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Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:42 PM

Call me a cynic but the next question is did Clinton people view Bernie Sanders data?

The shit has hit the fan over Bernie Sanders' staffers viewing of Clinton information in the now infamous data breach at NGP VAN. First of all, former Sanders' National data Director Josh Uretsky said, “We didn’t use [the data] for anything valuable and we didn’t take custodianship of it.” Tempting as that might have been, my second point is, just how revealing was the data they looked at? In other words, did they see something that could have brought down the Clinton campaign, or was it just general info like who voted, for whom etc.?

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a close friend and staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton, has been screaming bad boy, bad boy to the high heavens, when, in fact, she has neither confirmed nor denied whether Clinton's team were also bad guys and looked at Bernie's data. And the whole data breach incident is about as suspicious as it can get occurring just before tonight's debate.

In keeping with that thought, it is very interesting that one of the NGP VAN founders, Nathaniel Pearlman, also served as chief technology officer for Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential campaign.
I don't want to scream conspiracy--I just did didn't I?--but the Democratic Party has tried to ostracize Bernie Sanders from this race since the beginning, just because he is an Independent. That, when he has always caucused with the Dems. Independents are here to stay but right now the Democratic Party, namely Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her DNC are on trial. We have not heard the last of this.

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Reply Call me a cynic but the next question is did Clinton people view Bernie Sanders data? (Original post)
Nasty Jack Dec 2015 OP
merrily Dec 2015 #1
stillwaiting Dec 2015 #6
MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #12
merrily Dec 2015 #13
MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #14
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #2
appalachiablue Dec 2015 #3
TheProgressive Dec 2015 #4
Proserpina Dec 2015 #5
Doctor_J Dec 2015 #7
MisterP Dec 2015 #9
RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #8
ViseGrip Dec 2015 #10
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #11
in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #15

Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:46 PM

1. We will never ever know.

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Response to merrily (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:22 PM

6. Paging Anonymous. nt

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Response to merrily (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:59 PM

12. I believe we COULD know with an independent audit..

... and I heard Hillary agree to having one last night!

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:07 PM

13. I'm not sure what evidence the vendor can or can't do away with if it chooses.

I know they are able to get stuff off her wiped server, but this is not going to be the combined forces of the American government doing the investigation. This is going to be a civilian who may charge by the hour.

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Response to merrily (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:21 PM

14. Do we know who that independent auditor is?

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 06:46 PM

2. Could they have hidden/deleted any evidence of having looked at Sanders' data

while the Sanders campaign was locked out? We may never know.

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:00 PM

3. After this incident I hope Sanders and even O'Malley arrange

to use alternative data companies for their campaigns no matter what it takes. Since the DNC is not holding the IT security vendor to account, data security breaches and other problems might continue and that's a waste of everyone's time and energy.

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:21 PM

4. Knowing the antics of Clinton and DWS...

 

...of course the Clinton campaign looked at both Sanders and MOM data.
But unlike Sanders, Clinton was the instigator/conspirator of this entire hit job on Sanders.

This is my opinion, but we'll never know because the DNC' data is private data, owned by the DNC.
They 100% control everything going on here.

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:21 PM

5. Why else would the firewall be behaving like the curtain at a peep show?

 

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 07:36 PM

7. You're not allowed to ask that

 

Because that would mean you hate women!

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:11 AM

9. "womyn!" you privileged manspreader!

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:12 PM

8. I've been saying this all day!

 

And what if the Clinton staff did the same thing? Would they admit to it, or wait to get caught.
Another question to ask is whether or not we are seeing the entire logfiles, or just a slimmed down sample that only shows the actions of the Sanders campaign.

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:43 AM

10. BINGO! Is this why the frrewall was opened more than once, or was it usually open and

 

Sanders didn't realize it? Or after Sanders discovered it the FIRST TIME IN OCTOBER, and contacted the DNC, did the DNC then set him up? The investigation will yield the emails as well.

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:52 PM

11. Indeed, the big story is that the data was not secure

NGP VAN has ties to the 2008 Clinton campaign. DWS and the DNC clearly favor Clinton. The story is not that the Sanders staffers walked through an open door. The story is that THE DOOR WAS OPEN!

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Response to Nasty Jack (Original post)

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:46 PM

15. I'm sure they have. If there really is an INDEPENDENT invetigation of what happened, the files ARE

ALL TRACEABLE. I THINK - if NGP VAN tried to scrub them from HRH's computers, they can still be found. At least that's my non-techie read of the situation.

If I'm wrong, please correct me!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

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