Biden campaign confirms he supports controversial abortion rule: report

[demmiblue]

Joe Biden’s campaign confirmed that he still supports a controversial ban prohibiting the use of federal funds for certain abortion services.

Campaign aides told NBC News that the 2020 presidential hopeful still supports the Hyde Amendment, which has prevented government health programs like Medicaid from paying for abortions except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the woman.

Biden’s campaign did say that the former Vice President would be open to repealing the amendment if abortion access currently protected under Roe v. Wade was threatened.

The support appears to differ from what Biden told an American Civil Liberties Union volunteer when asked about the Hyde Amendment last month.

“It can’t stay,” he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/447023-biden-2020-campaign-confirms-he-supports-controversial-abortion-rule-report

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[JustAnotherGen]

1. I agree with him

I don't want anything to upset the apple cart in my state. Murphy, the Assembly, and the Senate are focused on expanding health care and protecting the right to abort in our state. I don't want 'regressives' in Mississippi having the tiniest sliver of opportunity to tell us what to do with our money.

We are nothing like them, never will be, they can come together with us in 2020 (they won't) -

But the Mississippi State flag will still not be flown in Liberty State Park.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. Do you agree with him when he says he supports it repealing it or when he says he doesn't?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. So which is it, Joe?

Harris, Gillibrand, Klobuchar and Warren are currently co-sponsoring legislation to block the Hyde Amendment, and several of them have explicitly said that repealing Hyde is part of their policy plans.

Sanders has called for the repeal of Hyde but has not signed on to current legislation, nor has Booker. O'Rourke has supported a similar House measure in the past and Buttigieg has spoken against Hyde.

[liskddksil]

3. Beto O'Rourke Opposes the Hyde Amendment

Repeal Hyde Amendment: The Hyde Amendment, which prohibits spending federal funds on abortion services, disproportionately impacts women of color and women in underserved communities. Any woman who gets her care or insurance through the federal government must be covered for all pregnancy-related care, including abortion.
https://betoorourke.com/choice/

[demmiblue]

5. Secretary Clinton highlighted the repeal of the amendment on the national stage during her campaign.

The 2016 platform marked the first time the Democratic platform had an explicit call to repeal the Hyde Amendment.[9] The platform states:

We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should have access to quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion—regardless of where she lives, how much money she makes, or how she is insured. We believe that reproductive health is core to women's, men's, and young people's health and well being. We will continue to stand up to Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood health centers, which provide critical health services to millions of people. We will continue to oppose—and seek to overturn—federal and state laws and policies that impede a woman's access to abortion, including by repealing the Hyde Amendment.[26]

Hillary Clinton advocated for a repeal of the Hyde Amendment throughout her 2016 Presidential campaign. She was quoted as saying, "Any right that requires you to take extraordinary measures to access it is no right at all" at a campaign rally in New Hampshire.[27] The Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Tim Kaine reportedly stood with his running mate on the issue, despite formerly having been a supporter of the Hyde Amendment.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment#Support_for_the_Amendment

Why Hillary Clinton’s Call-Out of the Hyde Amendment Is So Important

https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/01/why-hillary-clinton-s-call-out-of-the-hyde-amendment-is-so-important.html

[BeckyDem]

6. Biden would be wise to listen to Hillary.

"Any right that requires you to take extraordinary measures to access it is no right at all"

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. I loved her language around that.

[More_Cowbell]

24. Bernie's Medicare for All plan would repeal the Hyde Amendment

Maybe he'd rather do it as part of that legislation. I do think he should sign on to the current legislation.

[still_one]

8. There is a lot of absurd attacks on Biden lately, but this is not one of them, and is a show

stopper for me in my support for him.

This came from his campaign spokes people, and is counter to what he previously told the ACLU, so I will wait a day for this to clear up, but I am not too optimistic

This amendment is a direct attack against poor women.

I will give a day for before doing anything, but if his position stands on not repealing the Hyde Amendment, then my support will go to Harris, who I am already also donating to, or undecided.

I have also wrote to his campaign to ask for confirmation.

Waiting for a reply

[BannonsLiver]

9. If you're a single issue voter the support was probably not strong in the first place.

Single issue voters are the most volatile when it comes to how they end up voting on Election Day.

[still_one]

10. I am not a single issue voter, but this is an attack against poor women. I will

wait to hear from him directly for confirmation, but with the attacks to over turn Roe going on right now, and he comes out with this, it’s the sane in my view

I will see what happens in the next day. When you have NARL and PP for its repeal, he is on the wrong side

As to your accusation, it was strong, donated several hundred dollars to his campaign so far, and have been a strong defender of the lies and distortions made against him, but this is a big deal for me

[BannonsLiver]

11. If one issue sways your support you are in fact a single issue voter.

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Abortion seems to attract a lot of single issue voters on both sides of the political spectrum.

Also if you’re donating to multiple campaigns that’s generally not an indicator of strong support.

[wellst0nev0ter]

12. It's not a "single issue"

It's a red line, like racism. Our presidential candidate need to be held to some standard, or why have Democrats?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Well said.

[hurl]

14. Agreed

There are some positions that are just intrinsic to being Democratic. If a candidate took a position against marriage equality, I'd have to draw a line. I'm just glad we have a big field of wonderful alternatives.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

15. Thank you.

[LanternWaste]

16. That's not accurate. At all.

"If one issue sways your support you are in fact a single issue voter."

That's not accurate. At all.

But by all means... support the specious premise with evidence. I'd certainly be intrigued if nothing else. (or you can simply make an excuse why it's too difficult or bothersome to do so)

[BannonsLiver]

17. How would you define someone who bases their decision to vote for a candidate on one issue alone?

What phraseology would you use? Are they multi issue voters?

[jberryhill]

28. Okay, so are you a single issue voter when it comes to whether or not we should nuke Canada?

If a candidate said, "I intend to launch a nuclear attack on Canada the moment I am sworn in" then would you simply weigh that "nuke Canada" policy among the other positions held by that candidate?

Or, like any rational human, would you say "Oh, hell no, I'm not voting for him."

So, admit it, you are a single issue voter, and your single issue is whether or not to launch a nuclear attack on Canada. Amirite?

[BannonsLiver]

31. Are we at war with Canada?

How about an example that might be relevant and not some kooky fantasy scenario?

I'll give you one. Right now I'm leaning toward Warren. I'm doing that in spite of the fact i don't agree with her on reparations. Why? Because I'm not a single-issue voter.

[jberryhill]

35. Doesn't matter, does it?

Why should we wait for Canada to attack first?

Would you not vote for a candidate with an announced intention to nuke Canada?

[treestar]

40. Yes look at the single issue voters on the other side

Who voted for the Dotard on their opposition to abortion alone. And got 2 justices on the SCOTUS. Public funding is not the number one issue.

[Skya Rhen]

18. Isn't the Hyde Amendment existing law, already? Is this likely to be overturned by congress?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. It is existing law, which is renewed periodically. Biden supports it. Klobuchar, Harris,

Warren and Gillibrand have signed onto legislation that would repeal it.

[Skya Rhen]

20. Knowing congress, it's a long shot that this will ever be repealed.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. Joe Biden supports the provision that forbids using federal funds to pay for an abortion except

when the life of the pregnant person is at risk, or in cases of rape or incest. In the past, Biden, has also voted against allowing federal funds to pay for abortions in the cases of rape and incest.

This directly affects 1 in 5 people of childbearing age in the United States. It's a shitty policy, no matter who supports it.

[Skya Rhen]

22. I forgot to mention the role of SCOTUS which got two Republicans added as a result of the 2016

election. It's near impossible that they would ever rule to have this repealed. This being the case, Biden's stance on this issue does not hold much weight. The scale is unlikely to be tipped in the favor of the pro-appeal camp, so he should be allowed the right to stand by his belief, in this instance.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. I guess Biden's confidence in Republicans working with him as president goes only so far, eh?

The Democratic platform says the party will seek to repeal Hyde. Other major Democratic candidates say they would work to do so as well. Yeah, this stance doesn't hold much weight at all.

[Skya Rhen]

26. We can't have it both ways - the general consensus is that there will be no epiphany

regarding Republicans. No epiphany means that this will never be repealed - support from the other side will be required and most people believe that this will never happen. Am I not correct?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

30. You're working really hard to make Biden's position on Hyde a practical one. Why?

[Skya Rhen]

33. Believe it or not - not all Democrats hold the same views

and mine happens to be different than yours and many others, I am sure, on this one.

I disagree with Biden on one or two other things that he believes in (which happen to be very progressive) but I realize that everyone has a right to his/her belief and should not be made to feel guilty because of it...

[WhiskeyGrinder]

34. Legal abortion in general, or Hyde in particular?

[Skya Rhen]

39. We're specifically talking about the Hyde Amendment.

[Lordquinton]

38. He can stand by his belief, but he still has to bear the consequences

He's running for president, we're in the vetting stages where we find out what the candidates think, what their beliefs are. This is a disqualifier, it even goes against the party platform. This is a major issue, not some passive belief.

[treestar]

41. It is a pipe dream now

It is very far away. In fact, the right to choice itself may already be lost for the foreseeable future. Thanks to one issue voters on the other side. The last thing we need to worry about in a candidate. It's bad enough to be a one issue voter, but to make this sub issue matter when it is not likely to change is silly.

[More_Cowbell]

25. I hope someone asks Biden if he would veto a repeal of the Hyde amendment nt

[progressoid]

27. What the f...?

[RedParrot]

29. Can't trust a septuagenarian man to defend women's rights

The best way to protect women’s rights is by electing a woman President. We can’t depend on a male septuagenarian to do it.

[emmaverybo]

37. You do know there are anti-abortion women and young men? Your sweeping judgement about

age and gender does not hold up. Criticize Biden for his views on this, not all men and all people in their seventies. Those people fought for the rights women have today, right alongside women. Biden is one of them. Maybe read the VAWA.

[Voltaire2]

32. Disqualified.

Biden is unacceptable for this alone.

[RedParrot]

36. Anita Hill, Hyde Amendment, invading women's personal space

Our nominee should not be selected on the basis of nostalgia for a past that wasn’t that good to begin with.

We have far better candidates, such as Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, who don’t have the baggage has on women’s issues.

[Skya Rhen]

42. And the better candidate will win.