Massive Backlash to the Planned Parenthood Endorsement of HC

[SandersDem]

http://samuel-warde.com/2016/01/massive-online-backlash-after-planned-parenthood-endorses-hillary-clinton/

Clinton supporters were thrilled; however, they appear to be in the minority if you look at comments on social media. After visiting the Planned Parenthood Action page and reading the comments about the endorsement, I found the people who were weighing in on the endorsement were expressing their disappointment, and the overwhelming majority of these folks were Bernie Sanders supporters.

Several commenters said they’re pulling donations from Planned Parenthood and giving them to Bernie Sanders because universal healthcare (which he is promoting) would remove the need for PP’s services
One commenter on Rock The Slut Vote’s Facebook page wrote:

“Bank phones clogged all night with people cancelling donations. I’m not kidding. This was an absurd mistake on their part. Took me 47 minutes to get my bank to cancel my monthly donation and the tired rep said “yes..pp? You and half the world..”

Many are posting a Breitbart.com article pointing out that the daughter of PP’s president, Lily Adams is Hillary Clinton’s Iowa communications director. (Breitbart is a conservative site but the information about Lily Adams is true.)
more at the link....

I do not celebrate this...I find it sad that they endorsed for the first time in 100 years and are hurting themselves.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

1. I will say again - very stupid move

sad

[Bubzer]

98. Very sad. They've served so well for so long.

I was especially struck by this part of the article though:

Several commenters said they’re pulling donations from Planned Parenthood and giving them to Bernie Sanders because universal healthcare (which he is promoting) would remove the need for PP’s services

I hadn't thought about it before, but except for a handful of services, this is largely true.

[rhett o rick]

137. Looking for an email addy for them. nm

[Shrike47]

2. They alienated a large group of donors and potential donors for nothing. Stupid.

[dreamnightwind]

3. If Hillary's primary opponent was anti-PP, it would be ok

but given Bernie's positions, huge mistake, political favoritism that disrespects the varied opinions of PP's supporters.

More political hardball that serves nobody but Hillary. Expecting a lot more of the same.

[liberalnarb]

68. Thats what I said!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251981660

^

[dreamnightwind]

86. Cool, went over there and rec'd it for ya.

[roguevalley]

95. obviously hrc is going for quantity but that isn't votes, its framing. she will lose votes this way

[artislife]

124. It is her trend line

Her MO that people reject along with her stand on issues. It is what makes her feel a bit slimy, hard to pin down. Sometimes I imagine her and her circle of advisors brain storming the exact limit to pushing the boundaries she can get away with.

It is a trait that most people find distasteful about lawyers, how can they win the case with no regard whether they are in the right. ( I love most lawyers, they have fought on the side of good and have helped millions of people, then there are those who haven't)

[delrem]

101. exactly.

$ can be insidious.
There really has to be an accounting across the board when things get this bad -- so *obvious*.

[retrowire]

4. Oh dear... nt

[MisterP]

5. wanna bet they didn't ask any members, as usual?

PP knows Clinton will retaliate and Sanders not, so from the perspective of someone working with a party it's a sure shot

[emsimon33]

7. "Clinton will retaliate"--sure says a lot about Clinton and why I am for Bernie

[GoneFishin]

93. Her campaign is all about capturing the gatekeepers and power brokers, not the hearts and minds

of the base by promoting populist policies.

[peace13]

102. +100

So funny because while I support PP financially and philosophically I don't want them involved in a political primary, no matter who they choose.

[GoneFishin]

111. Yep. It's an unfortunate move for PP.

[tblue37]

103. But they could have simply stayed neutral until the GE. This was an unforced error. nt

[MissDeeds]

113. Exactly n/t

[Proserpina]

114. Then PP should have skipped the endorsement--like they have EVERY OTHER TIME

[emsimon33]

6. It was a terrible move as they were already under attack from the right

They sure lost my support. Single payer is the way to go and Bernie is the one pushing for single payer.

[Bubzer]

99. Single payer may mean no need for PP

[lark]

122. So, basically fuck all young women with no means to pay for contraception.

Because PP isn't perfect, let the young girls get pregnant with no place or way to get help because they don't have insurance or live in a state with no free clinics near them. Glad to see that some grand idea is worth more than real people's lives. Yes, I totally support Single Payer, but how likely is it to become law? About the same time that pigs fly. Repugs and some DINOS will not vote for this so it won't become law, no matter who's president. Yes, someday I hope the RW loses power and we can get this through, but that day isn't now or in the next few years. yet you sacrifice these young women due to your political pique. For shame!!

FYI - I too am a Bernie supporter, but care more about real life consequences than I do about political perfection. I relied on PP as a teen for birth control when no dr. would prescribe that in my southern town in the 70's. They have the same mission today and I hate to think of the consequences of the right and the left ganging up on them. Sorry, defunding PP is just wrong, whether it's done by RW or LW zealots.

[Fawke Em]

135. Then PP shouldn't have endorsed in a primary.

They shot those young indigent women in the foot by doing something they've never, ever done: endorse in a primary.

The fault is on them and not the people pulling their donations.

That's the real life consequence. Planned Parenthood played politics with peoples' lives.

Sad.

[smokey nj]

145. Exactly!!

[Skidmore]

8. If you give half a damn about women's health care and women's issues,

this is not the way to show it. Cancelling donations to PP makes less women's health services available to low income women. Very disappointing.

[SandersDem]

10. however...

I would like to point out that if Bernie Sanders wins, he supports universal healthcare which would be even better for low income women as it would help them across the board.

And yes I agree with you, people canceling PP donations over their endorsement is too bad, but it is their right. Planned Parenthood failed to consider that they could lose support by endorsing, something they DO NOT DO...well until now.

NARAL, different story, they are a lobbying group first and should endorse. I view as a lot of people do that PP is a health organization first, not a lobbyist. Major failure in judgement at PP.

[passiveporcupine]

20. buthow long would it take to implement universal covrage?

I would like to point out that if Bernie Sanders wins, he supports universal healthcare which would be even better for low income women as it would help them across the board.

And in the mean time, you are cutting donations for immediate needs. I don't agree with this at all. PP is doing very good work and the more money they have to work with the more people they can help. You are only hurting the women and men who need their services now.

[Bubzer]

100. "you are cutting donations for immediate needs" - not quite.

Even if you drop most private donations, PP is operating on well over a billion dollars per year.

Immediate needs will not be impacted.

[passiveporcupine]

128. That doesn't sound like a lot considering how many people they serve

And the republicans are constantly trying to cut government funds to them.

If we get single payer (and I say if, not when, because there is no guarantee we will win this in my lifetime) it is still going to take years of battling to get there. We first have to change the numbers in congress so we have democratic control again.

The services PP provides to our communities everywhere are absolutely necessary. Not something to play politics with (unfortunately the Repubs keep doing that).

[Bubzer]

149. It may not sound like a lot of money, but it is. Especially for a non profit serving pulic interest.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/9313/9611/7194/Planned_Parenthood_By_The_Numbers.pdf

Their expenses are $1,152,200,000 per year. There are roughly 4.6 million people getting services through PP which is about the standard non-marked-up cost of an office visit and generic meds. Most of those are referred to affiliate services which then recoup roughly 70% for the cost through Medicaid (part of the federal funding).

Medicaid alone helps to ensure PP is compensated commiserate with costs. Grants, Corporate donors, donations from other organizations and non profits, and additional federal dollars cover the remaining 30% funding gap. Private donations (you and me) are the proverbial icing on the cake.

Federal funding isn't a set amount...it's a sliding scale that adjusts with usage of PP services. Short of congressional intervention on funding, private donations literally have zero impact on PP's ability to deliver services.

[passiveporcupine]

150. You really should quote the part of your post that is directly from the link

Because looking at that link, I don't see your opinions represented there.

[Bubzer]

152. You can pull up the 2014 annual report to get the break out of their expenditures.

I'd link it, but I'm having some trouble with the link.

*on edit* Problem resolved. Here's the link: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/6714/1996/2641/2013-2014_Annual_Report_FINAL_WEB_VERSION.pdf

[passiveporcupine]

153. Sorry, but you are going to have to give me something better

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than a 28 page PDF file that so far is not showing any use of dollars (not even in the TOC).

[Bubzer]

155. Didn't you see the table of contents is on page 3?

Never mind... just go to page 19 and read from there. You'll get all kinds of pertinent details.

[kacekwl]

127. Another reason they should stay

neutral like they have in the past.

[passiveporcupine]

129. So should everyone stay neutral?

What if they had supported Bernie? Would you still feel they should "stay neutral"?

You know, I'm for Bernie, wholeheartedly, and wish they had decided to back him instead. But I am not going to punish them financially (I will be happy to punish them verbally) for supporting a dem candidate. Now if they had come out for a republican, knowing the republicans have been trying to cut their funding, that might be a different story. Because then I'd know they don't care about the people they serve. But Hillary is not going to try to cut funding for PP.

[smokey nj]

146. Don't you get that they've NEVER endorsed in a primary before?

Why is this year different than previous years? Yes, they should have remained neutral.

[floriduck]

38. I would rather they keep the

donations flowing to PP. It will impact the poorer patients. I'm not sure if there is another effective way to drive the point home that the endorsement was a major fail. But it should be considered.

[hay rick]

74. This is their own Komen moment.

The first-ever pre-primary endorsement was extraordinarily arrogant on the part of leadership. The fact that their mission supports a worthwhile cause does not indemnify them for their actions in the political arena. They have insulted a significant portion of their donor base. Their options will be a) withdraw the endorsement, b) fire the responsible individuals, or c) cry over the reduced donations.

[nashville_brook]

115. well said.

[unapatriciated]

81. I have to agree

I do not understand why PP decided to endorse any candidate (they have not done this in previous elections) but to pull donations is wrong. I hope someone brings this to Sanders attention so that he can address this (I will be sending an e-mail). I'm a Sanders supporter but in no way will I pull my support for PP over this and will still be voting for Sanders in the primary.

[Enthusiast]

104. "they have not done this in previous elections"

[rhett o rick]

130. Very disappointing that PP had to get political. I bet HRC campaign put the pressure

on them. The leadership should be shown the door.

[grasswire]

9. they should stay out of politics period nt

[passiveporcupine]

21. Dont' be such an idealogue that you let your actions hurt people in need now

just think about it, please!

[Fawke Em]

138. It's Planned Parenthood who has acted irresponsibilty, not the people

pulling their donations!

PP should have stayed neutral until the general election. THEY did this to themselves and are hurting poor women in the process.

It's unfortunate they chose this path.

You can't honestly blame people for pulling their donations if they don't support Clinton and think their money might go towards helping her beat their preferred candidates, can you? Whether it would or not, many don't want to take that chance.

[passiveporcupine]

139. and think their money might go towards helping her beat their preferred candidates

OK, this is a consideration that I was not aware of. Just did some googling on it. If your donations go toward the PP action fund that is endorsing Hillary...meaning your money is funding Hillary's campaign, then I totally understand withholding those donations. But if you don't also send a letter/e-mail/phone call to PP telling them you are withholding funds and why, I'm not sure the point is as strong as it could be.

Please back up your actions with notice to PP of what and why you are doing what you are doing.

[central scrutinizer]

11. Donated $300 to PP, $750 to Bernie

Didn't feel any conflict at all. Support those who are doing what you want done.

[SandersDem]

16. this is the best response right here, central has it right :)

[Duppers]

25. Excellent.

I'm still disappointed in PP but I'll continue to donate.

[bvf]

29. +1.

[jwirr]

57. ^^^THIS^^^ But I am kind of thrilled about this. If PP

which we all support is hit this bad imagine what is going on with donations to the DNC.

Bernie supporters will not abandon PP permanently. But they are making their feelings felt.

[Jack Rabbit]

12. I'll forgive Planned Parenthood anything

Even endorsing an exponent of failed neoliberal policies for president.

[rhett o rick]

131. The organization but not the leadership. They showed bad judgement. I bet they were

pressured by the HRC campaign. The exact thing we are fighting.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. It was one of the dumbest moves PP could make when all three Democratic Candidates are

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Pro-Choice and Bernie has a 100% Naral rating! Dumb, idiotic, stupid, ignorant and extremely short-sighted move. PP is under attack from the right and needs every damn penny they can get. I hope the endorsement was because it was bought and paid for because they are going to suffer consequences for this. Surely the Clinton machine is going to fund them and replace their losses? I sure hope it was for money because they just cut off their nose to spite their face. Beyond dumb move.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[840high]

26. yep

[jomin41]

117. "Short-sighted"

[in_cog_ni_to]

119. ...

I knew that - I was a licensed Optician for 20+ years. Sometimes I type without thinking, especially when mad. Thanks for pointing that out.

[zentrum]

14. Agreed.

They shouldn't have endorsed anyone until after the primary.

[Marie Marie]

87. ^^ This^^

[Attorney in Texas]

15. I'm redirecting my financial support directly to candidates who support Planned Parenthood. We need

to support Planned Parenthood's cause, but we don't need to support those who are currently mismanaging Planned Parenthood down this poorly chosen pathway.

[TheProgressive]

17. 'because universal healthcare (which he is promoting) would remove the need for PP’s services'

I would argue that universal single-payer healthcare would require more
of PP services. They are a leader in Women's Healthcare, so, naturally,
the demand for their services would increase.

[Mc Mike]

107. Good point. Thanks.

[andrewv1]

18. Huge mistake on their part....Cecile Richards is definitely no Ann Richards

Very Sad & hopefully they rescind that endorsement.....

Which it has already been said, but why make more controversy when you already have some to deal with already?

It does look like DWS is getting some competition.

[Akamai]

142. I was thinking, why doesn't PP also endorse Bernie and Martin, but...

It probably would be wiser for PP to not endorse any candidate. I wonder how many Righties would object to family members going to PP with this recent endorsement. This is an unnecessary complication.

[BlueJazz]

19. I have a strong desire to stop my donations but probably will not.

[passiveporcupine]

23. Thank you

You are making the right and the humane choice. Many Bernie supporters are making me very sad in this thread. Choosing a political action over the needs of real people. The very people you say you want to protect.

[jeff47]

27. Choosing a political action instead of the needs of real people...like PP just did?

There's a good reason they did not endorse before now.

[BlueJazz]

45. My pleasure

[davidpdx]

90. Planned Parenthood was the one that choose political over needs

not Sanders supporters. People that donate to PP have to right to donate or not donate whenever they please. Sending a message to PP that they fucked up not only by making an endorsement before one vote occurred, but also when they are under attack from the right-wing smear machine. They should be working on keeping clinics open and retaining the funding they get from the government for services that are not related to abortion which they need badly instead of playing pompom cheerleader for Hillary Clinton.


Disclosure: I have donated to PP, but not anytime recently so obviously my opinion effects them in no way. I have benefited from PP services 20 years ago when I had a vasectomy.

[Duval]

22. Dumb move! nt

[williesgirl]

24. I cancelled my monthly donation too. Why would they stick their nose

In the primary? I agree w another poster who suggested Hillary and Bill will more than cover PP's losses.

[JimDandy]

35. Yep... Planned Parenthood bought and paid for by Clinton now.

Hope she can take up the entire slack. PP put politics before the huge needs of their clients with this endorsement.

Let's make sure we get Bernie in and Universal Health Care/Single Payer going so we never again have to be concerned about a health org putting politics before patients again.

GO BERNIE!

[Arkana]

65. You're going to need 70 Democratic Senators and about 300 big L Liberals

in the House before you get anything remotely resembling single payer.

Can Bernie Sanders will that into existence?

[questionseverything]

73. half the country that is eligible to vote does not vote

in theory we have the power to change both the house and the senate on bernie's coattails

i say in theory because we have not actually counted the vote for decades

http://www.bradblog.com/

[rhett o rick]

133. It's a high goal, but worth fighting for considering the alternative. nm

[Ford_Prefect]

28. Stunningly stupid move on the part of PP. Right up there with DWS dumping on younger women.

I don't know who's writing the game book at HRC central but they really have no clue. It's not about collecting the labels, it's about who does the real work and who has actually been hurt by all the triangulation. The cognitive dissonance is deafening.

[azmom]

83. +100000

[AlbertCat]

30. the daughter of PP’s president, Lily Adams is Hillary Clinton’s Iowa communications director.

Why does this not surprise me?

With DWS... and the relationships that "data stealing" thing exposed...nepotism seems to be business as usual.

[SheilaT]

31. Wow.

This shows how very strong the support for Bernie is, and how weak the support for Hillary.

[EdwardBernays]

32. It's not just her daughter

Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the group’s federal political action committee, gave $8,000 to Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, and $1,837 to her presidential committee in the 2008 cycle, records show. Many of Planned Parenthood’s PAC biggest donors are also longtime Clinton donors, some of whom supported the Ready For Hillary PAC as early as 2013, and have maxed out with $2,700 contributions to her primary campaign this year.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-planned-parenthood-ties-120794#ixzz3whnUjnLY

[marksda]

33. Universal Health Care, or PP Jobs?

That's the real question....

[Trajan]

34. A mistake as big as ... Susan Komen? ...

I think yes ... PP's Facebook page has been on fire ... 99% pro Bernie ... Many extremely disappointed PP supporters ...

Huge blunder ...

[peacebird]

110. That was my first thought as well....

[passiveporcupine]

36. Just remember

if you are withholding donations to PP to make them pay for this mistake, it's not so much PP you are hurting, as the people who need their services and had nothing to do with their endorsement.

Please think about that and make your decision based on adult reasoning,not immature ideological impulse.

[smokey nj]

37. Planned Parenthood hurt the people who need their services.

[passiveporcupine]

39. Sorry, you cannot absolve your responsibility for your actions that way

No matter how much you want to.

[smokey nj]

42. You don't get to tell people what to do with their money.

This endorsement was unnecessary and they should have expected the backlash.

[passiveporcupine]

51. Freedom of speech means I can tell you what I think of the way you spend your money.

I cannot force you to follow my advice.

And if you want to ignore everything I said about why your choice of punishment of PP is wrong, that's on you.

[smokey nj]

54. I'm as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours and I think you are wrong.

I'm not the one castigating people all over this thread for expressing their opinion.

[passiveporcupine]

55. I'd rather be blamed for castigating people that for denying the needy the help they seek.

[smokey nj]

58. I haven't denied anybody anything.

[passiveporcupine]

59. If you are not withholding funds from PP because of them backing Clinton

Then why are we even talking? I'm not talking about you.

[roguevalley]

97. I won't donate until they get out of politics. I didn't hear the sniffles about komen.

Pp is an ass.

[passiveporcupine]

136. Really? Comparing Komen to PP?

At Susan G. Komen, our mission is pretty simple: to save lives and end breast cancer forever. How we do it…well, that’s a bit more complex. We educate, support research, offer grants that provide financial and emotional assistance and advocate for better breast cancer policy. But in a broader sense, we empower others, ensure quality care for all, and invest in science to find the cures.

Planned Parenthood is one of the nation's leading providers of high-quality, affordable health care for women, men, and young people, and the nation's largest provider of sex education.

We're not talking apples and oranges here.

[roguevalley]

147. when they do quid pro quo and step into politics without a care what it means to their

purpose, then they lose the right to have it both ways. Each of them decided to put politics ahead of their mission. Neither group gave a SHIT about their mission. Now everyone who is ANGRY about it and JUSTIFIABLY is getting their ass kicked because they did what they did. They have NO business making politics their purpose over the real reason they exist. They did so jeopardizing their missions. Fuck this shit.

[questionseverything]

61. when pp endorsed hc they are denying the 30 million of us left out of the aca, our care

where was their compassion for us?

i will always support the women that need pp but this is another case of the people at the top trying to decide for all of us

i am tired of that

[passiveporcupine]

66. I Understand why this is upsetting for you,

but actually they are not denying the people left out of the ACA because they will still provide services for those people with no insurance, as they always have. The may be slowing down the process of us hopefully changing to a universal system. I agree.

This is not like choosing not to shop at Michael's because of their religious nuttery. You won't hurt their customers much if they go out of business because of your protest. They will find another craft store. But if you put PP out of business because you withdraw your donations because of an ideological difference, you are hurting every one of the needy young men and women who would have been able to get help from them because of your donations. They don't have insurance and they have no other "store" to shop at to get those services.

Think about that. PLEASE!

[questionseverything]

71. older people have to pay 3 times as much to be insured under the aca

they can not afford it

should they go to pp when they have heart attacks?

30 million of us still don't have a "store" at all

the executives @ pp really did not think this through

ms richards decided to go against the 99%

it is what it is

[passiveporcupine]

76. I agree there are some serious problems with the ACA

It is a stepping stone to Universal Care and Hillary used to be for Universal care but now seems to be siding with for-profit insurance. I am as upset about that as you are. I agree PP's decision to endorse her is dismaying. They may be under the same disillusionment as many Hillary supporters. They may feel Sanders cannot win the general and are hedging their bets.

What matters now is that PP does not control what or how ACA works. PP does a lot of good for a lot of people whom right now cannot afford ACA. Unfortunately, seniors are not on their list of problems they address. Family planning, Pregnancy and abortions, std's and aids and cancer are. I can't tell you that donating to PP will help seniors. it won't. But it will still help a lot of young people who really need that help. Are you willing to toss that help out the window out of pique just because your cause is not on the list? I'm not. We need to keep working for Universal care and it will happen. I don't know when, but I'm more encouraged since Bernie got in the race. And PP's endorsement of Clinton does not mean she will win. Not at all.

We need to just keep working toward the important goals. Keep up the spirit and keep fighting for Bernie. If he wins the primary I'm pretty sure PP will switch to allegiance for him in the general. A lot of people will when they realize that he really does have a chance to win.

[passiveporcupine]

125. I am not castigating anyone for expressing their opinion

I'm trying to explain why withholding donations (as much of a feel good as it might be) in this case is not hurting PP, but patients who need services instead.

[eggplant]

78. That's why I send my money to http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

Because the right to abortion is meaningless if you can't afford one.

[smokey nj]

79. Planned Parenthood isn't the only game in town.

[progressoid]

96. Thanks for that link.

[mountain grammy]

40. A mistake, in my opinion

But I will continue to support PP. I was just writing a check for my first donation of 2016 but will include a note expressing my dissatisfaction.

[WillyT]

41. Yikes...

[fredamae]

43. As pissed as I am about this unfortunate

move....we Must continue to support the people they help. To pull donations is hurting the client not the corp...nor the candidate. I highly doubt they will pull their endorsement no matter. It's too late for that.
I wish they'd have waited until after "we" decided and then put full force behind the winner....
But, again...what does it say about "us" if we take action that ultimately hurts those who are helped most by this org.
We can't allow our good hearts to be clouded by politics, imo.
PP made an incredibly STUPID decision, that's for sure...

[Duckfan]

44. I went directly to their website and unsubscribed from their action list after the

...announcement was posted here on DU.

[Uncle Joe]

46. I'm not familiar with this particular incident

To snub Sanders when he stood behind PP, when HRC threw PP under the bus with the video incident….disgusting. HRC voted for the Iraq war, which drove many women and children into the sex trade…how is that championing for women’s rights??

You’ve lost another follower. I vote with my mind, not my vagina, and I would love to see a woman POTUS, but not a Clinton.”

I know about the video but how did Hillary throw Planned Parenthood under the bus?

Thanks for the thread, SandersDem

[stupidicus]

47. unsurprising but an interesting angle

which might explain why they prefer HC's "market based" insurance plan improvements, whatever they are

a survival endorsement

[eggplant]

48. Looking for an alternate place to send your PP money? http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

Because the right to abortion is meaningless if you can't afford one.

[smokey nj]

49. Thank you for this link.

[eggplant]

50. I like NNAF because they point you to funds local to *you* that you may never have heard of.

And their fundraisers are a hoot. They do an annual bowl-a-thon, for example.

Their money doesn't go to lobbying, etc. It is all for helping women with immediate needs now.

[smokey nj]

52. This is great.

[Autumn]

53. By endorsing they made themselves a political organization.

I find it sad also.

[smokey nj]

56. Indeed. They unnecessarily hurt the people who need them.

[Autumn]

60. They have always stood above the fray and Democrats have always stood by them.

They screwed up this time. This is a slap in the face to Democrats who support a different Democratic candidate. Hillary is not the nominee.

[davidpdx]

91. That is the point those in this thread are missing

PP has pretty much declared that they think Hillary Clinton will be the nominee even before a single vote is cast.

The other is that for every Sanders supporter who cancels their donation, they'll probably get two more Clinton supporters to donate. My guess is on a funding basis they will bank some money off the announcement.

If I were a donor and withheld my donation, I would not be worried a bit about their funding.

[marlakay]

62. They should have stayed out of it

I have always supported them, don't agree with what they are doing, but it looks like a cash strapped organization is going to take a hit.

[AllyCat]

63. I will still donate to them, but am disappointed

Them and my Union. Bummed out.

[madfloridian]

64. The connections go very deep. Clinton Global Initiative works closely with them.

Considering both candidates are very strong on women's rights...they would have been better off not endorsing.

http://jackpineradicals.org/entry.php?152-Clinton-s-Planned-Parenthood-ties-run-deep-A-little-obvious-for-1st-endorsement

[Plucketeer]

67. I've supporterd them for years

They most certainly had the ability to ASK their supporters for their thoughts and opinions. But they get big - figure they have all the answers and walk right over their base. Dumb. Just plain dumb.

[truebrit71]

69. This would have made sense AFTER the primary...

But this move appears to be short-sighted.

[winter is coming]

77. Which begs the question of why it was done.

Someone wanted that endorsement now. Apparently, folks aren't feeling very secure over in Camp Weathervane.

[Indepatriot]

70. MASSIVE FAIL on PP's part. They will pay for it....

[liberalnarb]

72. I knew this would happen.

My biggest concern was how bad this endorsement would be to Planned Parenthood. Why estrange large groups of people who were otherwise completely on your side. It is a complete travesty. This will be most detrimental to the organization. If they had endorsed Bernie or O'Malley it would suck. An endorsement before the General is a god awful idea.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251981660

[onecaliberal]

75. I cancelled my monthly donation because PP didn't care enough to even poll us.

I like what Susan Sarandon said.
I have started voting with my money, this is another instance.

[mahina]

80. I will always support PP and wish they had stayed out of it.

Why would they do that?? Lolos.

[Akamai]

140. bakatadi's too!

And I always will support PP too!

I do wonder whether the Clinton Camp gave any thought to the downside of this endorsement -- maybe the Pope would step in and give one of them a nod.

[mahina]

144. :)

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[Bernblu]

82. I think Hillary is desperate.

So she has PP endorsing her and Bill coming out to campaign. I think this will hurt PP more than it will help Hillary. The people who would be influenced by PP would be in Hillary's camp anyway. They have chosen to tie their brand to her campaign. What a dangerous thing to do for an organization that depends on widespread public support. Unbelievable. Perhaps, they want to raise money on Wall Street.

[davidpdx]

92. It could be with her fall in the polls and PP's being wacked at by the right-wingers

That they decided it was of mutual benefit to change the story for both her campaign and PP. It could take the air out of other bad news for both organizations and give them positive stories to push.

I don't know this for sure, but it's a guess.

[smokey nj]

85. Buh-bye!

[blackspade]

88. Endorsing any candidate was a poor political decision.

And all this is happening prior to the Sunday 'official' endorsement.
Not only did PP er in this case, but the Clinton person that made this decision fucked up bad.

[Akamai]

141. Yup! My view too. Like asking your child (as I used to do humorously), "Who do you love more? Me or

mom?" They always came through with a good answer, "I love both of you!"

As I would tell them, if they said they loved me more, then they weren't paying attention to all the things that their mom did for them.

But the endorsement is rather like that question I used to ask, and it's a question that shouldn't be asked or answered.

[Thespian2]

89. Excellent Post...

[840high]

94. Someone posted this today...

"Hillary Clinton Hires Daughter of Planned Parenthood's Chief" [View all]

[Enthusiast]

105. What a bone headed move!

[mnhtnbb]

106. It was a really dumb move.

[djean111]

108. I think most of the angst from Hillary supporters over any backlash is because they (astoundingly)

still think endorsements and gender should be the reason we all should support Hillary. While slapping down the gender card on anyone who criticizes her or DWS. Amazing blind spot or disconnect.

Full disclosure - if Elizabeth Warren endorsed Hillary tomorrow, I would be disappointed, and would still wholeheartedly support Bernie.

[senz]

156. If Warren endorsed Hillary tomorrow, I'd think she'd lost her mind.

Either that or Hillary had something on her, something major.

Hillary represents nearly everything Elizabeth Warren opposes.

[peacebird]

109. Interesting. They shot themselves in the foot with this one.

[dorkzilla]

112. Deleting comment...

because i just figured out that PP runs a (separate from PP) PAC.

Still disturbs me that they did this. Maybe after the primary has been settled, but now?? Dumb move.

[NCjack]

116. Reminds me when AARP got cozy with GW Bush and the Repubs. AARP is still paying for that. /nt

[CrispyQ]

118. I disagree with their endorsement, especially since they've never done this before,

but I will never pull my support for Planned Parenthood.

[Geronimoe]

120. I'll side with the nurses for Bernie

and single payer system.

[lark]

121. Seriously, you quote a group called "Rock the Sluts' Vote"?

Why not quote Drudge?

If people cancelled donations to PP, they aren't true supporters of women's healthcare at all. Yes, Bernie wants universal healthcare, but how's he going to get it through congress? Won't happen and we all know it. It's a lovely and important idea, but the RW is totally opposed and they are still the majority in both houses of congress. Almost no one thinks Dems will overtake R's in the House. So, in effect, these people are voting with their pocketbooks to end reproductive help for women with no insurance because of a political disagreement. For total shame!!!!

[Fawke Em]

143. Why would I want my donations to possibly go to a candidate I don't support?

I tried to find a breakdown on where donations go and couldn't find it, but at least some of it goes toward the political action arm of PP.

If I support Bernie and can't stand Clinton, why would I want any of my money to go to her?

The total shame is that PP endorsed someone in the primary when they absolutely didn't have to. THEY are hurting people with this endorsement, not the people pulling their donations.

PP should have anticipated this.

[weknowvino2]

123. PP just lost me

[fbc]

126. Sounds like someone has been promised a job in a Clinton administration

[rhett o rick]

134. This is exactly the kind of bullcrap we are fighting. The PP leadership needs to be fired. nm

[senz]

157. They seem to corrupt every single thing they touch.

[Fawke Em]

132. Looks like they didn't learn about backlashes after Susan G. Koman

withdrew funding from them.

You'd think they'd know better than to endorse in a primary.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[joshcryer]

148. Extraordinary ratfuck.

That the right wing could hit a Planned Parenthood from the left is incredible. That the left could fall for it is beyond comprehension.

[djean111]

158. No, the ratfuck is that the Third Way types think the left can be manipulated into supporting

Hillary, even though they are opposed to many of her policies, because of endorsements.

[Android3.14]

151. What a bonehead move

This only reveals how much people dislike Clinton and harms an important organization in the process.

[Autumn]

154. Kick.