I have seen a Sea Change on DU--Overnight, it seems

[Proserpina]

I've seen several threads where Hillarians are actually thinking, and their preconceptions challenged, and I think this will make a huge difference in the coming weeks.

Look at the discussions (and it's actually Discussion!) at the following Threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251952278

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251954089

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=954992

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=954952



There's less of the hit-and-run guerrilla warfare, and more about the underlying assumptions of one's world view, than I've seen ever...

It's consensus building at its most basic level: discussion of what makes a democratic Democratic Party, what and who the President works for, and similar unifying agreements that were not permitted to be raised earlier in this campaign.

I want to congratulate and thank each and every one of you Bernistas for continuing to press the issues, and I want to praise every Hillarian who is starting to listen. Because the ultimate function of politics is listening to people, and solving problems.

And we have had too little of that for too long.

[Faux pas]

1. Kickin'

[JackInGreen]

2. K&R

anyone engaging in the game of 'we will never speak to them because they're EVIL' has fallen for the bait laid by republicans in poisoning education and allowing consolidated corporate control of media from the then to the now. This is what they want, for us never to try, to be so hurt and hateful that we can't think to stand against the edifice they've raised against us, they've bricked part of that bulwark with our fellow citizens, and all some of us can think to do is hate them back.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

3. I'd like to see a sea change on Twitter to match.

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Lots of folks trying to start up a meme that he won't talk about Tamir Rice since the non-indictment of his killer, but he already has again in comments on Rachel Maddow Show last night.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/bernie-sanders-wants-federal-probe-of-tamir-rice-case-we-need-to-take-a-hard-look-at-police-use-of-force/

Yes, he could have brought it up earlier in the day, in his rally, but let's face it, where does he have a MUCH larger audience? One rally or national TV?

ETA: ok, at least some of it is just that his response was 'too tepid', and not that he wasn't responding at all. And I can certainly grant that, but I don't imagine anyone else will respond any better. I think it's wishful thinking to think that Hillary can be pushed into dealing with racial issues any better than Sanders can.

[Fawke Em]

6. Asking for a federal probe is "tepid?"

I assume the people saying this have never been around a federal probe. I've never been the target of one, thankfully, but once the feds are involved, they'll rip the department apart.

Look what they do when they're investigating someone just for a security clearance.

[ybbor]

4. I read through the first two links...

I did not see any discussion of substance there. There are the usual subjects spouting off, but no real dialogue except a bit of "I know you are but what am I" going on. Are the last two more insightful?

I wish that they could defend their candidate with more than "because, that's why!" rhetoric. It may be there and I am just not seeing it.

[Divernan]

5. 1st & 4th links - same old snark! Was the OP sarcasm?

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

8. Must be sarcasm

I just see an elevated level of "Damn Bernie if he does, and damn him if he doesn't" posts from the Hillarians.

[PowerToThePeople]

7. I guess I missed it.

[HerbChestnut]

9. I'm glad you've noticed this

Because I just swept through GDP and saw threads calling Bernie a liar, a thief, and a hippie draft dodger. You can guess what candidate's supporters posted those threads.

[draa]

10. You haven't seen anything yet.

As the primary season moves on, and they realize their candidate will likely lose, again, it will only get worse. 2007/2008 proved what Clinton and her supporters are capable of. Just read about some of the Obama smears and you'll see what I mean.

Dirty politics is the only way Clinton can win. And even then she probably won't.

[SandersDem]

11. Just remember

there are many people reading these threads in GDP that don't post and they can see some of the non-responses, question evasions, refusing to be open to any rational thought or spew talking points.

These people are being won over to Bernie every day.

To anybody that can stomach GD P and engage without heavily, I commend you.

[Ghost Dog]

12. !

... listening to people, and solving problems.

Big Problems.