Another 15 second Biden clip is doing the rounds on social media

[Otto Lidenbrock]

Link to tweet

"OMG Biden hates millennials!"

Someone posted a longer clip to add some much needed context.

Link to tweet

It's going to a real problem for Joe if this is going to keep happening.

[JI7]

1. not really

[redstateblues]

2. I doubt it

[LuvLoogie]

3. You concerned, Bro?

[Otto Lidenbrock]

6. I'm not a Bernie supporter

If I were I wouldn't have posted the full clip.

The point is anti-Biden stuff is getting numbers out of context which is why I made this thread.

[still_one]

10. It has been coming out in force since David Sirota, Nina Turner, and Briahna Joy Gray were hired as

part of the Sanders campaign

It will also be coming out against all the candidates, including Sanders by domestic and foreign influences who they feel threaten trump the most

[VMA131Marine]

4. I don't see a problem

He's spot on!

[Demit]

5. Kent state, 17 kids shot dead??

[OKNancy]

7. Four shot and killed HOWEVER!! this thought came to me too

I was going to write the same thing.

It annoys me when some young people poo-poo what we did and our struggles.
Civil rights, women's rights, protests, our leaders assassinated.. It was heart-breaking and scary.

[Dennis Donovan]

12. ...and those events happened before "social media".

...so, they didn't have the benefit of instant communication, to show the side of the protesters and victims.

[Demit]

13. What's scary to me at this moment is where he got that number from.

I mean, Four Dead In Ohio. If he was as politically aware in the sixties as he's saying he was...where did he get that number??

And I grew up in that time too. In amongst the turmoil of the time, I was able to go to college without graduating with a mountain of debt. I don't know what the larger discussion was about, that this clip is from, but that is one ENORMOUS difference between me and kids now. Unlike Joe Biden, I have a HUGE amount of empathy for kids today.

[OKNancy]

16. I don't know if I do

I've been substitute teaching at high schools. Not just public low income, but also private "rich" schools.
I'm not writing a long-assed post about the problems I've seen with attitudes and demeanor, but I'm sure many can guess.

I'll add it's not ALL the kids. There are a few who warm my heart.

[treestar]

27. 13 total casualties - 9 non-fatally shot

Maybe what he was getting at and still not right.

He's talking about the opportunities for women, the freedom since then. Of course he does not care about college debt, he even supported making it harder to bankrupt! If asked directly, he might understand that as a problem. Context was not including that.

We do have it a lot better - my generation was the next one and no one questioned women going into business, careers, and they were starting to be in leadership and now it has improved immensely. Despite the Dotard, it is now frowned upon to be a racist, homophobe and so on. His minions are the minority.

[Honeycombe8]

38. As an over-60 female, I am dismayed when young women don't realize how far we've come.

The opportunities available to women when I was young - today's young women would be shocked to hear it, if they even believed it. Especially if a woman lived in the deep south.

The hatred and vitriol that was directed at women who wanted the right to be engineers, scientists, or whatever field they wanted to work in, was mind boggling. The attitude that women should be paid less because they were worth less was widespread. Middle aged men could demand their wives not work, stay at home, have kids, cook & clean house. Then could leave her in their middle aged years, and complain if he had to pay alimony. Alimony was because she had no skills or experience to earn a decent income on her own. He walked away with everything: the income, the job, most of the job benefits, the friends.

I don't understand young women who don't vote. They don't realize how quickly women and other minorities could be relegated to second class again. Look at the restrictions being imposed on abortion rights, voting rights, etc.

[OKNancy]

39. I started my own business at age 26. I was told to get a credit card, my husband had to sign

I made more money than he did!!! I pitched a fit and went to the President of the bank who just happened to be in a business club with me. I got the card.

[treestar]

25. I notice that too and that means he does not know the CSN song very well

which will harm his disastrously with baby boomers like himself!!!!

[Demit]

32. He also says people didn't talk to one another over the war. Huh?

The war was on tv every night. The news showed actual battle footage and talked casualties. Kids were dreading turning 18 and getting drafted. I had friends sign up for the reserves instead. I don't know what's going on in his head as he's saying these things, but they sure don't come out right.

[still_one]

8. This is why I will NEVER vote for Bernie in the primaries, and this...................

Sanders hired three people to his campaign who not only voted for Jill Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise

David Sirota said this up until the day before the election in his deleted tweets.

https://www.democraticunderground.org/128730834#post3

briahna joy gray worked for Glenn Greenwald's intercept, and pushed that garbage, but unlike Sirota, she didn't erase all her tweets:

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Nina Turner:

https://www.insidesources.com/nina-turner-coming-new-hampshire/

This is why Sanders is NOT on my list for primary candidates. As far as I am concerned he hopes to gain the nomination by dividing Democrats, and I don't want that in a candidate for the primaries


All other candidates have my potential vote in the primaries.

Currently, I favor Biden and Harris, and have donated to both their campaigns, but there are others who I also view favorably

I appreciate your concern Otto. Oh, welcome to DU by the way...…………..

The fact is every candidate is going to be coming out by foreign and domestic attack lists, especially the one's they believe are the most threat against trump

[oasis]

9. +1

[Dennis Donovan]

14. They voted for Stein because they believed HRC would win...

...and lodged a protest vote against the status quo. I'm VERY sure that, if they believed their vote would result in a Trump presidency, they would've voted for Clinton. To believe otherwise is total Monday-morning quarterbacking.

I was a Bernie supporter who, like the vast number of Bernie supporters, voted for HRC in the GE.

[still_one]

20. Nope, and by them encouraging others to do likewise confirms what their intentions were

90% of Sanders supporters voted for the Democratic nominee, but 10% wanted Hillary to lose, and sirota, Turner, and Banks were part of that 10%

[Dennis Donovan]

22. Yep, what I said was true...

Where are you getting your numbers from?

[LongtimeAZDem]

24. Stupidity is no excuse

And, I disagree. Every Stein voter I saw online said nonsense like "Clinton didn't 'earn' my vote".

[MrsCoffee]

45. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anyone who actively campaigned against the Democratic presidential candidate in 2016 has ZERO place on the 2020 Democratic stage.

To believe otherwise is total denial.

[George II]

18. On top of that we have Cornell West and Susan Sarandon now warming up on the sidelines.

[ucrdem]

11. This will only be a problem for those looking to be offended.

And they will never openly support Biden anyway.

p.s. I predicted a daily drip but I wasn't expecting them to work weekends!

[nolabear]

15. If you hear all of it, it's a wonderful call to "arms."

And a reminder that we older people who are being relegated to some dust bin were the ones who often literally fought for the rights the younger people are defiantly tweeting and media-ing about now.

I love the real, proactive younger generations, but they are making a huge mistake acting as though their rights always existed or came from nowhere. We can teach them if they’d just ask.

[Demit]

21. I watched the 2nd clip in the OP. Is there a longer version that shows the whole interview?

Like, who the interviewer is, what the venue was...I'd like to get the fuller context.

[ucrdem]

26. Interviewer is Patt Morisson, so probably in LA around Nov. 2017

Looks like Biden's book tour from the pile on the table. Probably a local PBS show.

[Demit]

34. Thanks! I gather his book was about his family and public service.

The event was something called "Ideas Exchange" a series the LA Times sponsored. I couldn't find a longer clip though.

[ucrdem]

36. Yes exactly, a kind of memoir-tribute

It's about the last year of his son's life and came out just before Christmas. I sent it to a few relatives who probably immediately regifted it LOL

[emmaverybo]

41. This book was well loved

I have read some of it, but mainly reviews on different sites which attest to the comfort the book gives to those in grief and the respect accorded Biden for his rich life in public service. I do plan to read it and hope other Biden supporters do too.

[nolabear]

31. Don't know. Probably.

[emmaverybo]

40. Generations before fought a war and stopped it, among other contributions

True, Vietnam combat vets have not, statistically, been long-lived. Those who survived were as a group far more productive than myths perpetuated about them suggested. Many returned to fight against the war along with civilians, and as numbers swelled, the public outcry changed policy. As well, before then, many young people took great risks to join the civil rights movement in the field in the South and on campuses across the U.S.
Old women today were yesterday’s Trail Blazers in all phases of the movement towards equality.
It is an utter shame that older voices are discounted and that while most other forms of discrimination are censured, ageism is almost proudly declared on this forum and others.
Fortunately, a large percentage of actually young people do not dismiss their older fellow liberals; rather, it seems those years out from college tend to.
No, the most significant changes in our political, social, and economic landscape did not emerge yesterday.
Most important, if we are to preserve and build on these changes, it will take uniting together to do it. That means all constituencies, all voting communities.

[Otto Lidenbrock]

17. Watch and Share this video on social media if you are a Biden supporter

Likewise, Biden made waves in 1986 when he angrily confronted Secretary of State George Shultz about Reagan’s passive approach to ending apartheid in South Africa. After noting the administration’s policy not to have “favorites” in South African politics, Biden exploded: “Dammit! We have favorites in South Africa. The favorites in South Africa are the people who are being repressed by that ugly white regime.” A month later, the Senate passed a bill applying economic sanctions on South Africa, and Congress would override Reagan’s veto of it.

[treestar]

29. He sounds like a modern day Bernie fan there!

Full of passion, too. If his 40 year old sins are to be discussed, his 40 year old good deeds should too!

[OKNancy]

19. You are right. I just went to read twitter and there is/was a long thread

It looks like Shaun King posted the clip @shaunking

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. Anyone who thinks millennials and Gen Zers need to be called to action is not paying attention.

[ehrnst]

28. Looks like somebody is very threatened by Joe's numbers in the polls.

The alliances of those who are spreading these might reveal a lot...

[underthematrix]

30. Poor Russia. They're working so hard to keep that criminal

in the White House. He wasn't elected the first time around and now Russia expects America to give up their constitutional representative democracy for that piece of trash. Not gonna happen.

We've got 22 candidates running for the nomination and one of them will win it and we'll win the White House.

[peggysue2]

33. I've said from the start . . .

that Joe Biden had a target on his back because he is the threat to the political aspirations of the Left and the Right. He will be bombarded, particularly after this past week's polling.

That will be Biden's challenge to deflect the slings and arrows and get his message across.

As for the first selectively cropped video, it's obviously meant to paint Biden in the worst possible light. Open the video up and it could, in fact, be used as a campaign ad.

His team and supporters will need to be watchful because this is only the beginning. The important thing is to swat these faux attacks down as soon as possible in the manner that Alpaca De Guerra does. Nate Silver is correct--much of what the Left & Right are churning at the moment is not having the desired effect. If anything, the attacks have boosted Biden's numbers.

A Go4Joe/2020

[marylandblue]

35. That's fine with me. If he can swat away attacks, he can beat Trump.

IMO, That's a more important qualification than experience or perceived electability.

[peggysue2]

37. Agree, up to a point

Yes, he must be able to deflect the attacks to beat Trump. But Biden must also be able to gore the Trumpster where he lives, make him bleed votes and support. Personally, I think Joe Biden is perfectly capable of doing both while offering solid qualifications and readiness for the job.

A GO4JOE/2020

[highplainsdem]

47. Do you have a direct link to their first use of that deceptively edited clip?

[NYMinute]

43. kick nt

[Autumn]

44. I would rather have a president who has empathy in 2020. nt

[helpisontheway]

46. Probably spread by Sanders..nt