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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:48 PM Jun 2019

So Trump has been accused of rape by a writer...

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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-sexual-assault-e-jean-carroll-1445246

A writer for Elle magazine has accused President Donald Trump of raping her about 24 years ago, and says she still has the unwashed coat she was wearing when it happened.

E. Jean Carroll, a well-known advice columnist and writer, said the assault took place at Bergdorf Goodman, a high-end department store in New York City, where Trump recognized her while shopping. Trump was married to his second wife, Marla Maples at the time and had a young daughter, Tiffany Trump, with her.

The White House and Carroll did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Newsweek. The White House called the allegations, "completely false and unrealistic" to New York. The story surfaced 25 years after the allegations, they said, and "was created simply to make the President look bad."

According to Carroll, the president recognized her as "that advice lady" and asked her to help him pick out a gift for "a girl." The pair settled on a piece of lacy lingerie and Trump asked Carroll to try it on. Carroll said she deflected the offer and told him to try it on instead. The pair then made their way to a dressing room where, Carroll alleges, Trump sexually assaulted her.

Carroll did not go to the police after the encounter, but did say she told friends, both journalists, one told her to go to the police she said and the other advised her to tell no one. Both confirmed the account to New York.

Carroll said she did not come forward earlier because "receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women who've come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward."

Carroll also claimed that the dress she wore on the night of the encounter, "still hangs on the back of my closet door, unworn and unlaundered since that evening."
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So Trump has been accused of rape by a writer... (Original Post) Indygram Jun 2019 OP
... and this will go nowhere. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2019 #1
We need an Independent Prosecutor who is not a ... JoeOtterbein Jun 2019 #2
Just watched discussions about this on CNN and MSNBC 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2019 #3
hmmm shanny Jun 2019 #4
She supposedly still has the jacket she was wearing at the time Indygram Jun 2019 #5
maybe it can be dna tested after all these years nt msongs Jun 2019 #6
The statute of limitations has expired dalton99a Jun 2019 #8
apparently it is ok re: rape with Republicans . . Iliyah Jun 2019 #7
Locking ... Yonnie3 Jun 2019 #9
 

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
1. ... and this will go nowhere.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jun 2019

Just like every other thing that should have brought him down.

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JoeOtterbein

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2. We need an Independent Prosecutor who is not a ...
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:51 PM
Jun 2019

...Republican!

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50 Shades Of Blue

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3. Just watched discussions about this on CNN and MSNBC
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:54 PM
Jun 2019

They took it quite seriously and even though they reported Trump's denial, including his denial that he'd ever met Carroll, they also showed the photo of Trump and Ivana together with Carroll and her husband.

Also reported that there is no statute of limitation on bringing a rape charge in NY.

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shanny

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4. hmmm
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:58 PM
Jun 2019

in a he said/she said scenario, which do we think will have more credibility?

especially since there may be physical evidence and now a flat denial "I never met her!" from the rapist in chief

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Indygram

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5. She supposedly still has the jacket she was wearing at the time
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 08:59 PM
Jun 2019

unwashed.

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msongs

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6. maybe it can be dna tested after all these years nt
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jun 2019
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dalton99a

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8. The statute of limitations has expired
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jun 2019
Carroll’s account describes the alleged attack in graphic detail. “The moment the dressing-room door is closed, [Trump] lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips,” she writes. “He seizes both my arms and pushes me up against the wall a second time, and, as I become aware of how large he is, he holds me against the wall with his shoulder and jams his hand under my coat dress and pulls down my tights.”

The alleged encounter then escalated even further: “The next moment, still wearing correct business attire, shirt, tie, suit jacket, overcoat, he opens the overcoat, unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.”

This is an unequivocal description of first-degree rape, according to Roger Canaff, a former sex crimes prosecutor in the Bronx who now trains law enforcement on how to handle sexual violence cases. But the statute of limitations for first-degree rape was just five years in New York in the mid-1990s, when the incident is alleged to have occurred. (Carroll claims the attack took place in either the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996.) New York changed its statute in 2006 to give prosecutors unlimited time to bring first degree rape-charges, but the new law doesn’t apply to cases in which the statute of limitations has already expired.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/06/new-york-magazine-rape-allegation-trump-e-jean-carroll-prosecution-statute-of-limitations/
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Iliyah

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7. apparently it is ok re: rape with Republicans . .
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:02 PM
Jun 2019

It is a form of multiply.

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Fri Jun 21, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jun 2019

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