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Celerity

(42,645 posts)
Sat May 11, 2019, 04:35 PM May 2019

A broken clock is............The Intercept comes to Joe Biden's defense in l'affair Rudy in Ukraine.




A Republican Conspiracy Theory About a Biden-in-Ukraine Scandal Has Gone Mainstream. But It Is Not True.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/

VIRAL RUMORS that Joe Biden abused his power as vice president to protect his son’s business interests in Ukraine in 2016, which spread last week from the pro-Trump media ecosystem to The New York Times, are “absolute nonsense,” according to Ukraine’s leading anti-corruption activist. That evaluation is backed by foreign correspondents in Kiev and a former official with knowledge of Biden’s outreach to Ukraine after President Viktor Yanukovych was deposed in a popular uprising in 2014.

In an interview with The Intercept, Daria Kaleniuk, an American-educated lawyer who founded Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Action Center, expressed frustration that two recent front page stories in The New York Times, on how the conspiracy theory is being used to attack Biden, failed to properly debunk the false accusation. According to Kaleniuk, and a former anti-corruption prosecutor, there is simply no truth to the rumor now spreading like wildfire across the internet.

The accusation is that Biden blackmailed Ukraine’s new leaders into firing the country’s chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, to derail an investigation he was leading into a Ukrainian gas company that the vice president’s son, Hunter, was paid to advise.

The truth, Kaleniuk said, is that Shokin was forced from office at Biden’s urging because he had failed to conduct thorough investigations of corruption, and had stifled efforts to investigate embezzlement and misconduct by public officials following the 2014 uprising.

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they tear into the NYT's and its reporter Ken Vogel for spreading bullshit too

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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A broken clock is............The Intercept comes to Joe Biden's defense in l'affair Rudy in Ukraine. (Original Post) Celerity May 2019 OP
Finally.... Bloomberg had debunked this whole thing a long time ago. hlthe2b May 2019 #1
Wow.. that's Cha May 2019 #2
A momentary lapse of insanity. BannonsLiver May 2019 #3
Debunked is irrelevant to those who want to believe the worst. Hortensis May 2019 #4
It's interesting how this writer is blaming the NYTs for spreading bloom May 2019 #5
I'm shocked The Intercept has anything good to say about Biden. bluedigger May 2019 #6
 

hlthe2b

(101,713 posts)
1. Finally.... Bloomberg had debunked this whole thing a long time ago.
Sat May 11, 2019, 04:55 PM
May 2019

I sincerely hope that we don't see this crap continue (at least from those promulgating on the "Left&quot but, I'm a realist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
2. Wow.. that's
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:43 PM
May 2019

kinda shocking!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BannonsLiver

(16,161 posts)
3. A momentary lapse of insanity.
Sun May 12, 2019, 03:33 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Debunked is irrelevant to those who want to believe the worst.
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:41 AM
May 2019

Fact is, there is proven massive, institutionalized corruption among the kleptocrat players on one side, and on another other side was an energy company Biden's son was on the board of directors of and which was under attack by the first.

And on a third, U.S. government side, VP Biden had excellent, independent reason to responsibly hold up a massive infusion of American money until a corrupt official was removed.

It doesn't look good because of the intersection of interests, but pointing out that Biden's job and his son's company had intersecting interests at one point is all anyone avidly looking into this for 4 years has been able to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bloom

(11,635 posts)
5. It's interesting how this writer is blaming the NYTs for spreading
Sun May 12, 2019, 09:46 AM
May 2019

The false story - because the Intercept did also. Probably more so. I had had a post about it - which was removed.

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Undecided
 

bluedigger

(17,077 posts)
6. I'm shocked The Intercept has anything good to say about Biden.
Sun May 12, 2019, 02:06 PM
May 2019

All I see on my FB feed are anti-Biden Intercept stories.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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