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brooklynite

(94,499 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:09 PM Jun 2019

The South Bend Town Hall with Pete Buttigieg is not going well (live on CNN)

The audience is very riled up. Buttigieg does not look like he's in command.

It's worth considering that one hallmark of a good candidate is handling an unruly crowd. Bill Clinton was a master at it.

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greatauntoftriplets

(175,731 posts)
1. Mayor Pete looks like someone died.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jun 2019
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nolabear

(41,959 posts)
2. I just posted that. I hope someone can get past the rage.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jun 2019

I don’t know what the cure is. People want vengeance and I don’t know what will satisfy that and let people work together toward a solution-or many solutions.

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Music Man

(1,184 posts)
3. This is not a rally, however. He's not even the moderator of the town hall.
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jun 2019

It seems to me that he's doing what his job requires: Quietly listening and offering thoughtful, non-combative responses.

Trying to take "command" when the room is as angry as it is would only backfire, I believe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,323 posts)
4. He doesn't necessarily need to be in command in this particular situation, but it's clear he doesn't
Sun Jun 23, 2019, 10:31 PM
Jun 2019

have much of the audience's respect. Agree with your comment about Clinton.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. I think that the audience feels that he ignored developing problems.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:45 AM
Jun 2019

Even if he was not ignoring the problems, just going into those communities often for public forums would have given him some insight into real and developing problems.

Note to every up and coming politician, spend gobs of time in ALL communities that you serve listening to people. Some of the complaints may seem trivial, but they may also be pointing to neglect or a developing larger problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,323 posts)
6. It certainly highlights the risks of trying to go from mayor to presidential candidate in one leap.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:17 AM
Jun 2019
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. For mayors, relationships between police and AAs are crucial.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 08:32 AM
Jun 2019

This probably has more to do with unanswered complaints over smaller incidents going back many years. If you are not with them on the little things, they won't be with you on the big things.

There's nothing he can do about it now.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. There was an incident in my county a few years back.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 07:35 PM
Jun 2019

The dash camera of a sheriff's department patrol car caught 3 White cops plummeting a Black man. To top things off, they logged several offenses against him, including assaulting police officers. The camera showed otherwise. That obviously caused a big row locally, the elected sheriff was forced to resign and a decorated, Black retired FBI agent was appointed acting sheriff. Needless to say, there was some housecleaning at that department, but the situation was stabilized. All three cops were fired and I think two were convicted of assaulting the Black man. The third was acquitted, but if I remember no longer can serve as a police officer anywhere.

Now my county is a red republican led county, but my hat is off to how forcefully politicians and prosecutors handled that situation.

I think that Buttigieg's presidential run is over, but he can come back from this situation. Unfortunately time is not on his side, I think the election for the next Mayor is later this year. His situation, like I pointed out and will do again, is why up and coming politicians need to keep their ear to the ground within every community and take complaints voiced to them seriously.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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