Sanders will not be the nominee.. Warren is winning over that part of the

[Peacetrain]

Democratic primary/caucus voter.. She is on fire.. Unless something breaks loose on her.. she is making that part of the party her own..Sanders made one mistake that is hurting him here.. when he went back to being an Independent.. it has the primary/caucus voter not sure about where he actually is..

Biden is making his move on the center voters...The biggest threat to Biden on the more centrist liberals..is Buttigieg.. I thought for sure O'Rourke was going to be his biggest threat.. but it looks like Mayor Pete is..


Love Kamala Harris to pieces but she has to make up her mind where she wants to operate out of .. the left of the party or the center of the party..its a tough one..she has got the stuff to go all the way..


Got a Facebook notice from Booker and contributed to his campaign to make sure he gets on the stage..Booker for Supreme Court..He is a Rhodes Scholar.. he would be such a great supreme court judge..

The truth is, these candidates have to get through the primary/caucus voter before they move center stage for the general election.. and a week is a lifetime in politics as they say.. it could all be different a month from now.. wonder what the view from Iowa will be like the day after the debates??


That is the view from Iowa as of today.. June 6, 2019

[lapfog_1]

1. I only hope we don't start seeing more candidates eat our own

as the primary season gets into full swing.

We are already seeing a concerted effort to take Joe down a few notches...

[Peacetrain]

3. Yep..and that backfires every time

Honestly lapfog.. I think people will be a little more settled after the debates..

[Hortensis]

10. When have we ever heard Elizabeth Warren attack anyone?

She's too enthusiastically committed to explaining her plans to the electorate, and that commitment to making them happen is the big "secret" of her success.

"I have a plan for that!"

[Peacetrain]

25. If there are two things that come out of this election that will be a permanent part of

our daily dialogue from this point forward.. they are

1. When you need to get something done right now! you will say "I have a plan for that"

2. When you are really irritated with someone you will call them "a stable genius"

[Hortensis]

31. Lol. So true. Even I was inspired when I heard her say that,

and I avoid speechifying.

How long until a DUer is alerted for calling someone a stable genius?

[Peacetrain]

33. It will probably be an alert on me

I am saving that one up

[Hortensis]

35. I might beat you to it if I get too exasperated, but

it was your idea first.

[Hoyt]

29. She attacked the heck out of Obama's trade efforts, helping to elect trump.

Clinton got caught in the distortions of Sanders and Warren regarding trade.

[Cha]

51. Yeah, :(

[emmaverybo]

40. She just did. And she implied that Biden's not being for repeal of Hyde hurts low income

women who are victims of rape and incest, which is patently false. The Hyde amendment makes
an exception for rape and incest, well should she know.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/06/06/does-biden-have-wrong-position-anti-choice-hyde-amendment-warren-yes-its-been-wrong

[marylandblue]

44. I did a little thinking and research and she is right.

The Hyde Amendment means you must tell your doctor why you want an abortion. Many women are reluctant to do this. In all states, a doctor must report cases of child abuse, which will scare many incest victims off. In 14 states, the woman must report the incest or rape to the police, which most don't want to do. South Dakota openly violates the law and does not cover abortions for rape and incest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/politics/states-abortion-coverage-medicaid.html

Also, in researching for this post, I found that some informational sites either did not mention the rape/incest exemption or it was not clearly stated, which means victims may falsely believe Medicaid won't cover it and so may never even go to the clinic.

Warren is smarter than I thought, and I already thought she was pretty smart.

[emmaverybo]

46. You are stretching her perspicacity. She should have explained that then. Moot point now.

[marylandblue]

47. Yes, she could have explained it better. I didn't say she was perfect.

But anyway, I'm glad Biden changed his mind.

[Hortensis]

48. If you read this, you'll see she did not attack Biden,

though. Not as they reported it. She was asked and said she disagreed with Biden, but it was the Hyde amendment she attacked as she explained what was wrong about it and its effects. Very Warren. I love policy wonks.

Rachel said last night Biden's position on Hyde wouldn't last through the primary. Tonight she said she didn't realize it wouldn't last 24 hours. (!) So now he has an updated awareness. I think he was remiss, though, for not examining his 40-year-old vote on this yesterday when asked about it.
But he didn't, and I'm criticizing him specifically even if she didn't.

[emmaverybo]

49. I can accept the reporting gave the appearance of an attack she did not mean. nt

[Hortensis]

50. If he needed educating about it, her discussion

would have provided it. Maybe it did.

[cwydro]

52. She's won me over.

I really like her.

[dchill]

53. Warren is not eating or stealing...

She's WINNING.

[Cha]

2. I certainly hope not.

Thanks for your report from Iowa today!

[Peacetrain]

4. Hey Cha!!...

a take from the heartland..

[Cha]

5. I like your take..

Keep us posted!

[Peacetrain]

28. will do Cha.. will do

[Doreen]

6. I really think the candidates should center around what

they want to do and what they believe. They need to say they see things differently from the other candidates but not that they are wrong. They in a way need to be supportive of each other also because in the end one of them needs to become president to save our country from the free fall the current dictator and administration has put us into.

[Peacetrain]

8. Absolutely..

it never works (except for Trump and republicans who have this nasty habit of trying to completely demolish each other)

[Doreen]

16. The problem is that our Democrat candidates are doing it.

Look at what they are saying about each other about what one person or the other voted for in the past. They need to just shed light on themselves without damning the others.

[murielm99]

7. You live in Iowa?

I am not that far from you in Western Illinois. We have gone to Iowa to canvas in the past. I don't know if we will be doing that this year. I feel busy enough in this part of Illinois.

I went to a meeting yesterday that was a bit discouraging. It was for an Indivisible chapter, mostly long time activists. Many of them reported that friends and acquaintances know very little about the prospective candidates. Even some of the top tier candidates are unknown to them. These are people who are less political than us. We who work hard on GOTV IRL and post on DU should not be shocked by this. I know it is early, but we have work to do.

I am going to our JFK dinner this evening. It encompasses five counties in this part of Northern Illinois. Of course any Democrat is welcome. We have a former chair who comes every year who is from Freeport. He is outside our five county area, but represented by some of the same people. I am always happy to see him. I was pleased to meet several new people from his community at the ILDCCA brunch in Springfield last year. They were young men, just the people we need working at the local level. They were county board members.

I don't know who will show up for this. Usually, we have our state treasurer. He is faithful. We may get the governor, and almost certainly Cheri Bustos. Next year, the politicians and elected officials will be tripping over each other to meet the county level activists.

Keep up the good work over there.

[Peacetrain]

14. Have a wonderful time tonight

Muriel.. I know what you are talking about.. its because we have so many many candidates.. I have heard more than one complaint about that..its hard for people to sort them out.. I am hoping the debates focus people more.

[samnsara]

9. I see Kamela as AG!

...I do hope the next dem prez will utilize all the talent that has come forward. I dont want all our seats to be given up tho.

[Peacetrain]

15. I have posted more than once

probably to the point people are saying.. not that again.. but we have such a well of talent.. it needs to be utilized..

[lapfog_1]

23. and Pete Buttigieg

as Sec State...

and VP Elizabeth Warren or Stacey Abrams.

sorry... no Senators from purple states should be picked for cabinet spots

[brewens]

11. I am a liberal Democrat, a term I think should be redundant. I still don't get just why we say

progressive usually these days. I think I do get it actually, we let the right demonize the word liberal and now many on our side are afraid to use that word.

Since last election, I've been saying someone like Bernie, but not Bernie. Would he maybe have lost his Senate seat be going Democrat last time?

[Peacetrain]

17. You are signing to the choir there

I have always been a liberal..

[appalachiablue]

30. Agree, should be redundant.

[crazytown]

58. 'neoliberal'

that is the reason people are shying away from the term liberal

[rurallib]

12. I am hoping that whatever senators are not chosen to run for president

remain in the senate to help our new president fix things.

There will be some tough battles to fight in the senate for sure.

[Peacetrain]

18. We will need everybody...

As you can tell rural I am a Biden supporter..but what if he does not get the nod... he is still such a resource for who ever does.. we are going to need everyone.. all hands on deck to clean up the mess that Trump will leave.. and first things first.. debug the white house...

[rurallib]

19. Agreed - I just don't want to see a raid on the senate that will

weaken us there when we need some strength and experience.

[Peacetrain]

22. Very good point!!

[thesquanderer]

13. Reasonable perspectives, but...

...I think "Sanders made one mistake that is hurting him here.. when he went back to being an Independent" is an overblown issue. Outside of DU, I can't say I've met anyone who cares about this. At all. If he's on the Dem ballot, that means the actual Dem party accepts him as a Dem candidate, period. If it's good enough for the party, it should be good enough for the voters. If someone votes for him, or not, that won't be the reason. All this bickering here about whether he's a Dem reminds me of when sports fans argue about teams they're really invested in, or SF folks argue about Star Wars vs. Star Trek, etc. Ultimately meaningless to the greater population.

[Peacetrain]

20. As I said this is my view from Iowa.. and it may not be a big deal from where you are from

but it was a big hairy deal here.. and who knows maybe it is only here.. I have no way of knowing.. I do not know how he can get past Warren.. she is such a force.. truthfully the force he was last time.. but who knows.. everything could be completely different next week.. its that time of the political season..

[BannonsLiver]

21. Warren is better at being Bernie than Bernie is

That is what we’re seeing. Voters who are shifting their support to her and away from Bernie are doing so because she’s a better messenger by a wide margin.

[Peacetrain]

24. That is so true BannonsL!!

She is so strong..

[comradebillyboy]

42. That's because she is better than Bernie in every possible way.

[Gothmog]

61. I agree

[Hortensis]

26. Interesting view, thanks. Warren should be no surprise,

in retrospect anyway. It was she who, through her achievements and speeches, revealed the hidden strong desire among Democrats for strong liberal, progressive actions and solutions.

For years polling had completely failed to reveal that. (To the point now that I can't help wondering if some pollsters may have been involved in a plot to keep it unknown. There are plotters everywhere else after all.) If I hadn't known better, from the polling and analyses of those years I'd almost have thought I was the only one, instead of one of many millions.

But in any case, she ignited an eager Elizabeth Warren movement who practically begged her to run. When she didn't and left an Elizabeth Warren-size vacuum of demand, Bernie Sanders came out of obscurity to fill it. (And the rest of that is history.)

But now Warren IS running for president.

"I have a plan for that!"

[Peacetrain]

27. Oh my God, my husband loves her..

I left a post reply to a post above to you about I have a plan for that We are a two candidate house right now.. Hubby is definitely in the Warren camp and I am in the Biden camp.. and we still get in the same bed at night rofl..

[Hortensis]

32. And does he always have a plan, and are you always

willing to work with the other side?

[Peacetrain]

34. Well he is taking me out to dinner tomorrow..

now lets see if we can agree on where to go..

[Hortensis]

37. :) That might call for some research for inspiration.

There has to be a good joke in that, but all that's coming to mind is Warren's favorite pink sprinkles-covered doughnuts, and I only remember those because a little granddaughter loved them when she was going through her princess stage.

Enjoy.

[marylandblue]

43. Well I'm sure it's not a plot. I think these pollsters don't really get statistics.

Because one of the things I learned in statistics is that if you ask the wrong question, you'll get the wrong answer.

[Hortensis]

45. As you say, wrong questions, wrong results.

[redstateblues]

38. I like Mayor Pete a lot but unless he solves his diversity problem Super Tuesday will be brutal

[Peacetrain]

41. It time spent with the community

and trust built up over years.. and he may not be able to pull it all together now.. but definitely in the future.. he is young and he will get there.. the debate could help a lot..but again.. it time and exposure..

[SidDithers]

39. Good...nt

Sid

[democratisphere]

54. Joe Biden is and will continue to be the front runner as long as he doesn't

start trying to be all things to all people. Democratic centrist ideas will win Joe the election.

[highplainsdem]

55. I doubt either Sanders or Warren will be the nominee. One would have to step aside and throw all

their support to the other to have as much or more support than Biden.

I can't see either of them doing that.

[LibFarmer]

56. Sanders is done

His tired message of umpteen years is now boring and getting no traction whatsoever.

[Blue_true]

57. I have always viewed Harris as Left-center, with big emphasis on the Left part.

You are on target on Senator Warren. She took the early hit's but kept swinging. I like that she will go anywhere to talk to voters, even into red areas, we need our candidate to do that in 2020, those areas also contain a LOT of blue voters who could be key to changing a state electoral result if they feel engaged by the democratic candidate.

I believe that Senator Warren is eroding the Senator Sanders primary vote and will likely seal the deal once the debates start.

[Tarheel_Dem]

59. Thank Gawd!

[Gothmog]

60. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45 states