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Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:09 PM

 

The South Bend Town Hall with Pete Buttigieg is not going well (live on CNN)

The audience is very riled up. Buttigieg does not look like he's in command.

It's worth considering that one hallmark of a good candidate is handling an unruly crowd. Bill Clinton was a master at it.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:13 PM

1. Mayor Pete looks like someone died.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 03:15 PM

2. I just posted that. I hope someone can get past the rage.

 

I donít know what the cure is. People want vengeance and I donít know what will satisfy that and let people work together toward a solution-or many solutions.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:26 PM

3. This is not a rally, however. He's not even the moderator of the town hall.

 

It seems to me that he's doing what his job requires: Quietly listening and offering thoughtful, non-combative responses.

Trying to take "command" when the room is as angry as it is would only backfire, I believe.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 09:31 PM

4. He doesn't necessarily need to be in command in this particular situation, but it's clear he doesn't

 

have much of the audience's respect. Agree with your comment about Clinton.
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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 23, 2019, 11:45 PM

5. I think that the audience feels that he ignored developing problems.

 

Even if he was not ignoring the problems, just going into those communities often for public forums would have given him some insight into real and developing problems.

Note to every up and coming politician, spend gobs of time in ALL communities that you serve listening to people. Some of the complaints may seem trivial, but they may also be pointing to neglect or a developing larger problem.
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Response to Blue_true (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 07:17 AM

6. It certainly highlights the risks of trying to go from mayor to presidential candidate in one leap.

 

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 07:32 AM

7. For mayors, relationships between police and AAs are crucial.

 

This probably has more to do with unanswered complaints over smaller incidents going back many years. If you are not with them on the little things, they won't be with you on the big things.

There's nothing he can do about it now.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 24, 2019, 06:35 PM

8. There was an incident in my county a few years back.

 

The dash camera of a sheriff's department patrol car caught 3 White cops plummeting a Black man. To top things off, they logged several offenses against him, including assaulting police officers. The camera showed otherwise. That obviously caused a big row locally, the elected sheriff was forced to resign and a decorated, Black retired FBI agent was appointed acting sheriff. Needless to say, there was some housecleaning at that department, but the situation was stabilized. All three cops were fired and I think two were convicted of assaulting the Black man. The third was acquitted, but if I remember no longer can serve as a police officer anywhere.

Now my county is a red republican led county, but my hat is off to how forcefully politicians and prosecutors handled that situation.

I think that Buttigieg's presidential run is over, but he can come back from this situation. Unfortunately time is not on his side, I think the election for the next Mayor is later this year. His situation, like I pointed out and will do again, is why up and coming politicians need to keep their ear to the ground within every community and take complaints voiced to them seriously.
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