Bernie Sanders' Socialism Speech here

[crazytown]

Last edited Wed Jun 12, 2019, 02:50 PM - Edit history (1)

[brooklynite]

1. An inside the beltway speech that won't convince a single voter...

...time well spent.

[Kahuna7]

3. It already sounds like he bused in supporters to applaud for him.

[highplainsdem]

2. I hope he doesn't give the GOP too many "Democrats are all really socialists" sound bites

to use in their ads.

[Kahuna7]

9. Income redistribution, they'll say. nt

[Lucid Dreamer]

24. That is a good hope with the Long Term View.

Unfortunately S-word already has votes from the Bernie supporters in the Primaries. He doesn't need to solicit them.

The Long Game requires him to get presently undecided voters on our side in the General... even from the right-of-center.
This speech isn't helping.


The echoes of the primary campaign will be heard long after the Convention. Every word will resonate in the Electoral College.


Highplains, you are right on target.

[Gothmog]

30. From the Washington Post-The GOP is giddy about running against a socialist

Link to tweet

Republicans are downright giddy about all this. What’s a scarier term to the American public than “socialist”? And with one of the leaders in the Democratic Party embracing it, their pitch to voters that Democrats want to radically change the country to something unrecognizable just got a lot easier.

“You add up things like packing the Supreme Court, getting rid of the electoral college, the Green New Deal and Medicare for none and you have a prescription of turning America into something it never has been and never should be,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said recently. “So we intend to be on the offense in running our races."

“We’re going into the war with some socialists,” Trump told a fundraiser in April.

This could be the defining debate of the 2020 election. Trump is so happy with that. Sanders is fine with that. The rest of the candidates aren’t so sure. But given the way this debate is shaping up, they may have no choice but to pick a side.

[Ron Green]

4. Good for Bernie.

Telling the truth, day after day and year after year.

[brooklynite]

5. So far, I'm hearing a standard Bernie campaign rally speech

[highplainsdem]

7. That's all I'm hearing so far, too.

[SouthernProgressive]

6. Watched to this point. It's his generic stump speech.

Busted out the "oligarchs" line only three minutes into it.

[BannonsLiver]

8. MSNBC already cut away.

[Kahuna7]

14. ...

[rickford66]

28. Showing more Trump.

I'll go mow the lawn.

[Uncle Joe]

10. The corporate media conglomerates have already cut away from Bernie's speech

so they could define what he is saying in real time.



Thanks for the thread crazytown.

[Skya Rhen]

11. Wait a minute - CNN is showing this live - why didn't they show Biden's prime time speech

live, yesterday.

Are they trying to imply that Bernie is the spokesman for the Democratic Party and that we, as a party, subscribe to Democratic Socialism?

[highplainsdem]

15. The Sanders campaign marketed this speech to the media as something it isn't, so far. Supposed to

be some sort of major speech, not the same old same old.

[highplainsdem]

12. This speech was billed as Sanders defining or redefining democratic socialism. He should have

focused on that (re)definition if that really WAS his purpose.

[brooklynite]

13. I'm going to get lunch...let me know when I'm supposed to be educated...

[highplainsdem]

16. I'm trying stay awake while I listen to him.

[highplainsdem]

21. Well, you didn't miss anything. I wish I hadn't postponed my lunch, but I did want to hear every

word, in case it did turn out to be interesting.

[highplainsdem]

17. Thanks for posting that link, crazytown!

[crazytown]

22. You're welcome

[highplainsdem]

23. You made it possible for a lot of people here to watch the entire thing after cable news cut away.

And even though Bernie isn't my cup of political tea, I know he has lots of supporters here.

I love it when people post links so speeches and other campaign events can be watched online, so there are more options.

Again, thanks!

[crazytown]

25. It was all very familiar.

I was waiting for Sanders to quote FDR's four freedoms, but he skipped it. I am grateful he did not say the Democratic Party is a Democratic Socialist party.

[highplainsdem]

27. I'm grateful, too, that he didn't try to wrap that albatross of a label around the Democratic Party.

Of course, many of his followers don't like the Democratic Party.

There was one part of his speech today -- think it was where he was talking about FDR and unfinished business -- where his supporters gave him fairly enthusiastic applause, then much more muted appaluse when he brought up the Democratic Party's role.

[tishaLA]

18. It's not a well-run event

The optics aren't great, the speech isn't saying he hasn't said to bigger, higher energy crowds before. In fact, the whole thing is sorta flaccid

[riverine]

19. Careful with the term "flaccid" when referring to a

78 year old man, please.

[highplainsdem]

20. LOL. I used the word "tired" elsewhere to describe Bernie's delivery of this speech. It's a tired

rant.

And the venue/audience doesn't help.

[Funtatlaguy]

26. At least it didn't last longer than four hours.

[Gothmog]

29. Washington Post-Sanders wants Americans to buy into socialism. He's got some convincing to do

I do not think that the Democratic Party can win with a socialist on the ticket

Link to tweet

It’s a risky move, not least because he has some convincing to do — among his 2020 Democratic field and the whole country. “Should the Democratic Party embrace socialism?” is at the heart of its debate about what kind of candidate can beat President Trump.

Let’s start with the whole country. Less than half of Americans say they’d vote for a socialist for president. More say they’d vote for an atheist or Muslim, according to a Gallup survey in May. That’s the same as 2015 when Sanders first launched his presidency, despite his efforts during that campaign to warm Americans up to socialism. A Monmouth University survey in April finds 57 percent of Americans think socialism is not compatible with American values.....

“If we’re not careful, we’re going to end up reelecting the worst president in American history,” said former Colorado governor John Hickenlooper. (He got booed by a gathering of Democrats in San Francisco for saying that.) It’s also notable that the most vocal proponents of dropping socialism from the campaign trail are at the bottom of the polls right now....

Republicans are downright giddy about all this. What’s a scarier term to the American public than “socialist”? And with one of the leaders in the Democratic Party embracing it, their pitch to voters that Democrats want to radically change the country to something unrecognizable just got a lot easier.