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Related: About this forumWatching Elizabeth Warren Come Alive
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/elizabeth-warren-and-the-women-who-love-her.html
Watching Elizabeth Warren Come Alive
After the heartbreak of 2016, shes making some women believe that a woman could actually win the presidency.
By Dahlia Lithwick
June 06, 20191:48 PM
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Do I worry that Elizabeth Warren isnt fantastic on the stump? I do. But Warren doesnt seem to care much about being loved. She cares a lot about explaining where things fell apart. So her campaign goes to tiny blue-collar towns in tiny red states she cannot hope to win, and she talks about opioid addiction with Trump supporters who have never met a presidential hopeful and may never meet one again. The labor here is about connecting the dots more than lighting crowds on fire.
Watching this play out on the trail, I couldnt help but think of an idea Rebecca Solnit recently explored in a piece about our possible newfound resistance to great men theories of governance. Solnit suggests that we may be finally tiring of:
What Solnit is holding out as the new ideal of leadership is not, by any stretch, exclusively female. But it is an idea less tethered to goose bumpy speeches, or the kind of charisma that leaves an audience thrilled yet unable to recall any idea actually expressed. Weve now elected two charismatics in a row to the presidency, and the model Warren is building, while not lacking in surface polish, surely doesnt coast on it. Her campaign is less TED talk than graduate seminar. And her students become evangelists of her big ideas more than evangelists of her.
I dont know whether Elizabeth Warren can win the Democratic primary. Im not yet certain a woman can win at all. A country that is OK prosecuting women who miscarry isnt really a country I recognize, much less one I can believe in. Worse, I shudder at the implication that Warren, the woman, will do all the grueling legwork of educating voters about corruption, and banking, and unions, and debt, so that some man in a glittering cape might swoop in and charm our socks off next summer.
Women are often told they react emotionally to candidates, while men are meant to admire and appreciate complex policy. Warren is disrupting that paradigm. She leans less on charisma or charm, or even emotion, than on that elaborate PowerPoint she keeps stowed in her head. Its a different approach from the men out in front of her. A warm and effusive Joe Biden has been coronated the favorite without having to break a sweat. Bernie Sanders has long had some of the most loyal supporters around, in part because he is so unabashedly himself.
But the women who come to these early Warren rallies like being addressed by an adult as adults. At a time when America has devalued teachers, empathy, expertise, and planning for the future, Elizabeth Warren serves as one reminder of what we have lost. It doesnt mean the voters will necessarily throng to her side. It just means that the women I spoke to, and more and more of the women I know, dont mind being educated about how everything went so terribly wrong in their political lifetimes. Elizabeth Warren can explain it, and has a plan for it, and believes she can fix it. Its not glittery, and it may not make your heart beat faster in a stadium. But in a world of noise and bluster, her clarity has its own sort of charm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,365 posts)every day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stage left
(2,961 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dchill
(38,449 posts)Been leaning her way for weeks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)She was dialed in.
I think shes great!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,351 posts)Lots of perspective on why Warren is resonating because of who she is and the moment were in.
Highly recommend.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rampartc
(5,388 posts)and it is not that she is not charismatic, but that she is a little wonky. but I like the policy, and we could use a little more consensus building. i'd be quite proud to live in ms warren's America.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)She's drawing boundary lines around what won't be compromised AND building consensus. She is also prepared with policy beyond all expectations and has a confident and accessible personal presentation.
Affable, easygoing wonkishness that doesn't intimidate listeners with technicalities and jargon is not easy to pull off when a person has been deeply focused on legislating.
But, she has risen out of her office into national politics with the strength of institutional knowledge and stronger capacity to translate it into a national platform than long-time congressional leaders (ie. Kerry, Gephardt, Gore, Dole, etc.) have had in the past.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
rampartc
(5,388 posts)but remember, if she becomes president or vice president we lose her senate seat to a republican appointee.
no president will be able to function without a dem senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)or that the special election that would follow would not return the seat to Democrats. Anything is possible- good or bad. I'm looking at the candidates and I really like what I see in Warren.
I would actually prefer a younger candidate as a practical consideration and am hoping one will break out and adopt some of the same skills and generate as much enthusiasm. She would be a great mentor to a younger candidate. As it stands now, she is my favorite candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Smart, articulate, and prepared. I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honeylady
(157 posts)She inspires me with her tremendous energy. She practically leaps onto the stage. I think she could rally a large crowd and get their enthusiasm way up. I really want to change from Mayor Pete to Elizabeth Warren but don't know how to do that here on DU. Can someone talk me through it?
thanks
BTW. I love Mayor Pete. I think he will make a great president 10 years from now. But right now I think we need Senator Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunatica
(53,410 posts)in the blue field where it shows the percentages for each candidate look over to the far right and click on the icon. It takes you to a page where you can change your preference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)The upcoming debates will be very interesting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,088 posts)Wikipedia:
"...won a debate scholarship to George Washington University (GWU) at the age of 16."
Can hardly wait. We haven't seen her in a debate yet. And she has a natural inclination not to trash others, but to stick to the subject.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
B Stieg
(2,410 posts)I think she's also one of few who has moved up in the national polls, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SunSeeker
(51,520 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)And every one of her policy proposals are airtight.
I hope she continues to rise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,488 posts)And she is here again. Perhaps the best synopsis of Warren and her campaign I have seen. The last highlighted line expresses what I love best about Warren. She is a perfect antidote to tRump and the hateful maga worldview.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zentrum
(9,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BigOleDummy
(2,268 posts)Warren fan .. forever it seems. Smart, up on the issues and by god this woman is a FIGHTER. She's not afraid of the repuglicans OR the current squatter in the WH. Warren/Buttigieg is my own personal "dream ticket". Can you just imagine them on the campaign trail? Bliss
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wildflowergardener
(911 posts)Several years ago I bought the audiobook all your worth. Listening to the book and to her really made me feel that my problems could be solved, and helped to simplify a complicated topic - budgeting. There is something about her way of speaking that makes me trust her, and believe she can help, and cares about me, even though she doesnt know me. I hear the same thing as she talks on different topics. Hopefully others will feel the same way as they hear her speak more. Just listening to that book would make me feel better when I was stressed about money. She had a plan to help me and it did.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)What am I saying?
Probably nobody on Earth can explain economic matters and how and why we are being screwed by whom and what needs to be done about it better than she.
I'd be thrilled to have her as our President and failing that, if America just stillisn't up to having a woman in that role, why she'd make a great Vice President as well. The only issue with making her President or VP is what's going to happen with her Senatorial seat and I admit I know nothing about Mass politics or if that would even be a problem.
That aside, Mayor Pete/'Liz Warren or visa versa works great for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uawchild
(2,208 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NBachers
(17,082 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
c-rational
(2,589 posts)Americans could see past the surface issues. I hear others voice concerns about her voice quality and physical presentation and I am dismayed. I wish we could move beyond that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)She has down home charm. Cinnamon charm. The charm of those who know the score and passionately want to show PRECISELY how the system is rigged against us. Biden doesn't really seem to get a lot of things and I've even had the opportunity to share info with his somewhat behind-the-times policy people. Warren has been doing her homework and is glad to share it. I TRUST her for all that.
And trust is the best personality trait of all. She totally has the personality thing nailed. She's trustworthy and best of all, she earns our trust. It's not a charade. She's got brains like Bill and Barack and Hillary but the working person's special intuition. She gets the rigged system in her gut, not just her head.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
c-rational
(2,589 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Trust is hard won, and she's got mine. That trustworthiness is the most critical component in a candidate's personality. All the style commentary is bunk. It's being pushed by Republicans, the least trustworthy can o' beans this side of the Rockies.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluewater
(5,376 posts)to actually join DU! I have been a long time reader, but decided that it was worth signing up just to say how much I respect Sen. Warren
I think she's exactly what we need in 2020
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden