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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Towlie

(5,308 posts)
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:26 AM May 2019

I just switched from "undecided" to Kamala Harris.

Someday a woman will be president, and I figure it's about that time.

I think Speaker Pelosi is correct with her “Own the center left, own the mainstream” advice, and among the top woman candidates that rules out Elizabeth Warren, whose platform may or may not be desirable, but the Robin Hood-like idea to rob from the rich and give to the poor seems unlikely to sell and is probably unrealistic. That leaves Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is my first choice and Amy Klobuchar is my second.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I just switched from "undecided" to Kamala Harris. (Original Post) Towlie May 2019 OP
I like her but not ready to switch yet katmondoo May 2019 #1
I like Kamala Harris for VP. democratisphere May 2019 #2
I like Joe Biden for VP, again. uawchild May 2019 #6
Biden SOS in that scenario aeromanKC May 2019 #26
No way DownriverDem May 2019 #28
Don't think Beatleman May 2019 #32
Harris is way to smart to be VP, better as Atty General if not the nominee. Merlot May 2019 #9
Yeah, and are there sexists overtones to it? uawchild May 2019 #13
I've noticed that as well. Merlot May 2019 #17
"I think when it comes down to it, Biden would be most likely to pick a man for VP." uawchild May 2019 #19
Assume Biden is POTUS, he will be 82 for re-election. bronxiteforever May 2019 #31
We need DownriverDem May 2019 #29
So did I. Just this morning. I will absolutely vote for the candidate though. onecaliberal May 2019 #3
i like amy and kamala both... samnsara May 2019 #4
congratulations! uawchild May 2019 #5
Seeing Booker next to Harris gave rise to my fantasy ticket: Harris/Booker Merlot May 2019 #16
My subliminal campaign is working! lol uawchild May 2019 #18
No one suggested a POC president and white VP? namahage May 2019 #21
Beating trump DownriverDem May 2019 #30
EW's idea is to "rob from the rich"? theaocp May 2019 #7
That actually made me laugh a little. Framing, indeed! Merlot May 2019 #10
+1. It's the rich who have been doing all the robbing dalton99a May 2019 #15
That's not how I choose to characterize it, it's how I fear it will be characterized. Towlie May 2019 #24
You should edit your OP, if that's the case. theaocp May 2019 #25
i might switch back soon. she really is my first choice, but mopinko May 2019 #8
I know what you mean. They are both so good. Merlot May 2019 #14
All of our Democratic candidates are impressive. NNadir May 2019 #11
This ... BlueMTexpat May 2019 #35
Warren's wealth tax is analogous to the property tax you pay when you own a home. Demit May 2019 #12
I think that the country is ready for a liberal candidate. bloom May 2019 #20
Robin Hood is much more popular than the Sherriff of Nottingham. Just saying. marylandblue May 2019 #22
Good choice! MoonRiver May 2019 #23
Good for you! lapucelle May 2019 #27
I'm still torn between BlueMTexpat May 2019 #33
You really can't go wrong with any of the candidates. Kaleva May 2019 #34
you ain't the only one - both great choices! rurallib May 2019 #36
I just did the same yesterday NastyRiffraff May 2019 #37
 

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
1. I like her but not ready to switch yet
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. I like Kamala Harris for VP.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:33 AM
May 2019

Kamala Harris is very impressive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
6. I like Joe Biden for VP, again.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:39 AM
May 2019

Joe Biden is very impressive.

If Harris is our nominee, would Biden agree to be on a Harris-Biden ticket for the good of the party?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aeromanKC

(3,307 posts)
26. Biden SOS in that scenario
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:18 PM
May 2019

With Buttigieg VP

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,206 posts)
28. No way
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:33 PM
May 2019

Biden/Harris would be a formidable ticket? We have never had a woman VP. Harris would then be positioned to become president next.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Beatleman

(29 posts)
32. Don't think
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:42 PM
May 2019

Joe would go along with that.
However the other way around may work on voters,,,,or if He gets the bid,,,it could be none running,,,a real stunner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
9. Harris is way to smart to be VP, better as Atty General if not the nominee.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:47 AM
May 2019

Biden needs Harris more than Harris needs Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
13. Yeah, and are there sexists overtones to it?
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:53 AM
May 2019

is it just me or is there something a little off about supporters of male candidates always suggesting that a woman candidate would make a good VP for their guy?

It's why I raised the point about why not a Harris-Biden ticket.

Has any male candidate's supporters been suggesting any other male candidates as their VP preference?

Hmmm?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. I've noticed that as well.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:00 PM
May 2019

Some are so quick to assign a female candidate the VP slot. VP is a consolation prize and is not a sure ticket to the presidency in 8 years. Harris, Warren and Klobichar are also doing fantastic work in the senate - do we want our brightes people wasting away their days in the VP office?

I think when it comes down to it, Biden would be most likely to pick a man for VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
19. "I think when it comes down to it, Biden would be most likely to pick a man for VP."
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:09 PM
May 2019

Well, based on the posts from Biden supporters on DU, if those are any indication, Biden's supporters at least want Harris as VP.

Sorta a "get the old band back together" thing I think. lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
31. Assume Biden is POTUS, he will be 82 for re-election.
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:40 PM
May 2019

His VP would have a stronger than usual chance to be POTUS. Since he made age 75 his life expectancy is 86. This would be the last year of his presidency.

“...if you make it to 75 your life expectancy increases to 86.8.”
https://www.verywellhealth.com/understanding-life-expectancy-2223950

I think this VP pick would be way outside the norm and not a consolation prize. I agree with you, that it may not be a sure ticket to POTUS but there is plenty that can go wrong with the health of 80 year olds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,206 posts)
29. We need
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:34 PM
May 2019

Biden more than you know. Biden/Harris would be a winning ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onecaliberal

(32,486 posts)
3. So did I. Just this morning. I will absolutely vote for the candidate though.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,570 posts)
4. i like amy and kamala both...
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:35 AM
May 2019

..i didnt get it when they had the 5 hr town hall and no one liked Amy.. i thought she came off very well

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
5. congratulations!
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:36 AM
May 2019

Harris is an excellent candidate and in my bettting pool is the front runner to get the nomination. She should excel in the debates, she certainly did when she was grilling Atty General Barr at the hearing last week.

Watch Harris grill Barr during Senate hearing: 'It’s clear you have not looked at the evidence'



As a Cory Booker supporter, I applaud her efforts for criminal justice reform, I hope she pursues that further.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
16. Seeing Booker next to Harris gave rise to my fantasy ticket: Harris/Booker
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:55 AM
May 2019

But that leaves out Warren! So many good choices!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
18. My subliminal campaign is working! lol
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:07 PM
May 2019

Hey, someday, I hope, America will be ready for a Harris/Booker type presidential ticket. Right now, not so much. I have actually suggested a Harris/Booker ticket to friends and they, all democrats, told me that there was no way two African Americans could win.

Also, sadly, they kept suggesting tickets with a minority candidate as VP for a white presidential candidate saying it would "balance" the ticket, yet not one suggested the opposite pairing with a minority candidate as president and a white VP.

Change is coming, it's just not here yet I guess.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

namahage

(1,157 posts)
21. No one suggested a POC president and white VP?
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:19 PM
May 2019

Why not? Did they not remember 2008?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,206 posts)
30. Beating trump
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:36 PM
May 2019

is all that matters. Biden/Harris is the ticket that can win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

theaocp

(4,223 posts)
7. EW's idea is to "rob from the rich"?
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:42 AM
May 2019

Talk about framing issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. That actually made me laugh a little. Framing, indeed!
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:48 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dalton99a

(81,068 posts)
15. +1. It's the rich who have been doing all the robbing
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:54 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Towlie

(5,308 posts)
24. That's not how I choose to characterize it, it's how I fear it will be characterized.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:50 PM
May 2019

I'm not framing issues, I'm predicting how issues will be framed. My position, like Speaker Pelosi's position, is based upon the need for a winning strategy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

theaocp

(4,223 posts)
25. You should edit your OP, if that's the case.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:57 PM
May 2019

I still disagree because you're leaving the framing up to the enemy. Go on the offense and frame what she's ACTUALLY doing instead of giving into the reich wing's potential framing. You can seriously do that with ANY candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
8. i might switch back soon. she really is my first choice, but
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:42 AM
May 2019

i had to give warren the props for calling for impeachment, and for having plans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
14. I know what you mean. They are both so good.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:54 AM
May 2019

Harris has a plan to increase teacher funding which I like. Warren is really great with not only having good plans but also communicating them in a very easy to distill style. I suspected the more people hear Warren, the more they will like her.

If Harris doesn't get the nod, I could also see her as Sec. of State. She would be good on the international stage. But please, please stop suggesting Harris for VP, that would be a waste of talent. And when was the last time a VP became a president: george bush back in the 80's.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NNadir

(33,368 posts)
11. All of our Democratic candidates are impressive.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:52 AM
May 2019

For the first time in my life, I really can't choose among them.

Each of them have something important to say, and each of them are accomplished.

I am, however, ABB, "Anyone but Bernie," in the primaries, and, like everyone else, ABT in the general.

Other than that, I can't think of any example in our field who would not represent a vast improvement over the National Troglodyte,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
35. This ...
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:57 PM
May 2019

definitely this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
12. Warren's wealth tax is analogous to the property tax you pay when you own a home.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:53 AM
May 2019

As she said in a town hall meeting,

"How many people here own a home? You've been paying a wealth tax for years. They just call it a property tax. I just want their tax to include the diamonds, the yachts, and the Rembrandts."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
20. I think that the country is ready for a liberal candidate.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:14 PM
May 2019

Pelosi is again trying to keep the party from going to the left - as she does.

The way I see it - is the people on the left are the ones more likely to go vote than those in the middle - many of whom don't care. If we run someone too milktoasty (like Biden), some on the left might figure he is too much like a Republican (I don't think that - but I know people who do).

I expect to stay with Warren. Harris is my 2nd choice. And I like the idea of Warren / Harris - because it gets both coasts involved. I think those 2 are the shining stars.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
22. Robin Hood is much more popular than the Sherriff of Nottingham. Just saying.
Sun May 5, 2019, 12:30 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,039 posts)
27. Good for you!
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:24 PM
May 2019

I'm with E Warren, but I have an open mind.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
33. I'm still torn between
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:49 PM
May 2019

Elizabeth and Kamala.

I will likely remain so until the first debate ... at least.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kaleva

(36,146 posts)
34. You really can't go wrong with any of the candidates.
Sun May 5, 2019, 01:53 PM
May 2019

There is a great field to choose from but I do hope you go with Kamala!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rurallib

(62,346 posts)
36. you ain't the only one - both great choices!
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:02 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. I just did the same yesterday
Sun May 5, 2019, 02:19 PM
May 2019

She's a smart, accomplished woman who has the experience and savvy to begin to heal the country. She's also a hard-nosed realist. The fact that she's a woman of color is a bonus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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