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Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:34 PM

 

Joe Biden is not racist.

No way I can look at Joe's history and make that conclusion.

I'm still undecided on a candidate so I'm not endorsing Joe here.

That said, any of our candidates who use divisive without substance GOP-like tactics to cut down another get a ding from me.

I will make my decision based on a candidate's plans, not negative attacks. Don't like it one bit.
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Reply Joe Biden is not racist. (Original post)
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 OP
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #1
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #2
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #3
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #5
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #8
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #7
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #13
marylandblue Jun 2019 #27
tishaLA Jun 2019 #18
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #19
qazplm135 Jun 2019 #11
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #14
qazplm135 Jun 2019 #26
PatSeg Jun 2019 #23
Kurt V. Jun 2019 #24
Cha Jun 2019 #31
loyalsister Jun 2019 #33
dawg day Jun 2019 #4
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #34
Peacetrain Jun 2019 #6
Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #9
Gothmog Jun 2019 #10
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #17
LakeArenal Jun 2019 #29
tonedevil Jun 2019 #12
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #16
tonedevil Jun 2019 #30
Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #35
MoonRiver Jun 2019 #15
FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #20
Peacetrain Jun 2019 #21
FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #22
Mike Nelson Jun 2019 #25
Evergreen Emerald Jun 2019 #28
CentralMass Jun 2019 #32
highmindedhavi Jun 2019 #36
robbedvoter Jun 2019 #39
Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #37
robbedvoter Jun 2019 #38

Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:35 PM

1. of course not. but he is courting some of them.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:36 PM

2. Courting? How?

 

Please explain what you mean so I can understand. Thanks.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:38 PM

3. by making reference to racist he's worked with to pass legislation

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:41 PM

5. On and on.. really? Can we just stop!!

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:44 PM

8. Honestly i can't. we know what voting block decides our candidate. we better remember that.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:43 PM

7. I know he worked with segregationist senators.

 

I don't think that equates courting. Bipartisanship is a gray area...doesn't mean he agreed with their ideology or condoned their actions.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:48 PM

13. Completely agree he isn't a racist. so why bring it up other than to court those fringe' economic

 

Anxiety' votes?
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:29 PM

27. Apparently it's an old story he has told many times, and

 

he ignored his staff's advice that it was time to drop it.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:02 PM

18. It wasn't about "bipartisanship"; the guys he referenced were Democrats

 

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:04 PM

19. True. Poor choice of words on my part.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

11. oh goodness

 

he said something stupid and is being stubborn about it but good grief you really jumped the shark with that comment.
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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:50 PM

14. your words: stupid, stubborn. Let's take that seriously.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:24 PM

26. I do

 

Serious enough to not say something equally silly like you did.
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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:11 PM

23. Sorry,

 

that's quite a stretch.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:15 PM

24. no. It's a plan. not necessarily a bad one, but that's part of it.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:06 PM

31. That's ridiculous.. you're completely Wrong.

 

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Response to Kurt V. (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:23 PM

33. How to appeal to bigots without being one

 

It's nothing new. The fact that racism was a motivating factor in the 2016 election has been an influence on candidate selection for 2020. The question of how to win back Trump supporting white working class voters is more accurately phrased "how do Democratic candidates get bigots to vote for them without joining in their hateful ideology.

Howard Dean inartfully mentioned that people who fly confederate flag should be voting for Dems because their kids need healthcare too.

Tough on crime became a priority as an overcorrection after Dukakis was destroyed with the Willie Horton ad.

Racism is so deeply embedded in our culture that people are comfortable with it until it becomes malicious and explicit. Talking about it tends to elicit a defensive posture Robin DeAngelo identified as white fragility. Where instead of taking a minute to chew on why someone might be offended by remarks that suggest racial insensitivity, white people turn the conversation around to center it on their hurt feelings and paint themselves as victims.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:41 PM

4. I just wish he would think before he speaks, and listen to his advisors

 

He's old enough to know better, and I hope, not too old to learn.
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Response to dawg day (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

34. Agreed

 

and he needs to vet his statements with his advisers before he utters them.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:42 PM

6. No he is not..

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

9. Thank you!! Couldn't agree more.

 

I will gladly vote for our nominee, but hey candidates and those thowing out the negatives faster than a batting machine during spring practice, you will not get me to switch. Find something positive and go for it... that will get the voters attention
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

10. According to Symone Sanders, Biden did not praise a segregationist

 




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Response to Gothmog (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:58 PM

17. Thanks. I agree his comments have been misconstrued.

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:40 PM

29. As usual.

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:46 PM

12. Is someone saying he is? /nt

 

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:57 PM

16. Not outright, no. Unfortunately, his comments have been interpreted that way.

 

Yes he worked with segregationist Democrats in his senate career. Should he talk about it?

Maybe not if he's going to be attacked. He is who he is though.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:01 PM

30. As I see it...

 

VP Biden didn't praise the Senators he talked about, but he did wax nostalgic about that time in a way that disturbed many people. On the other side no one has called him a racist, but some have expressed disapproval with what he said in a way that has his supporters upset. The cherry on this Sundae is Biden talking about Senator Eastland not calling him boy, but calling him son. I honestly don't know what he was trying to do there, but it reminds us that the Senator would have likely called Biden boy if he had been black and that's one of the things he overlooked to work with the man.
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Response to tonedevil (Reply #30)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:24 PM

35. Thank you foe your take on it.

 

I get what your saying.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:51 PM

15. Nobody thinks he is a racist.

 

But he's leaving himself open to that accusation by Idiot and its minions.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:06 PM

20. I don't like it either. Twitter world has blown up over this but this will pass

 

When the nutcase in the WH takes us to war if he has his way.
Keep things in perspective
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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:07 PM

21. That is so scary, and I think you are right.. we are talking about that right

 

now at our house..
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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:09 PM

22. I know right ? Scary times.

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:21 PM

25. That is very...

 

true. He did deny it... "Not a racist bone in my body," he said. However, the other candidates did not call him a "racist" so, he changed the accusation. The accused person is now accused of calling Biden a racist... I suppose it's an effective strategy.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:35 PM

28. Seriously: He was stating that he is willing to work with the other side

 

no matter how idiotic their beliefs are. That is all he was saying. And he chose an idiotic belief that we could all agree is idiotic. It was just to make a point.

Please. Stop.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:26 PM

32. Joe Biden created the issue. Other canidates responded to it.

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 07:02 PM

36. He called Jesse Jackson "that boy" back in1980

 

He said "that boy aint no dummy", it was a compliment to Jesse, wrong choice of words.
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Response to highmindedhavi (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 07:40 PM

39. while Obama was "clean and articulate"

 

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 07:26 PM

37. No, he's not a racist. At all. Ever.

 

I don't support Biden. But geez, I can't believe the accusations being flung at him.
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Response to Claritie Pixie (Original post)

Fri Jun 21, 2019, 07:39 PM

38. Nobody called him that. It's not the working with racists as the fond rememberance of it.

 

In the times of 🍊, to hear a D candidate describing the good ol' times (which he wants back) with such examples - after he already said he intends to work with Rs a lot - makes some of us queasy. He called Cheney a decent man, Pence too - I am wondering what we have in common. This OP is a straw man
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