****Debate Thread. WooHoo!***

[nolabear]

Have at it, DU

[nolabear]

1. Bernie's up. Taxes.

[emmaverybo]

10. Came across ideological and unfriendly.

[Eliot Rosewater]

407. He frames the problem and never tells how to fix it, and since nobody would work with him

it wouldnt matter if he did know how to fix anything.

[emmaverybo]

425. Nail on head. Excellent sum up. NT

[BeyondGeography]

2. Bernie is shouting/too hot

[UniteFightBack]

20. He sounded loud and so does Gillibrand. nt

[MFM008]

178. Gillibrand

Is annoying.

[UniteFightBack]

195. I thought she sounded like she knew what she was talking about regarding healthcare. nt

[MFM008]

226. I hate

Continual Interrupting. I hate it. I dont care what she knows.

[Amaryllis]

211. He almost always sounds angry to me. Not the kind of temprement i want in a leader.

[UniteFightBack]

219. True but he sounded LOUD....like turn down the volume loud. nt

[Amaryllis]

241. Yeah, always sounds like he's shouting. Needs a speech coach.

[hlthe2b]

3. Yang tries to pull a DeBlasio, but blocked... LOL

[Politicub]

4. Kamala!!

[hlthe2b]

5. And Kamala SCORES!!!!

[TruckFump]

13. Big time!!!

[sprinkleeninow]

6. The audio?? 😏

[58Sunliner]

7. Go Kamala.

[ecstatic]

8. Woo hoo! Kamala came out swinging! nt

[WhoWoodaKnew]

43. Yep

[onetexan]

56. yes, so far i really like Kamala's answers. Let's see how she does the rest of the debate.

Not at all impressed with Bernie. And Joe Yang needs to run for a lower office, like Congress. I like his UBI idea but he doesn't have the experience to back up his ideas. It's a little too utiopian right now.

[nolabear]

9. Hoo baby. 45 is going to have to stop blowing Putin and answer!

[Cha]

12. lol.. that's a quote?!

[nolabear]

15. Nah, but he's literally meeting with him now.

[Cha]

33. Wow.. suspicious Psycho.

[bdamomma]

96. I wonder

if they are watching in bed??? together.

[Blue_true]

126. Isn't this his toilet hour? nt

[nolabear]

11. Hickenlooper is throwing everything he's got in.

[ecstatic]

14. I agree with Hickenlooper on this. We can't just wipe out 1/6th our economy overnight

There are hundreds of thousands of jobs involved here.

[cwydro]

16. No tie for Yang?

Wow, where are our fashion police who were all upset about Buttigieg in shirtsleeves in an airport?

[nolabear]

17. The anchors chuckled about it.

[TruckFump]

24. At least he has a jacket on...

...unlike Gym Jordan who apparently does not own one.

[Takket]

18. nice job Kirsten.......

you got through your first remarks without demanding any of your opponents step down off the stage

[pangaia]

21. LOL God she is one of my senators. :))))

[Honeycombe8]

230. LOL!

This made me laugh.

[a kennedy]

19. Why am I more nervous with this group then last night???

[nolabear]

23. Bigger stakes. Lots of hopes pinned.

[UniteFightBack]

25. I'm with you on that one. nt

[TruckFump]

27. Lots of front runners.

[Honeycombe8]

400. It matters more? One of these people will be the nominee, probably. nt

[AnnieBW]

22. Do the Mikes Sound Funny Again Tonight?

I keep hearing echoes, especially on Bennet.

[58Sunliner]

26. Spanish! Take a drink.

[ecstatic]

28. lol. I like how assertive Senator Gillibrand is being, but

it's not working. lol

[a kennedy]

32. Nope, I want her to just shut up......ooooops, sorry, my X Senator Franken

love is showing.

[nolabear]

38. I complained last night thecwomen were too reserved

But I don’t like her slamming in on others’ time.

Maybe it’s a prejudice I don’t realize.

[pangaia]

39. I don't like her interrupting

[bdamomma]

135. Give the other people

a chance

[mitch96]

428. "I don't like her interrupting"

I think it's a NY thing. Trying to be like talking heads on the TV machine. I have a few NY friends that come down for the season and they do it all the time.
I have to politely remind them that it is RUDE.
m

[pangaia]

441. I was born in NYC. I still live in NY.

I do not interrupt people. Nor do other people I know.

[mitch96]

456. "I do not interrupt people"

Good for you..I applaud you for it.
The people I know from NY do this and it's very annoying. I only lived there for a few years and made many friends. It's a shame that a slice of the NY crowd do this. LIke I said it's as if they want to be like the talking heads on TV. My take is they just want to get their point across before you are done with your point.
m

[pangaia]

461. There are people like this all over the world, nothing particular to NY.

[elleng]

44. Her experience in the subject matter was explained,

which she has to do imo.

[Owl]

49. Her interrupting was rude

[Mme. Defarge]

334. Shrill.

[a kennedy]

29. and the Mayor is speaking Spanish?? AWESOME

[dawg day]

193. huh. If he'd speak his Norwegian, THEN I'll be impressed

Of course, I won't recognize it...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

221. Norwegian is a much easier language than Spanish. I want to hear him speak Dari.

[spooky3]

304. I don't agree. Nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

313. With which point?

Norwegian is easier than Spanish (believe me, it is) or that Mayor Pete should speak Dari?

[spooky3]

321. Norwegian is a more difficult language for English speakers

To learn than is Spanish. I’ve studied both. I think this is likely also to be an opinion shared pretty widely. Here’s one example:

https://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-languages-for-native-english-speakers-to-le-1714778208

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

356. According to the State Department,

both Norwegian and Spanish are category I languages. I've also studied both, and I found Norwegian much easier because the grammar is very similar to English and you barely have to decline nouns or conjugate verbs. It's much less complicated, and the vocabulary is also closer to English.

[spooky3]

369. Let's agree to disagree. Nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

375. Si.

Vi kan være enige om å være uenige.

[tblue37]

343. Spanish is one of the easiest languages for English speakers to learn. nt

[onetexan]

30. Gillibrand needs to stop cutting into the others' time

her interruptions are annoying, and her answers are way to canned.

[TruckFump]

31. Agree.

She is not doing herself any favors IMO.

[hlthe2b]

35. YUP!!!

[BeyondGeography]

34. Mayor Pete and Warren should have a brain-off

[CousinIT]

118. Would LOVE to see these two as POTUS and VP in any order

Actual BRAINS in the WH! Could you IMAGINE?

[Quackers]

192. Ready to leave the undecided column? nt

[Amaryllis]

228. Thought the same myself.

[Qutzupalotl]

140. or a team up!

[tblue37]

345. He us doing very well. nt

[True Dough]

36. A means test for having college tuition being subsidized

sounds totally reasonable to me.

[emmaverybo]

37. Buttigieg good response on college!

[hlthe2b]

42. I hope the mods can restrain Gillibrand and Yang who are trying to monopolize

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

139. Yang is amazingly boring.

[TruckFump]

45. Yeah, I gotta agree with that.

Made a lot of sense. Why pay for the wealthy?

[Goodheart]

40. OMG these are some IMPRESSIVE people.

[BeyondGeography]

41. Yes, but what about Marianne Williamson?

[hlthe2b]

46. Maybe she can lead the "spiritual" blessing at the end. LOL

[TruckFump]

50. Until now, never heard about her.

Guess I will resort to Google!

[apcalc]

52. She is waiting...

[Politicub]

47. Yang - he has good points but they get lost in his UBI proposal

And he’s hard to follow.

[pangaia]

59. H's probably right, but he sure lost me.....:))

[emmaverybo]

48. Really bad Yang pre-answer. Practice this stuff. Great question, thanks for that question, etc. Take

a breath. Look thoughtful, but whatever you do, don’t look lost and taken aback.

[a kennedy]

51. Sorry, what's the orange ribbon for??

[Tipperary]

113. I think orange is gun violence.

I could be wrong.

[a kennedy]

119. Thanks.

[UniteFightBack]

53. Has Marinanne Faithful said anything yet?

[TruckFump]

65. LOL! EOM

[treestar]

110. Gimme Shelter

[barbtries]

152. ha

[Goodheart]

54. Swalwell just dealt a body blow to Biden

WOW

[MrsCoffee]

57. That will backfire big time.

[Demsrule86]

206. No he did not...

[hlthe2b]

55. OHHHHHHH Swallwell turns nasty ageist.

[Goodheart]

61. I think BOTH he and Biden were hurt by that.

[Demsrule86]

242. Wishful thinking. Biden handled it well.

[Funtatlaguy]

63. Didn't think that would come from him.

[onetexan]

64. yea he had me until he started turning on Biden. But Joe is doing quite well rebutting him.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

101. Yeah...that doesn't sit well with me.

[MustLoveBeagles]

158. That's a shame

I was beginning to like him.

[ucrdem]

58. Swalwel gives Joe a break

nice guy!

[a kennedy]

60. Yikes the first slash to Mr Biden......

Joe recovers very well though.

[58Sunliner]

62. Biden not scoring points on student debt.IMO.

[ucrdem]

75. LOL @ Harris, food fight at 0:19

[58Sunliner]

124. Canned answer to boot!

[Demsrule86]

251. I like his plan. I saw the hope scholarship totally ruined because there were

no income restrictions...that was in Georgia.

[Irishxs]

66. Has biden lost his voice?

[Demsrule86]

271. Biden is not a screamer like some. I like that..people who like a candidate will not he swayed by

these debates.Those who hoped Biden would fail wont get their wish... He is doing great.

[Amimnoch]

67. Yang really gets it, but can he sell it?

LOVED his answer, but I suspect most won’t understand what it is that he’s proposing and how it really is a wonderful way to approach our modern paradigm. Like the hell out of him.

[Hekate]

204. Yang sounds like a CPA with a heart. But Warren packs the emotional wallop.

[dawg day]

68. Biden really has a charming smile.

And he had a great comeback to Eric Swallwell saying to pass the torch-- "I'm still carrying that torch!"

It's hard not to contrast him to the mean, unpleasant, and vengeful Trump.

[elleng]

71. Yes and yes!

[R B Garr]

86. Yeah, and not passing the torch to socialism.

Unelectable socialism.

[dawg day]

95. Harris had a good line too-

About stopping the food fight.

[elleng]

174. Sadly, getting into the weeds on medicare/medicare for all/etc etc confuses and doesn't enlighten.

[Demsrule86]

107. I think Biden is doing great.

[peggysue2]

341. Yes, he's on point

Crisp, succinct answers (not Biden's strong point), relaxed delivery and not punching down. But also firm in his positions. Statesman-like, I'd say.

Overall? A solid performance.

[tblue37]

433. Notice that he always acknowledges when his time is up and stops talking even in the middle of a

sentence. That is a decent, respectable attitude.

[BeyondGeography]

69. Bernie dial it down dude

Sheesh.

[Blue_true]

179. He is doing just what I expected from him. Turn the debate into a bloodbath. nt

[bdamomma]

233. They are

Hyped,great listening to them all.

[hlthe2b]

70. GOOD ON YOU KAMALA!!!!! Great line

America doesn't want a food fight guys they want to know how to put food on the table.

[nolabear]

80. That WAS a good line! She's got a lot of support too.

[Funtatlaguy]

81. Oh snap. Line of the night!

[MustLoveBeagles]

188. It was a great line

[True Dough]

72. Gillibrand is out of control!

Harris just spanked the unruly ones!

[Politicub]

91. She is coming across as unhinged

[Raven123]

138. Unhinged? Did you think the same of DeBlasio?

[Politicub]

201. No. But I would say that about Delaney.

[tulipsandroses]

318. Yeah this is her Howard Dean Moment

I think its over her now

[pangaia]

73. Jesus shut the fuck up...

[TruckFump]

74. And...a shouting match breaks out...and Harris shoots and scores!!!!!!

[Goodheart]

89. She's leading so far.

[TruckFump]

109. She certainly has a presence and stands out..

..good answers, too.

I am torn at this point between Warren and Harris.

[Miles Archer]

131. YES SHE IS...I agree with you 100%.

I'm getting the same vibe from her that I got from Elizabeth Warren last night...focused, confident, fully prepared.

[George II]

76. This is getting stupid, six people talking at once. I don't think I can watch much more.

[R B Garr]

102. I've been thinking the same thing. It's too fragmented

and just shouting. Ugh, horrible format.

[still_one]

197. I am not watching George, but if that is what is happening the mods aren't doing their job

[ConstanceCee]

243. Really Not Good

I really liked that last night this talking over each other didn't happen very much. I wish they would tone it down and not argue. They can discuss more when there are fewer of them.

[ecstatic]

77. LOL @ Sanders shouting down Swallwell AND Gillibrand. nt

[Tipperary]

145. He just cannot stop the hand waving, can he?

I can barely stand to hear him.

[Goodheart]

79. Bernie is the big loser so far.

Kamala is in her element. She's SHINING.

[hlthe2b]

98. I think Yank and Gillibrand are the losers right now... Bernie maybe. Kamala is shining

[a kennedy]

82. OMGAWD.....we don't need a food fight

we need to put food on the table....

[Bradshaw3]

83. It took a woman to restore order

Good job Kamala!

[MrsCoffee]

88. That was excellent!

[Tipperary]

130. Excellent!

She is fantastic.

[emmaverybo]

84. Sanders too angry sounding. Kamala very cool intervention and making her point. Prosecutorial

cool and skill shows.

[highplainsdem]

85. "America does not want to witness a food fight" - kudos to Kamala!

[Amimnoch]

92. Really! She slammed that one out of the park!

Suspect this is going to become a full on meme, and one of the most talked about highlights coming out of this (so far at least).

[onetexan]

87. KAMALA'S FOOD FIGHT REMARK LOL

Quite a heated debate.

[Politicub]

105. She should moderate AND be on the stage

She makes the media talking heads look like empty suits.

[Takket]

90. Kamala is killing it

[Goodheart]

111. Indeed.

[sprinkleeninow]

136. She's impressing me more and more, not just tonite, but as a guest on shows. eom

[Demsrule86]

93. Biden is doing well.

[nolabear]

100. He's doing okay. But there's a lot of energy there.

He won’t run away with this.

[Demsrule86]

150. I think he has scored points already.

[onetexan]

104. yep, loved his rebut to Swalwell

[ecstatic]

94. I'm so proud of Kamala tonight. nt

[Sunsky]

129. Same here

Wow. She is awesome. She is very calm and respectful unlike Gillibrand.

[ucrdem]

97. Harris raised her hand to abolish private insurance, not good

[treestar]

108. What's not good?

Hand raising?

[ucrdem]

112. abolishing private health insurance

That's most people's insurance

[dawg day]

267. It's not actually "private" insurance

I had real private insurance = an individual policy-- before ACA-- $1100 a month and covered very little.

GROUP insurance from our employers is what many working people have (not by any means all-- low wage employees often do not get this benefit). (And many millions of us are on government insurance== Medicare, Medicaid, ACA.)

Group insurance is generally subsidized by the employers. We all want to keep it because we know we're probably paying only 25% to 50% of the real cost. If we had truly private insurance where we bore the entire cost and had to find and buy our own insurance, we wouldn't like it much, I think.

There's a good argument to be made that US companies are at a great disadvantage to European and Canadian companies because those have national insurance. And employees are too (though we do get it subsidized, which is nice), because when we leave our job, we lose our insurance. This is not a system without flaws and problems.

A real overhaul of the healthcare system might require an end to employer-subsidized insurance eventually. I'd like that to be gradual, but we can't really go on forever having so many of us on the brink of losing our insurance when we lose our jobs. A lifelong policy would be a lot better in the long-run.

Gradual is good. But employer-subsidized insurance is a mixed blessing, certainly for the country as a whole.

[True Dough]

99. Not that I care all that much

But if I were Marianne Williamson, I'd be a tad pissed off by now.

[pangaia]

103. GILLIBRAND, "MY TURN !" she yells !!

That does it.

Shut up. JUst shut up.
You are my senator and you are an embarrassment..

[dalton99a]

114. She's turning it into a clusterfuck

[Comatose Sphagetti]

117. This

nt

[dem4decades]

128. I can only think of Al Franken when I look at her. And I liked Al just to let you know.

[dalton99a]

133. +1.

[Honeycombe8]

423. +1+1. nt

[The empressof all]

134. Ugh...she is just coming across as shrill and unlikeable isn't she

I don't think she is a potentially strong contender for the nomination and she is showing why she will fail. Kamala is doing great and Biden is doing better than I thought he would. Would like more time for Pete.

[Raven123]

172. How would you describe DeBlasio last night?

[MustLoveBeagles]

205. I know this wasn't directed at me

I know this wasn't directed at me but I did find DeBlasio unhinged last night.

[The empressof all]

284. He was rude, pompous desperate and assholish....

I recognize that Shrill to describe a woman speaking out of turn can be framed as a sexist moniker however those words personally are not offensive to me if the shoe fits.

The interrupting and speaking over each other is not helpful to the discussion and makes those involved in that behavior look ineffectual.

[onetexan]

385. same here; Gillibrand's constant interruptions is really annoying

i thought Pete has been getting alot more time than some of the others.

[Miles Archer]

160. There's no way she walks away from this "looking good."

Her whole attitude is in desperate need of adjustment. This is not how you display the qualities needed to become President of the United States.

And the "MY TURN!!!!" thing was a complete turn-off.

[highplainsdem]

106. Sanders looks like he's ready to wrestle his podium to the floor, then tackle the cameras.

Really looking way too angry tonight. And bellowing.

[onetexan]

116. yes, same old angry uncle B

all answers have one denominator with him: wall street

[TruckFump]

122. Yep, he sure does look like he is ready to chew something or someone to the floor.

[ucrdem]

142. scary.

[pangaia]

166. He always lookslike that. :)))

[Blue_true]

234. Wow, what a description. nt

[Raven123]

115. Williamson may have to shoot off a flare to get noticed in this crowd

[madaboutharry]

120. She tried to say something

and Lester Holt ignored her.

[dalton99a]

121. She's thinking about her next book

[ecstatic]

123. Pete B is doing great too. He will be an explainer in chief

one day. Maybe not next year but certainly in the next 10 to 15 years.

[ucrdem]

125. Biden: build on Obamacare, best line of the night

[onetexan]

127. Build on OBAMACARE - Yes JOE!!!!

[R B Garr]

132. Biden with an excellent answer about the urgency of

building on Obamacare.

No unrealistic BS.

[emmaverybo]

159. Did well with that. Backed popular program with personals. Showed concern about urgency.

[R B Garr]

194. +1. His follow-up with that was great-- anyone not focused on

maintaining the existing system is not realistic (forgot the exact wording).

[onetexan]

414. +1

[TruckFump]

137. Bernie is correct on insurance companies.

But he needs to stop yelling!!!!

[tblue37]

448. I think you mean HE NEEDS TO STOP YELLING! (You need to get him to hear you.)

I like Bernie, and I supported him in the 2016 primaries (HRC in the GE, of course). I am glad he pushed the party to the left and got so many of my issues into the conversation.

I think he deserves credit for a lot of the party's and the country's movement to the left.

But now I think he would do more good by supporting Warren and encouraging his supporters to do so as well, and, if EW doesn't get nominated, he needs to enthusiastically support the nominee, whoever it is. (If not Warren, then I'd love to see Harris as the nominee.)

[BeyondGeography]

141. Bernie needs to fire the guy who pees in his corn flakes each morning

It’s just a bad way to start the day and you end up screaming by the end of it.

[ucrdem]

153. Marianne is ready for late night radio

[frazzled]

209. I finally just had to mute the volume

when he started yelling again. I didn’t have to that at all last night.

In fact, too many are yelling tonight. It is, like Kamala said, a food fight.

[emmaverybo]

143. Bernie sounding and looking too militant, inflexible. It's not just substance, but also style that

registers with audience.

[JohnnyLib2]

144. Crotchety Uncle Bernie--

and he has the biggest Millennial following. How so?

[nolabear]

146. Bernie isn't doing anything new. I'm surprised he can't do it better.

He’s not explaining in any way how he’ll do Medicare for all.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

167. Yup, he just rants and can't actually explain how he'd implement MFA.

[Cha]

225. I'm not.

[madaboutharry]

147. I can't stand the yelling.

[TruckFump]

155. Being firm is one thing...

...but the yelling is totally annoying.

[bdamomma]

332. I think

we don't need to yell, just have a discussion, that's the media they want a effing horse race.

Hey this is serious time we need to hear calm thought out plans. Oh Rachel and Yuk Chuckie Todd are next.

[R B Garr]

148. Sorry Sanders, but we're not giving up our UNION benefits

for empty promises.

[emmaverybo]

180. Not giving up my Medicare plus program. Costs me zero. Lots of other retirees have it and

worked for it! I do not want to be on Medicare alone.

[58Sunliner]

149. Buttigeig nailed healthcare, so did Joe.

[Honeycombe8]

168. I missed it (had to let the dog out). Darn. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

173. Yes, they both did very well.

[MANative]

151. Bernie' s finger-pointing is as annoying as Trump's accordion hands. Nt

[True Dough]

154. Okay, I've heard enough from Williamson now

[dem4decades]

176. She sounds like someone on SNL from years ago, I can't place it though.

[True Dough]

222. Roseanne Roseannadanna perhaps?

[dem4decades]

420. I think that's it.

[Lotusflower70]

443. Except

I would rather hear Roseanne Roseannadanna.

[tblue37]

450. Jane Curtin? nt

[Dream Girl]

297. I like her!

She has a different sort of message. She’s right about a lot of things...

[True Dough]

310. I sense conspiracy theorist is lurking

just under the surface.

[Dream Girl]

319. Maybe. Some conspiracies are real.

And just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you!

[True Dough]

324. I'll keep looking over my shoulder and sleeping with one eye open!

Thanks!

[Dream Girl]

328. De nada

As the mayor would say

[Bradshaw3]

156. Williamson is embarrasing

Not unexpected.

[TruckFump]

163. Totally cringing for her.

She needs to go back to being an author.

[hlthe2b]

164. YUP

[Takket]

169. what the fuck is she doing up there?

never heard of her. my wife told me she was a nut and it sounds like it. asking why we have some many people with chronic illnesses? it is SICK PERSONS fault we have a health care crisis???????????

[dem4decades]

185. And the Montana Governor couldn't get up there? WTF?

[emmaverybo]

198. No business whatsoever. No qualifications or experience. NT

[Bradshaw3]

237. I imagine she would say it is their fault

Isn't that the point of "The Secret" or whatever bullshit she believes. That people's negative energies cause their problems, not things like, you know, viruses, untreated water, etc.

[tblue37]

451. She is a cheesy "spritual" self help guru. But people do love that stuff. That's how she got

rich and famous.

Of course, some people also love Walter Keane prints (I don't):

[McKim]

453. Yes, We Have to Ask......

Yes, we have to ask what could possibly be the purpose of having so many people we didn’t’ even know were running on this program?????? To cut down on the competition for the chosen front runners? Why on earth????

[nolabear]

157. Williamson is doing better than I expected.

I don’t like her but she held up.

[Politicub]

184. She's quite brilliant at rhetoric and messaging

I hope all of the candidates learn from one another.

[aaaaaa5a]

161. Marianne Williamson has no business being up there.

[onetexan]

170. She's putting her name out there to market her books

no political experience and way too opportunistic IMO

[50 Shades Of Blue]

187. ITA. Really pisses me off to see her there.

[Politicub]

171. She's qualified. So she has business being up there.

[hlthe2b]

213. My dog is 35 and native born in dog years, so I guess she is too.

[cannabis_flower]

335. I think Politicub meant

she qualified for a place in the debate. Not that she is over 35 and a citizen.

[hlthe2b]

347. That is my point- She is not qualified for President on any rational basis

No training wheels.

[Honeycombe8]

162. Marianne Williamson! Hello, Girl! Where did you come from? Common sense talk. I'm impressed. nt

[kwassa]

165. Marianne did pretty well.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

186. She started out OK, but then launched into some weird discourse about

the real problem with health care is all those chemicals. Then she fell off the cliff.

[hlthe2b]

199. She sounds like the know-it-all (but know nothing) neighbor at the annual barbeque.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

207. Or the guy at the end of the bar going on about chemtrails.

[hlthe2b]

220. yes....

[kwassa]

252. I thought she made sense.

Talking holistically.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

255. She sounded nuts, just apart from the fact that she didn't answer the question.

[kwassa]

288. I disagree.

[Dream Girl]

307. Agree she made a lot of sense

[emmaverybo]

250. She is wonderful as a popular spiritual voice. Her life lessons and philosophy have had a personal

impact on me. But I don’t care if the Dalai Lama gets up there, just not in any way prepared to
be president of a world power.

[ecstatic]

283. I agree. nt

[elfin]

175. Not watching - I get too agitated

Wake me up when we have a nominee. Then I will sign on big time unless..... our nominee is KG or Williamson, or sad to say, Bombastic Bernie.

I now want Biden/Klobuchar or Castro or possibly Harris with Inslee as Sec. Energy, Warren at Finance/Economy -- so many good choices for a fantastic cabinet.

We HAVE to WIN!!

[Goodheart]

177. Bennett apparently doesn't understand math.

I like him, but I just discarded him as a candidate.

Sure, Canada has fewer people. So bloody what? Really bad argument.

[Ron Green]

181. Williamson made an extremely important point about health

in America. I hope people think about these “upstream” issues.

[BeyondGeography]

182. I'm ready for a commercial

[Hekate]

183. Geez guys, let Kamala talk!

Agh

[dem4decades]

215. Seems like the Bernie Show so far. He's had an incredible about of air time.

[pangaia]

189. I can't stand it any more. I'm out of here.

Enjoy. Maybe the best people hang in there.

[treestar]

190. For a fever why not go to an urgent care clinic?

Why would it cost over 5 K

[RazBerryBeret]

202. i thought the same thing.. n/t

[TruckFump]

212. I paralegal for a personal injury atty.

A visit to the ER after an auto accident? An easy $5K and this is with moderate injuries that do not require hospitalization.

[treestar]

229. I used to do personal injury

Prices increased! They just did X-rays then.

[TruckFump]

268. Then there is the radiologist bill for reading the x-ray, etc.

And they now run lab tests -- standard panels -- and who the hell knows why when someone has a whip lash from a rear-end collision.

I was stunned with the first of these bills I saw when I agreed to help a personal injury litigator after I retired from private practice. I had been out the the biz since 1997 -- retired then -- and I swear the ER bills are now X10 what I recall from way back when.

[mitch96]

438. " I swear the ER bills are now X10 what I recall from way back when."

It's the CYA charge. If you don't go over and above the call of duty you get sued. The patient/insurance company pays the price. Tort reform anyone?
m

[TruckFump]

440. I don't know if that is the answer.

There are some really bad medical providers out there and it seems to protect them over the patients they have injured.

[mitch96]

455. "There are some really bad medical providers out there"

Agree.. I've worked with some real dusies.. Drug addicted, alcohol addicted and just plain incompetent... The medical community will cover up for their own.
m

[TruckFump]

457. Same for the dental community.

I know a DDS that is loaded 90% of the time while doing dental surgery!

He has been reported a ton of times and nothing ever happens.

[mitch96]

458. Don't get me started on the dental community..........

I had one dentist look into my mouth and saw a boat payment a car payment and two alimony payments.. A second opinion from the dental school clinic said there was nothing wrong... All while saying insurance would cover it and in fact it would only cover 1/4 of it. I would have been on the hook for the balance. That was written in the small print at the end of his contract... No thank you... a bunch of thieves if you ask me...
cynical proven by history...
m

[TruckFump]

459. With implants, IMO, much of the dental community has found

their El Dorado, no need for any further search for Gold!!!!

Not all dentists are like that, but E-FREAKING-GADS!!!!!!!!!! I had a neighbor that just paid over $20K for dental work. At the time I was dating a dentist who was devoted to his craft -- charged $35.00 for an office visit in 2017 in LA County!!! And, he volunteered to do dental treatment for the homeless. My dentist pal looked at my neighbor's mouth and it was all he could do to hide his shock.

Total rip off...check out how many dentists live in really pricey areas in LA County like Brentwood. That is an eye opener!!!!

[mitch96]

460. "Total rip off...check out how many dentists live in really pricey areas "

Again, I agree.. That's why I now go to the local dental school clinic. The 4th year students are almost ready to graduate and do all the "leg" work. The work gets reviewed by two dental instructors to evaluate the students work. After working in teaching hospitals for years I feel comfortable with this environment. They are not going to teach someone the way to do bad work. Prices are fair also.
It seems when they get out of school and are "in the field" for a few years they get corrupted with the lure of easy money. Maybe to pay off school loans? Status? who knows..
m

[lovesfruit]

231. In the middle of the night

In the middle of the night, urgent care isn't usually open. And you can't really pick what time your kid gets sick. I've had to take my son to the ER instead of urgent care in the middle of the night and it ended up costing me $1800 with insurance. Urgent care would have been $50, but I didn't think I could wait to have my child seen. And another time my son's daycare called an ambulance and took him to ER. A couple thousand more.

[treestar]

264. Thanks

They are good for weekends but if not open at night only the ER is available.

[Honeycombe8]

340. She was talking about something very serious. Even so, hi deductible....

A hi deductible means that walking thru any medical door means you pay out of pocket up to $4,500 to $6,000. And then maybe a percentage after that (20% to 40%).

[aaaaaa5a]

191. This debate is more aggressive than the other night.

[onetexan]

203. to be expected. Most of the debaters are alpha personalities

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

217. And they also observed that the moderators couldn't control the candidates.

[onetexan]

227. don't get me started, can't stand savannah guthrie

[sprinkleeninow]

196. Man, go Pete! 😍

[TruckFump]

200. Mayor Pete --- great on the immigrant medical issue.

[True Dough]

208. Nice to hear Joe confirm that Pete had so much right.

[nolabear]

214. It was. It was a good point.

[sprinkleeninow]

210. The moderators.... Oy. 😏

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

244. The moderators should be able to cut their mikes when they interrupt,

go over their time, or yell.

[ConstanceCee]

336. Not Much Longer

They're about to change moderators, aren't they? How much will Chuck Todd talk tonight?

[ucrdem]

216. Biden: good points on immigrants contributing to SS and taxes

[nolabear]

218. PLEASE GO TO THE SECOND THREAD

[htuttle]

240. Go here for Thread #2

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287171169

[highplainsdem]

223. Biden's looking good tonight. Relaxed, fit, and looking younger than his actual age.

Comes across particularly well next to Sanders.

[onetexan]

235. yes, Joe seems in control of himself and respectable, contrary to Bernie

[Goodheart]

224. So far it's Harris, Buttegieg, Biden

Sanders is the big loser because everybody else is attacking him.

Gillebrand and Swalwell have been rude.

Hickenlooper has been invisible.

Williamson has been weird.

Bennett has been unconvincing.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

238. Sanders is the big loser because, as usual, he just yells and doesn't have an explanation

for how he'd actually get his programs enacted and functioning.

[aaaaaa5a]

232. Biden seems off to me.

He is stumbling. Poor grammar. Mispronouncing words. Maybe it’s just me.

[onetexan]

245. seems he was trying to fit his last answer when time was up

his previous answers were well delivered

[UniteFightBack]

248. I think he is trying to be reserved...,not fuck anything up too bad and escape the evening. nt

[FloridaBlues]

291. Think Biden doing well in answering

[emmaverybo]

258. He is holding. Rehearsal shows. Not his format but so far not hurting himself. NT

[aaaaaa5a]

262. Agreed. He has a lead. And he knows it.

[emmaverybo]

325. Main task is to not screw up his lead and to maintain. So far, so good. Subdued, but still

competitive. Also, not being overwhelming. He’s on a tight leash. He has to be.

[crazytown]

236. My take so far - I don't want to hear from Gilliband

or Swalwell again.

[aaaaaa5a]

247. Gillibrand has been terrible.

[crazytown]

256. When Joe started laughing at Swalwell ...

[bdamomma]

424. She was too

loud, and I still don't particularly like what she did to Sen. Franken.

Kamala, Biden, Mayor Pete, Bennett, were good, Bernie was Bernie.

[Miles Archer]

239. THANK CHRIST...a COMMERCIAL BREAK.

This is a train wreck with a few good, isolated moments.

[dem4decades]

249. Thank god it wasn't for a drug company, the timing would have been very awkward.

[True Dough]

259. Ha ha!

No Viagra ad either, please!

[dem4decades]

263. That's the Republican debate.

[Cha]

270. lol.. I'm not watching.. just reading DU.

[bronxiteforever]

246. Harris is on fire!

[Miles Archer]

254. Yeah, this is clearly HER night

She's presidential...this has got to give her a boost.

[dem4decades]

257. To me I think she would tear Trump up in a one on one debate. Her more than any other so far.

[bronxiteforever]

265. I agree.

[Lotusflower70]

446. True that

I agree 100%. She would nail his ass to the wall.

[tblue37]

452. Warren would, too. Warren and Harris are super smart and articulate. So is Buttigieg.

I think Buttigieg needs a few more years and political seasoning to convince the typical American voters, especially since there is so much prejudice that he would need to overcome. But he would maybe be a good VP candidate, or maybe a senator or representative.

[TruckFump]

272. Totally agree. EOM

[underpants]

253. 👀

Thanks I was busy. Couldn't start a thread.

[True Dough]

266. This isn't baseball, ya know!

But some candidates are trying to hit it out of the park!

[Cousin Dupree]

260. Kamala is killing it

[Honeycombe8]

261. Williamson strikes again. She has a few things to say, and they're spot on. Good job. nt

[58Sunliner]

286. Agreed.

[sprinkleeninow]

329. She did. I had not been familiar with much about her. eom

[Honeycombe8]

269. Harris is on her game tonight. Good job. nt

[emmaverybo]

273. Kamala, no one else has brought up Latin American policy?! Read Biden's op-Ed. He was the first

to and cogently.

[AkFemDem]

274. I'm officially a convert. Kamala Harris for president! Nt

[aaaaaa5a]

275. So far tonight... Harris is the clear winner

Biden is second because nobody’s touched him.

Everyone else has had a rough night.

[TheSocialDem]

276. Bernie by a mile so far nt.

[BeyondGeography]

277. Looks like Beto loaned Pete his 5 o'clock shadow

Pete’s having a better night though.

[Honeycombe8]

278. Buttigieg - damn he's great! Love him. He's ready for prime time, seems to me. nt

[osmium]

279. Kamala..

..and Pete. Or Pete and Kamala. Biden looks flat compared to.these youngsters. Pete just killed it on immigration.

[Goodheart]

280. Buttegieg goes there! Attacks religious hypocrisy!

Harris, Buttegieg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sprinkleeninow]

290. Mayor Pete gave this Christian goose bumps. 😍

[Honeycombe8]

302. Buttigieg hit the religious hyposcrsy, all right. Great job. Eloquently said. nt

[CanonRay]

317. Loved that answer...big whoop whoop

[58Sunliner]

281. Joe tried to not raise his hand, lol in response to the decriminalization border crossing question.

[apcalc]

282. Harris on fire, Biden average, Williamson very interesting

[crazytown]

287. Harris on fire, Biden average, Williamson very interesting

Gillibrand losing.

[TruckFump]

293. Ditto on Gillibrand. EOM

[Honeycombe8]

294. Agree. nt

[TruckFump]

285. Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo....Biden on the migrant children!!!

[emmaverybo]

295. Excellent. Sharp, to the point, and gets the past in to the future as to a whole different

approach.

[crazytown]

298. Fire in the belly

Doesn't sound too sleepy to me

[onetexan]

301. yes, both Kamala & Joe are spot on re: the migrant children

But it seems they all feel the same way re: reversing the horrible situation at the border.

[TruckFump]

309. Good job by both Biden and Harris on this subject! EOM

[Honeycombe8]

289. The migrant children...we all feel the same. Buttigieg expressed it beautifully....

He brought up the Repubs cloaking themselves in religion and doing this to migrant children. Excellent point.

[TheSocialDem]

292. Bernie winning so far. Nt.

[nolabear]

296. Hardly. But his last point was good.

[BeyondGeography]

299. No one can touch him on volume

[dem4decades]

300. Sorry but Harris is killing it.

[crazytown]

303. Spam

[TheSocialDem]

323. Hey I think warren won night one

[crazytown]

330. If you think Bernie is winning

that fine by me. we can agree to disagree,

[TheSocialDem]

337. He's said the most with his time

[AkFemDem]

308. No he isn't. Am at a watch party and consensus is this has been all...

Harris. Everyone’s finished with both Joe and Bernie.

[TheSocialDem]

331. I'm in a watching party of one and we are also all in agreement

[aaaaaa5a]

339. You can't be serious.

[applegrove]

305. Bernie and Biden have the energy of the younger candidates around them if not

more. I was worried with his "he did not call me boy" comments Biden was losing it. He's not.

[crazytown]

312. 'sleepy joe'

[Honeycombe8]

314. Biologically, a 70 yr old does not have the energy of a 40 or 50 year old.

But they can exert themselves to make it appear so for short periods of time. There's a reason you don't see 70 year old baseball players.

[applegrove]

333. I meant their personalities were more vigourous. Granted they have

both been speaking on the stump for 50 years.

[Honeycombe8]

346. Oh. Never mind.

[True Dough]

306. Kamala with the jab at Joe/Obama on immigration deportation

It was a respectful swing. Fair game.

[aaaaaa5a]

315. If someone is here illegally. They are committing

Crime. We are going to pay for that in the GE.

[crazytown]

316. Yang's inexperience is showing

[Honeycombe8]

326. Oh, geez. I didn't even realize he's on the stage.

I guess I was distracted when he spoke, and missed it.

[CanonRay]

311. I love Warren

but Kamala! Sweet Jesus she's good. Kick ass. I love them all.

[crazytown]

322. I've been waiting for this Kamala to show up

was starting to give up on her.

[58Sunliner]

320. The constant reliance on emotionalism by Kamala is coming across as contrived. IMO.

[emmaverybo]

342. She is a persuasive, skilled, appealing and forceful speaker with great animation. She does not

have the political or experiential chops for GE, yet. She is pushing. But that is what she has to do.

[58Sunliner]

426. I think she is all of that.

I think she would benefit from not making every issue an emotional anecdote and focus more on policy.

[emmaverybo]

432. Going to serve her, the personal and passionate appeal, in the future. She has got it all going. I

would love to see her climb. Have seen her toy like a cat with a mouse in hearings, when not using the personal. But this debate format not kind to extended personal narrative approach. Still, I think she gained tonight.

[58Sunliner]

454. I think she gained too. But asking questions in a hearing that go nowhere is not a plus IMO.

What may not serve her is that she planned the Biden showdown and then releases a t-shirt last night on twitter, That little girl was me. I think it risks backfiring on her.
https://store.kamalaharris.org/that-little-girl-was-me-unisex-black/

[hlthe2b]

352. Could not disagree more

[onetexan]

354. i beg to differ. It shows her impassioned stance on the issues impacting Americans

and a darn strong and effective communicator. Her impressive experience as a US attorney clearly shining thru.

[SCantiGOP]

327. Drag Gillibrand and Swalwell off the stage

Can’t understand how being obnoxious and interrupting is a debate strategy.

[crazytown]

338. +1000

geez

[dem4decades]

344. As long as Chuck Todd goes too.

[bdamomma]

436. Chuckie

he has to go. Glad Rachel is there.

[emmaverybo]

348. Oh, yes. Sad about Swalwell. But he is well placed doing what he does, and we need him doing

it.

[R B Garr]

359. Yup, just one of the many problems with this format.

Non candidates just lobbing inflammatory retorts. Just lobbed one at Mayor Pete.

Shouting free for all, very ineffective format.

[Honeycombe8]

349. Buttigieg talks about the hot issue (police shooting) going on in his city.

A risky topic for him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

361. I thought he handled the question very well.

[Honeycombe8]

364. I thought so, too. nt

[True Dough]

350. Pete OWNS his issues

This is leadership. He isn't backing away from his Achilles heel. I respect the hell out of him.

[crazytown]

351. Pete's take down of GOP 'Christianity'

'I don't want to hear religious language from them again'

[Honeycombe8]

353. Hickenlooper is doing pretty well. I've never heard him speak before.

I can tell he was a Governor or executive.

[onetexan]

367. yes, loved the example he gave of his mother being separated from her parents

that was quite effective in driving the point home re: how criminal what this current administration's actions are.

[Honeycombe8]

378. +1. nt

[UniteFightBack]

355. I notice Pete had his hair fixed...good nt

[Honeycombe8]

357. He did? I didn't notice. I'll have to look up prior pics. nt

[emmaverybo]

358. Buttigieg wins on answering this question about police, not put soft-ball to him. Excellent and

no blaming. End line was great.

[Honeycombe8]

360. Uh-oh...Harris directs comments to Biden about the segregationists. nt

[dem4decades]

362. Biden takes a hit

[osmium]

363. No more than 8 after another month

That's my prediction.

As to which 8, I have a list 😁

My mom(82 YO) just called me raving about Pete. A month ago she didn't know who he was.

It's pretty spirited, that's for sure.

[kwassa]

365. Kamala was bussed to school.

[Takket]

366. Kamala is a tiger. going right at Biden, no fear.

[onetexan]

371. well she was great up until she turned on Biden on this segrationists' issue. She's taking his words

out of context. Joe's doing a darn good job rebutting her though.

[dem4decades]

376. She's tearing him a new asshole. He's responding very forcefully. Both impressive.

[Honeycombe8]

368. Biden strikes back at Harris' "attack" re busing and segregationists.Uncomfortable topic for both.nt

[onetexan]

380. she's getting way too emotional now :(

showing a little lack of self control. Not impressive IMO. Joe on the other hand kept his restraint and self control in his well thought out answers rebutting her.

[Honeycombe8]

384. Maybe. But it's an emotional topic for her. She's no more emotional than Castro was.

Some topics are personal to people. Obama got teary eyed a few times. Emotion is okay, up to a point.

[R B Garr]

370. Biden: I was a public defender , not a prosecutor.

Boom!

[emmaverybo]

386. Kool. Somewhat manipulative her poking him on this, using herself as an example. He had a

good and accurate response. Stop the you shot my dog and all dogs, Biden tactic. Oh, oh, Todd is getting to him.

[MoonchildCA]

372. My dream ticket tonight:

Harris/Buttigieg.

My dream ticket from last night: Warren/Castro.

I’m still open though and want to watch things play out for a bit. We have a lot of great candidates. I can’t wait for the field to narrow.

[Honeycombe8]

373. Harris was wrong in her statement that Biden was against busing overall.

He was against it being a federal mandate. Harris was bused because it was her local govt who did it, which was fine w/Biden.

[emmaverybo]

374. OK he knew this was coming. Biden, are you listening? But Biden is not responsible for the body

camera problem. I do not think bussing integrated at a societal level. Don’t let her rattle you.

[Honeycombe8]

383. I thought Biden held his own on that attack. Harris had a fact or two wrong. nt

[sprinkleeninow]

390. Tonite this debate is making me feel discombobulated.eom

[DesertRat]

377. Kamala is a strong debater. Imagine her taking on DT!

[redstateblues]

381. She lost points on her unhinged rant

[DesertRat]

415. "unhinged rant"?!

She is everything DT is not:

Super Smart, empathetic, knowledgeable, eloquent, adult, sane, not a racist or misogynist.

I think that her so-called "rant" was her being passionate and eloquent.

[Honeycombe8]

379. Bernie's up again. Diversity. Middle income worker making same as he did years ago.

This is SO TRUE. The system is rigged against the common person.

[TheSocialDem]

382. Biden stopping himself from finishing his point doesn't

Come across well. Just saying. Hope he wouldn’t do that agains trump.

[Takket]

387. Bennet: Gridlock will not end in washington as long as McConnell is there

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voters need to know that winnnig the Senate and hopefully voting out mcconnell is a VERY VERY close second to defeating drumpf

[aaaaaa5a]

388. Chuck Todd is so impressed with the Turtle man

He must have a poster of him up in his office.

[onetexan]

392. can't stand Chuck Todd

[kwassa]

389. I met Marianne about 30 years ago.

She looks younger now.

I think she's had some help.

[Honeycombe8]

391. Biden's in fighting mode, now. Feeling his stride. Is that Bennett he's debating with? I think so.

Bennett - good points.

[dem4decades]

393. I like Bennett but he sounds like Bill Murray, which I kind of like but not against Trump

[emmaverybo]

394. Gawd. Get the hook on Gildebrand. Awful. NT

[Honeycombe8]

396. Somewhere, Franken is smiling. nt

[betsuni]

401. Shouting, shaking her finger, angry, money out of politics, corruption, lobbyists.

Hmmmm. Reminds me of someone.

[Honeycombe8]

395. Rachel asking Bernie about Roe v. Wade. Oooooh. nt

[onetexan]

399. uhh...Gillibrand was all over the place, everything jumbled together like a word salad

[Honeycombe8]

408. Wasn't she, tho. Pretty eyes aren't everything, I guess. nt

[emmaverybo]

397. Not Bernie's night. Bad personality. Over aggressive, wound too tight, devoid of warmth. Could

have the greatest arguments and plans, but abrasive personality makes for bad sell.

[Honeycombe8]

398. Climate change is up. (Chuck Todd) nt

[Mme. Defarge]

402. Gawd she's awful!!!

After the injury and insult of Trump, I don’t think I could bear listening to Kristin Gillibrand for the length of a campaign and beyond.

[Honeycombe8]

427. I knew who you were referring to before reading your post. lol. nt

[onetexan]

403. Damn good answer from Kamala re: trump being the greatest threat to democracy

[Honeycombe8]

404. Buttigieg - good broad answer re solutions for climate change. nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

405. Remarkable question Rachel "what do you do as prez if Roe overturned" nobody answered it

and she asked Sanders and of course he didnt.

Not sure what a good answer is though.

GREAT ?

[Honeycombe8]

406. She only asked Bernie, tho. Touchy question, so the others wouldn't touch it I guess. nt

[Honeycombe8]

409. Biden - great climate change answer. nt

[onetexan]

413. i'm loving it!! Joe's answer is spot on re: how to get around blocking GOPs

his mention of what Obama admin did was great - wind farms, education of renewable energy, etc.

[Honeycombe8]

421. Yes. I THOUGHT I remembered that Obama had done more than one thing re climate change.

He also increased mpg requirements, tax credits for renewable energy improvements to buildings.

[Honeycombe8]

410. Bernie, climate change. "The older ways are no longer enough." Great point. nt

[emmaverybo]

411. Love the coaches. They told Biden to stick to three things. Great tactic. He's still sharp! Good

discipline, Joe. No humor asides, rambling, and stayed out of the melee. Oh, dear Gawd, Williamson.

[onetexan]

430. yes, he's doing a darn good job staying on message and not slipping up w/ gaffes

made me all the more convinced he's the one to kick the Idiot out of the WH

[Honeycombe8]

412. Swalwell keeps saying "Pass the torch to the generation that will be affected by climate change."

Great pt.

[onetexan]

416. JOE: DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP as 1st thing to get done

WOOHOO!!!

[emmaverybo]

419. +1

[Honeycombe8]

417. Ea candidate: Yur #1 issue if you could have only one after taking office....

Swalwell....guns
Bennett.... missed it
Gillibrand....a long list (can't follow instructions)
Harris...a long list (can't follow instructions)
Bernie.... a list (can't follow instructions)
Biden.... talks about Todd's comments understating Obama's climate change accomplishments (then his #1 issue...beating Trump)
Buttigieg...missed it
Yang....I didn't understand it
Hickenlooper....climate change
Williamson....call to PM of New Zealand...don't know why

[emmaverybo]

422. Lol. Great notes. NT

[emmaverybo]

418. Oh soooooh bad Bernie. Good Biden on clapping back at Todd and getting the most pressing

issue out there: Get rid of Trump. That’s a firstie.

[Honeycombe8]

429. I liked Buttigieg's "gun" answer. He's the only one w/military experience. nt

[StevieM]

431. The NRA is not our enemy?

I can't believe that Biden just took that position.

[Honeycombe8]

435. Ooooh...I missed that...getting a beverage. Shoots. (pun intended) nt

[onetexan]

437. what he means is NRA works FOR the gun manufacturers, as someone else posted in another thread

so ridding gun manufacturers should be first and foremost. Get the greed money out and the NRA will fold.

[bdamomma]

445. I wasn't too happy about that

but the NRA is eating its own.

[DesertRat]

434. Sanders: "That's a mischaracterization of what I said." Maddow: "It's a direct quote."

[Honeycombe8]

439. Rachel mischaracterize someone? Bwahahahaha. Would never happen. nt

[Honeycombe8]

442. Buttigieg's final statement. Wonderful. Can't help it....I love him.

[bdamomma]

447. I like listening to him

he's going places.

[sheshe2]

444. Bernie's summary.

Nothing changes, same line. Wall Street, etc.

[UniqueUserName]

449. Final thoughts

I went in as a 52 yo GWM Harris supporter. I came out a Harris supporter.

Lord have mercy! That first segment was a food fight!

I'm still a Harris supporter. I was impressed with Mayor Pete. I'd definitely vote for Biden. I'd even vote for the crazy author. Gillibrand----I don't know---might stay home----game over-----good bye democracy.

It's funny how everyone in the first night was electable.