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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:11 AM

 

In South Carolina, Voters Blame Media for Amplifying Biden's Missteps

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"Democrats in South Carolina may have over eight months to decide whom to vote for in 2020, but for now, there’s one thing that unites them: they think the media is relentlessly bullying Joe Biden.

“Propaganda’s going to always be around,” said Columbia resident Rev. Thurmond Guess, Sr. “If you give the devil a ride, he will drive.”

Guess Sr. was describing a sentiment that’s become increasingly common among the electorate here: at the very least, voters say, the political press is over-hyping Biden’s remarks this week, where he recalled working with prominent segregationists to get things done in the Senate. In interviews with nearly a dozen voters over two days, undecided and ardent supporters described a dizzying cycle where cable news buzz and print media headlines are sensationalizing the former vice president’s comments.

“They’re looking at any little thing to get the candidates to turn on each other,” said Elizabeth White, a Biden supporter from Aiken. “Any kind of headline to grab attention, they’re going to blow it up.”

“There’s too many news channels and they’ve got to have something to talk about,” added Geraldine Mogan, an undecided voter. “They make too big of it.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/in-south-carolina-voters-blame-media-for-amplifying-bidens-missteps
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Scurrilous Jun 2019 OP
ucrdem Jun 2019 #1
Cha Jun 2019 #4
ucrdem Jun 2019 #9
nolabear Jun 2019 #35
ucrdem Jun 2019 #38
Cha Jun 2019 #2
Scurrilous Jun 2019 #3
ucrdem Jun 2019 #5
Cha Jun 2019 #8
ucrdem Jun 2019 #19
Cha Jun 2019 #20
Scurrilous Jun 2019 #15
True Blue American Jun 2019 #7
Cha Jun 2019 #10
True Blue American Jun 2019 #6
Cha Jun 2019 #11
True Blue American Jun 2019 #12
Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #22
True Blue American Jun 2019 #23
katmondoo Jun 2019 #27
JI7 Jun 2019 #13
True Blue American Jun 2019 #14
Cha Jun 2019 #16
JI7 Jun 2019 #17
Cha Jun 2019 #18
Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #21
True Blue American Jun 2019 #24
Skya Rhen Jun 2019 #25
Kahuna7 Jun 2019 #29
aikoaiko Jun 2019 #26
nolabear Jun 2019 #36
wyldwolf Jun 2019 #28
ecstatic Jun 2019 #30
Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #32
ecstatic Jun 2019 #33
Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #34
Drunken Irishman Jun 2019 #37
Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #31

Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:14 AM

1. "relentlessly bullying Joe Biden"

 

Ain't that the truth!





p.s. Cory demanding a personal apology on CNN was the point at which it became ridiculous, I guess not just to me.
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:27 AM

4. Overplaying?

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:32 AM

9. just a little . . .

 







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Response to ucrdem (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:40 PM

35. I know I'm speaking as an older white woman

 

But I think many people underestimate the pragmatism and the importance of history and respect to a great deal of the black community. Joe has done things that were careful at the time, and this is a time when vociferous people want to use that careful history against him rather than thinking that he actually was on the right side but didn’t perform perfectly.

I’m watching Mayor Pete do quite respectfully in the SB Town Hall and being criticized for not being emotional enough. If you’re on the battlefield you’re going to be a target.

I think I’m rambling...so much to process.
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Response to nolabear (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:55 PM

38. I don't envy either of them.

 

Joe's going to get hit where he's most vulnerable and has the most to lose, in this case, his relationship to the AA community and the perception of his electability, both of which are handily damaged by this latest word flip-out. Booker's role is regretable but if it wasn't him it would be someone else. And of course Sanders signs on, that's a given. So if Joe thought twice or thrice about getting into this I can understand why. It's not going to get any easier.

Buttigieg is facing what appears to be a long-standing out-of-control police corruption in a position where he has absolutely no room to maneuver, i.e. live TV, in the middle of a campaign. I don't know how he keeps the campaign going but if he temporarily suspends it he's ending on a high note and keeping his options open so I wish him luck.

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:25 AM

2. That's what many of us have been saying..

 

Because we've seen this bad movie before.. that's what the freaking m$m does.

I very much appreciate that the Voters in South Carolina can see this!



https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/22/joe-biden-south-carolina-fish-fry-1376705

Mahalo, Scurrilous!





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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:26 AM

3. ...

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:27 AM

5. Joe looks pretty good for a guy with 20 knives sticking out of his back

 



heya Cha!
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Response to ucrdem (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:31 AM

8. lol.. I didn't know where

 

you were going with that.. lol

I thought he looks pretty darn good anyway!

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Response to Cha (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:05 AM

19. Ides of March

 

As the story goes Caesar was stabbed 23 times in the back by senators worried he was getting too popular:



Unfortunately Julius wasn't wear any Teflon . .


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Response to ucrdem (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:11 AM

20. Good Grief! Et tu Brute(Rev Al)..

 

That adage.. "What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.. " comes to mind.



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Response to ucrdem (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:46 AM

15. ...

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:30 AM

7. Love it, Cha!

 

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:33 AM

10. Hey Aloha, True Blue!

 

Mahalo!
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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:29 AM

6. They are absolutely right!

 

Especially Joy Reid, Rev. Al and the hosts on MSNBC!

Joy talked to Kamala Harris all the way through Elizabeth Warren. She id the same with others.

At least Al cut away to the speeches but then allowed Booker to accuse again. After having Biden on he allowed his guests to spew hate on Biden.

They are really doing damage to the party they claim to back with thi fovoritism. Had to keep it on because that was the only station that carried it, but finished my book while waiting. I was able to watch Elizabeth because a nice poster here showed her.

My thanks to that poster.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:35 AM

11. Sigh.. Hope this backfires on them..

 

John Lewis and James Clyburn have Biden's Back.. I appreciate that!
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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:42 AM

12. So do I.Clyburn and Lewis

 

Are both treasures who know you have to work with the worst.

One pundit called it,” The past!” They are nuts to pretend the worst are not still here! Even the worst of the worst.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:46 AM

22. Yep. All along it's been obvious that Reid is a KHiver. nt

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:48 AM

23. I could say worse

 

About Joy. But I won’t. Quit watching her long ago.
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Response to True Blue American (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:18 AM

27. It is true, I have turned off or muted MSNBC because they are unfairly targeting Biden

 

He is a good man and will do the right thing in the end. Remember how MSNBC went on and on about Obama and the Pastor endlessly. I turned that off every time they went there.
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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:42 AM

13. it just keeps attention on Biden and makes those attacking him look bad

 

i think Biden may have won the NYC vote when DeBlasio attacked him .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:45 AM

14. You are right on that. After listening to all the

 

Hate spewed on Joe, encouraged by the media made him better in my eyes. The jealousy was so obvious.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:49 AM

16. Nice pic! Is that in South Carolina?

 

Thank You!
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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:51 AM

17. yes, but it's from last year when he was campaigning with the democratic candidate for gov

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 05:52 AM

18. Ah.. Thank you!

 

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:44 AM

21. But people, Rev Al included are telling me Biden's comments are hurtful....

 

I'm black. They didn't hurt me one bit. Why should they? Biden made an historical reference and the "woke" generation are up in arms. The "woke" generation is going to give us four more years of trump. You can't discuss the past without being called a dinosaur??? Nobody is good enough for them.

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:51 AM

24. Thank you!

 

What I most resented was the media going on about the past, as if there are not more racists today than there were in the past.

I want us to all live as Americans, one!
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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:53 AM

25. All of the phony tears are so condescending...

 

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Response to Skya Rhen (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:01 AM

29. Bill DeBlasion with his jihad against Biden will do more to drive voters to Biden

 

than anything.
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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 06:56 AM

26. For now...

 



The debates haven't even happened yet.


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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:46 PM

36. And the talking heads are already criticizing Pete for even going

 

saying his city is in crisis. I actually heard that tossed out on CNN. I’m starting to feel protective of people I’m not even supporting!
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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 07:23 AM

28. I agree with them... but...

 

... we have to guard ourselves against always blaming the media or using it as an excuse to give inexcusable behavior by a candidate a pass. The voters are right in Biden's case. But the media also hypes things Trump has said and done (though not nearly enough) and they happen to be right in the (p)resident's case.

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:17 PM

30. The problem is, while older voters see through it, younger & low information voters will

 

stay home next fall because they will be convinced that Biden is racist.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:24 PM

32. Do you think this "scandal" will still be hurting him 17 months from now?

 

I think it will largely be forgotten.
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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #32)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:27 PM

33. It will be forgotten but it will also affect turnout next fall.

 

Just like the attacks affected turnout for Hillary in 2016.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:28 PM

34. I hope you're wrong.

 

We can’t afford a badly damaged nominee a la 2016.
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:52 PM

37. Older voters are who we need...

 

They're the most reliable - younger voters aren't.

Biden does better, I'd bet, with older black voters than Hillary and that will be enough.
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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:19 PM

31. It hasn't changed this AA's mind one iota. I'm still with Joe! n/t

 

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