Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSerious question: If a Democratic President will not work with the GOP, what WILL they do?
How would that work? How would appointments, policies, day-to-day functioning of both the administration and the governance happen?
Would the new president throw down and insist that it's their way or the highway? Would they try to force and challenge and obstruct anything that is brought up by the Republicans?
I'm serious. What would happen? Not what did happen at some point in the last few years but now?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrToast
(6,414 posts)It's not that a Democratic President shouldn't be willing to work with Republicans. It's that Republicans will NEVER work with a Democratic President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,915 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,650 posts)If not, Republicans are going to block everything from Cabinet appointees to judges to bills. I dont know what we can do about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,915 posts)But if we do take the Senate then the question stands. My way or the highway?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,650 posts)If Republicans are willing to come to the middle, fine, but if they demand we meet them on the far right then thats a non-starter, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zaj
(3,433 posts)Who aren't comfortable with rapid change that next lgen dems want
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)They just dont get many headlines. Russian sanctions passed with only a few "nyet" votes.
Any candidate who says they refuse to work with the GOP on ANYTHING just shows themselves to be no better than the GOP. Doesnt mean you have to agree on EVERYTHING either.
And they will likely lose Independent votes for having such a ridiculous position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,915 posts)Joe is out there and getting criticized for taking a stand but has anyone else said anything about it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)both sides. We do nothing to penetrate that perception when we criticize Bidens call for unity and his reluctance to vilify Republicans. Let him put out hope for greater bipartisan efforts. A majority of the electorate wants to see Dems and Republicans find common ground when and if they can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Gridlock passed for normalcy up until 2017. McConnell has said "If I'm still the majority leader in the Senate think of me as the Grim Reaper. None of that stuff (candidate promises) is going to pass". I believe him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zaj
(3,433 posts)For the presidential nominee, we need Obama progressive leadership, not AOC progressive leadership. The kind that makes people if all beliefs feel understood and people can trust. Not activist leadership that activates mostly the base.
Winning nationally is a hard needle to thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)Let's just say I agree with you.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zaj
(3,433 posts)She is great, she is a leader. Over time she will learn first hand how critical votes are from Dems in West Virginia, Arizona, Ohio and other purple and red areas.
AOC, Bernie and Trump showed how radical populism can work to win voters.
But AOC comes from a hyper diverse community. Other Dems don't. Joe knows how to campaign with a populism that activates with hope the swing voters from non diverse areas. To a degree so does Warren, I think.
But next gen type Dems are way more ready for culture change that I want than the key voters that we need to gain power to lead the change.
We need AOC types, but we need a strategic vision along with energy and activism.
Threading a needle
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)Childish.
And appeals are never answered.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Trump, not Republicans. If he slumps due to debates, gaffes, or a situation beyond his control, any
candidate who wants to win big nationally would do well to adopt this bipartisan-willing
attitude and stay away from divisive politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zaj
(3,433 posts)The alternative is civil unrest.
It's hard but we must demand elected leaders try to work together.
Democracy dies if we don't
Problem is only one party cares about protecting Democracy anymore.
Just wait till neither party cares, and we see a race to one party domination. The GOP will will that race because thats where all the authoritarian type have moved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)things they are going to do when none of it will happen as long as republicans control the Senate. If we don't take the Senate in 2020 then the best we can hope for is to accuse them of obstruction and take the Senate in 2022.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,147 posts)Day to day functioning of the administration requires little input from Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)take back the house and both houses of Congress. Or even something less.
Predictions of cooperation or not is all speculation and I use that word to be polite.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nolabear
(41,915 posts)But Im curious as to what people see as viable options.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)say what favors their candidate and hurts who they feel is a threat.
In those cases, which I think is the majority, the words dont tell us much.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Coerce them.
Bait them.
Trick them.
Trap 'em.
"Triangulate them".
Basically out maneuver them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elleng
(130,156 posts)Reason MUST pertain.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
randr
(12,408 posts)all foreign monies flowing into Republicans and prosecute where applicable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)After Trump, they will be in disarray. A smart President will offer carrots and sticks to vulnerable Republicans and pick some off. We may never hear the truth of why Senator Red State suddenly decided to cooperate. Probably better that way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,915 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)We're going to miraculously win the Senate, and keep the House, then any Democratic President will be able to get anything they want, just like Obama in his first two years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden