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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/22/joe-biden-abortion-reproductive-rights-democrats-elizabeth-warrenBiden stumbles over abortion rights while Warren receives cheers
Jessica Glenza in Columbia, South Carolina
Sat 22 Jun 2019 21.07 BST
In the first presidential forum on reproductive rights in recent memory, former vice-president Joe Biden told an audience of mostly female Planned Parenthood supporters he had a 100% voting record on reproductive rights.
In fact, his record on the subject is mixed, as a question to the former vice-president suggested.
Well, first of all, Im not sure about the mixed record part. Ive had 100% voting record, Biden said, before his microphone cut out. When it came back on, he had moved on to healthcare.
Biden, a Catholic and a Delaware senator for 36 years, has gone back and forth on support for abortion access. In this election cycle, reproductive rights has emerged as a top issue as Republican statehouses across the US have attacked abortion rights.
Biden told his audience in Columbia he would codify the right to an abortion, granted in Roe v Wade, into law as defined by Casey a stance more conservative than those of many other Democratic candidates present.
Casey is the 1992 supreme court decision which allowed states to severely restrict abortion access, including imposing waiting periods and medically unnecessary administrative burdens.
(snip)
Weve been on defense for 47 years, and its not working, said the Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren. An inch at a time, a piece at a time, theyve chipped away, hacked away at the ground under our feet, so access becomes narrower, becomes more limited.
She went on: This is a democracy. In a democracy, the laws should reflect the values of the people. So I say it is time to go on offense with Roe v Wade. Its not enough to say were going to rely on the courts. We need to pass a federal law to make Roe v Wade the rule of the land.
That prompted huge cheers.
She continued: We can add and say: no more of this semi-repeal of Roe, another bite out of Roe, an undercut of Roe. Were going to make it the law. Lets make it the law for real again.
But the loudest cheers of the day went to Cory Booker, who called bans passed by states like Alabama a violation of human rights.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)These forums are nothing but opportunities to get your best soundbite in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,167 posts)What's your beef?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jb5150
(1,177 posts)it doers give each candidate an opportunity to give their nuanced take on the issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CharleyDog
(757 posts)Trump makes sure he dominates news cycles, so we need every bit we can get. Cheering for women's human rights and privacy for medical care is good news and cheers me up!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)The Court overturned the Roe trimester framework in favor of a viability analysis, thereby allowing states to implement abortion restrictions that apply during the first trimester of pregnancy. The Court also replaced the strict scrutiny standard of review required by Roe with the undue burden standard, under which abortion restrictions would be unconstitutional when they were enacted for "the purpose or effect of placing a substantial obstacle in the path of a woman seeking an abortion of a nonviable fetus." Applying this new standard of review, the Court upheld four provisions of the Pennsylvania law, but invalidated the requirement of spousal notification. Four justices wrote or joined opinions arguing that Roe v. Wade should have been struck down, while two justices wrote opinions favoring the preservation of the higher standard of review for abortion restrictions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_v._Casey
Biden is once again out of step with the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)For me, it's important to be able to articulate the differences clearly.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
stonecutter357
(12,693 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... these potshots people keep taking at Biden are helping him much more than hurting him because most people are quick to recognize what they are attempting. Making mountains out of molehills. I believe Jim Clyburn and John Lewis agree with me. Those who disagree with me are Biden's opponents and their supporters. Go figure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(44,972 posts)it's an insult to women. And restricting abortion for women isn't making a mountain out of a molehill, that's a disgrace.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
progressoid
(49,929 posts)This playing to the middle bullshit is a losing strategy for women and choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,972 posts)Another search for the middle ground at the expense of a women's choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,972 posts)In the first presidential forum on reproductive rights in recent memory, former vice-president Joe Biden told an audience of mostly female Planned Parenthood supporters he had a 100% voting record on reproductive rights.
In fact, his record on the subject is mixed, as a question to the former vice-president suggested.
Well, first of all, Im not sure about the mixed record part. Ive had 100% voting record, Biden said, before his microphone cut out. When it came back on, he had moved on to healthcare.
Biden, a Catholic and a Delaware senator for 36 years, has gone back and forth on support for abortion access. In this election cycle, reproductive rights has emerged as a top issue as Republican statehouses across the US have attacked abortion rights.
Biden told his audience in Columbia he would codify the right to an abortion, granted in Roe v Wade, into law as defined by Casey a stance more conservative than those of many other Democratic candidates present.
Casey is the 1992 supreme court decision which allowed states to severely restrict abortion access, including imposing waiting periods and medically unnecessary administrative burdens.
Liz and Cory were awesome.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)n/t
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(44,972 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)It was excellent. Biden affirmed his commitment to reproductive health and Roe v. Wade.
Williamson surprised me. I thought her comments about how men making choices for women is a larger symptom of living under a patriarchy rang so true. She talked about how saving abortion is only one battle in the war for equality. It reminded me of how Hillary connected womens rights to human rights.
There is a place for Williamson in government. Maybe not president, but I hate how she gets dismissed and mocked on DU. Her talent is inspiring people. Thats something that we need.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(12,939 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,304 posts)states to pass the incremental laws that undercut Roe, as Warren described. The barriers like mandatory 24-hour delays, biased counseling and parental consent regulations are all thanks to Casey.
Describing one's self as being pro-choice "as defined by Casey" tells me this is not someone who will fight for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)with a legislative solution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden