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Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:33 PM

 

Commentary on Charlie Rose tonight...

Charlie had 3 pundits/reporters on and they were very frank on Bernie's and Hillary's chances.

None were gushing over Clinton. Their comments seemed fairly supportive of Senator Sanders.

One did point out a scenario where Clinton goes negative by painting Bernie as a big bad socialist.

Go for it...

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Reply Commentary on Charlie Rose tonight... (Original post)
R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 OP
Dretownblues Jan 2016 #1
1000words Jan 2016 #2
840high Jan 2016 #3
1000words Jan 2016 #5
winter is coming Jan 2016 #4
Skwmom Jan 2016 #6
YOHABLO Jan 2016 #8
scottie55 Jan 2016 #7
SaintLouisBlues Jan 2016 #9

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:36 PM

1. any links

Id love to watch it.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:53 PM

3. I keep wondering what

 

she'll come up with next.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:55 PM

4. The biggest challenge there is that Sanders isn't ashamed of who he is.

Most of the time, when one politician attacks another, it's for something they did that they hoped no one would notice. Their first reaction is usually to deny and equivocate, and it's often the weasel-worded answers that do them in. If nothing else, the protracted denials keep whatever "it" is in the spotlight for several news cycles and call into question the politician's trustworthiness on other issues.

Just the other night, Jorge Ramos was trying hard to get Sanders to say that his vote against the Brady Bill was an error. He asked him that question three or four times, even though Bernie's immediate response was a flat no, followed by an explanation that it was a complicated bill. IMO, he was hoping to get Bernie to give some sort of weaselly answer he could later be attacked on.

So, yeah, people are going to try to paint Sanders as a scary socialist, but he's not going to apologize for being a democratic socialist. Despite hyperbolic and unproven "but he says he's a socialist, and people won't vote for an admitted socialist" assertions, I think that most Dems and unaffiliateds under the age of 60 (and some over) aren't going to be scared off by him. They might not vote for him in the primary, but they'll give him a fair audience.

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Response to winter is coming (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:36 AM

6. Ramos was like a dog with a bone. This also happened with the Netroot's interviewer.


I think they wanted to give Clinton a talking point at the behest of the Clinton campaign.

Jorge's daughter works for Clinton. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/jorge-ramos-paola-hillary-trump/2015/08/26/id/671974/

Clinton is a perverted capitalist. We help fund businesses (for example supplementing Walmart's low wages) and guarantee their losses (which she wants to expand to the biotechs). This is a perverted, socialist, corrupt form of capitalism.

By the way - Clinton's pals in the corporate media and the corporate Republicans are already pushing Bernie is a socialist.

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Response to Skwmom (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:35 AM

8. They're counting on the stupidity of Americans who don't know what Democratic

 

Socialism really is, and that we're already a Democratic Socialist county now.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:42 AM

7. Hillary Can't Go Negative

 

Going negative will hurt your favorability, and hopefully hurt your opponent more.

Hillary can't lose any favorability. Already too many people don't like her.

Hillary has to wait for Bernie to screw up, which he may do, then she can attack.

They already found out what happens when you simply lie about Bernie, and I doubt they will do that again.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:35 AM

9. But, but, Charlie declared the democratic primary "settled" earlier this month

Reality is a bitch, ain't it Chuck. Mr. Conventional Wisdom wrong again.

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