Per Chris Matthews: Biden's team says Harris is doing "exactly what Trump wants."

[pnwmom]

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Sounds like an over-reaction to me.

The second tweet is by a senior advisor to Biden and it might be at the root of this story. The advisor gets a key thing wrong, however; Harris wasn't criticizing Biden for working with Eastland/Talmudge on the Voting Rights Act. It was for his work with them on the anti-busing bill.

Link to tweet

Jamil Smith
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@JamilSmith
The @JoeBiden team said that @KamalaHarris is “doing exactly what Trump wants,” per MSNBC. Fails on two levels. First, he doesn’t want a charismatic black candidate telling the truth about racism. Second, the idea Trump wants Biden out of the race, after tonight, seems laughable.


(Jamil Smith writes for Rolling Stone.)

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1144428987596324865&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F1287173608

Let’s get real. @JoeBiden fought for civil rights for his entire life. He started his career as a public defender. To attack him because he worked to convince Repubs (yes, some with horrible views) to vote for the Voting Rights Act is outrageous and is exactly what Trump wants.

[JoeOtterbein]

1. Sounds like loser to me.

Edit: to clarify; I mean Biden lost tonight.

[Cha]

46. I'm sure it does..

Link to tweet

[comradebillyboy]

99. Isn't that interesting?

But Kamala did dominate tonight. And she had to.

[mcar]

130. Thanks for clarifying that, Cha

[Cha]

131. Thank you for the shout out, mcar!

[Demsrule86]

2. I will say this.Watch the polls Harris did herself no favors tonight.

[Raine]

55. I agree

in the long run I think she will have hurt herself.

[Demsrule86]

121. People like fairness...so much she could have brought up to Biden that were legitimate issues.

Busing isn't one of them...If she plans on running on busing in the 21st century...she is the one out of step.

[comradebillyboy]

101. We will see, but I thought she did very well.

Biden needs to up his game a bit in my opinion.

[Demsrule86]

120. Watch the polls, I could be wrong but outside of the media, I don't see much movement her way.

She hurt herself where a general is concerned too...which brings back the question...is she electable?

[tblue37]

106. Why? nt

[Demsrule86]

119. I don't think she did...she basically called Biden a racist which is untrue...she did nothing to put

to rest the fear that she is unelectable...She took policy positions like MFA which will hurt her in any general. I would not vote for her in a primary now...general of course but not a primary.

[mcar]

132. Disagree.

She clearly won the debate. She caught Biden flat-footed, which should not have happened. He should have been prepared.

I hope Biden learns from this. But to say that Harris did herself no favors? Do you think Castro did himself a favor Wed night by challenging O'Rourke?

[Demsrule86]

138. She may have 'won' he debate (I though the busing thing was contrived) but she didn't win over

voters in my opinion.

[Demsrule86]

139. No one likes pre-planned attacks...and on busing? Give me a break...did you watch. I thought

Biden did fine. My thinking is she will not be the nominee nor a VP>

[TheBlackAdder]

144. Of course, there's no bias or anything with that post. 😂

[BeyondGeography]

3. Really?

Sheesh.

[JoeOtterbein]

9. What the hell does "grow up" mean? nt

[RHMerriman]

19. It means this is war, not whining...

It means this is war, not whining...

Americans are dying because of Trump's Administration, he's treasonous, his appointees and staff are all crooks, and the fire needs to be focused and sharp.

Attack actions, not words. Children complain about insults; adults fight over realities.

She's falling behind and needed to take a shot. Big deal.

She can complain all she wants about Trump's words, and NO ONE will change their vote.

Criticize his actions, and offer a better alternative.

Whining about language is just ... whining.

[pnwmom]

12. Children don't talk like that. She responded appropriately.

A child would have said, "You were mean." But she gave him the benefit of the doubt. She didn't attribute any bad intentions to him, and she sincerely meant that.

She merely described to him the effect of his words on her -- and many others. This is a very adult way of explaining to someone a mistake they just unintentionally made.

[RHMerriman]

26. For god's sake... fight over deeds, not words...

For god's sake... fight over deeds, not words...

Whining about language? And she was a prosecutor?

Weak.

[Perseus]

38. That is what Harris was doing, pointing out Biden's deeds

Biden will not beat the buffoon, not sure why many cannot see that. The buffoon wants Biden to be the nominee, not sure why people cannot see that either.

The buffoon uses reverse psychology all the time, and this is one of them, he really wants Biden, he knows he can defeat Biden.

[RHMerriman]

48. The buffoon wants Bernie to be the nominee...

The buffoon wants Bernie to be the nominee...

Biden is hardly perfect, but you know what he brings to the table?

Normalcy.

Stability.

Comity (whether actual or perceived).

Trump's greatest weakness is how fucking tired Americans are of his actions and antics, and the fact that he was and is an insurgent.

Trump knows Biden knows the system; he knows where the bodies are buried, and how the sausage gets made.

Trump does NOT want to face Biden.

[UniteFightBack]

53. He knows he can defeat Biden...oh rump the all seeing and all powerful. PLEASE. nt

[Demsrule86]

122. I really disagree...and it was so contrived...with a picture just waiting to be released...I think

she will regret this.

[mcar]

134. This exactly

[PatrickforO]

23. I'm definitely going to have to disagree with you here.

Both my wife and I thought Harris the clear winner of the debate tonight. She'd eat Trump alive in a debate because she's a tough-as-nails prosecutor.

And...what the hell is wrong with saying someone's words are hurtful? You think Trump's are not? You think the white supremacists, nazis and kluxers aren't hurtful? You think ripping kids from their mothers' arms and sticking them in concentration camps isn't hurtful?

No, Harris took Biden down a few notches. Didn't you see his head whip around when she said, "and I was that little girl?"

And the food fight comment - that won the debate and may well propel her to the nomination.

[RHMerriman]

34. Tough as nails prosecutor?

Prosecutors argue the facts - not feelings, or emotion, or "hurtful words..."

And Trump, Putin, Kim and every other world leader a US president faces doesn't give a shit about "feelings."

They respect strength - sometimes logic.

But "your words were hurtful"?

Give me a break.

[PatrickforO]

44. Sorry, but 'give me a fucking break' is over the top.

You don't get to talk to me or anyone else on here like this.

You're welcome to your opinion, and I to mine. But I don't owe you a fucking thing, let alone a break. Just leave it.

[RHMerriman]

54. Sorry, but I want a fighter taking on Trump...

Sorry, but I want a fighter taking on Trump... someone who fights over ISSUES and ACTIONS, not "hurtful words"...

Not words. Harris is in single digits with AA voters. Biden is a 46 percent; even Sanders is ahead of her.

This was calculated and contrived.

Hail Mary, at best.

[PatrickforO]

59. Fair enough. We'll see how it plays out. n/t

[RHMerriman]

64. True statement

True statement.

I've voted for her. I'll vote for her again if she's the nominee, obviously.

But for god's sake, I don't want Democratic candidates to present themselves as "victims" who complain about their "feelings."

I want someone who will gut Trump based on realities - not "hurtful" words.

[R B Garr]

129. I totally agree with you. Harris has blunted whatever

real and present attacks on Trump’s racisim by calling a Democrat a racist. Especially for something from 40 years ago.

And she tee’d it up by misrepresenting his points about segregationists. Booker also lost credibility that way.

[Demit]

135. She clearly said, "I don't think you're a racist."

When she said, I'm going to direct this now to Vice President Biden, she prefaced what she said with "I don't think you're a racist."

It's on video, for god's sake.

[R B Garr]

136. Her accusations revealed what she was after, not the artificial

premise. For God’s sake.

[marylandblue]

66. I'm sure she never said, "your words were hurtful" to a criminal and will never say that to Trump.

But to another Democrat, for a Democratic audience, that's an appropriate way to criticize someone and not whining at all.

[RHMerriman]

71. I voted for her for AG, but I'm starting to wonder

I voted for her for AG, but I'm starting to wonder...

Life is nasty, brutish, and short. Everyone carries a cross. That's the lot of humanity; always has been, always will be...

Tell me what you're going to do differently than the asshole in the White House, not that someone hurt your feelings.

[marylandblue]

79. Her job was to take him down, she wasn't personally hurt by it.

My view is that she scored and he didn't have a good answer. In a few days, we'll see if other voters agree with me.

[RHMerriman]

85. Undoubtedly true about seeing if anything comes of it...

Undoubtedly true about seeing if anything comes of it...

My view is life's a bitch and then you die, and complaining about "hurtful words" is so much noise.

I want a leader, and a fighter; I'm watching the re-run now, and I'm watching for evidence of strength.

[marylandblue]

104. If you didn't see it the first time, you won't see it at all.

[RHMerriman]

112. Different nuances and facets second time around...

Different nuances and facets second time around...

[Demsrule86]

123. The whole thing was contrived like I said with a photo waiting to go out...I hate women playing the

victim in these situations...and I honestly thought that is what happened.

[TnRob]

143. Rhetoric

Logos, Ethos, Pathos


Running for President isn't a Prosecution where you have to convince beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's about appealing to the voters. And, yes, you can use emotion to do that along with logic and ethics.

[treestar]

118. Because that's not appreciated that much by general voters

The "hurtful" thems just brings up "snowflake!" Especially if it is just words. Sticks and stones, that is a basis of American culture. Your other examples are not just words. And words coming from another liberal as "hurtful" would indicate to Rs they can use even more hurtful words (which they would want to do) and get somewhere. People who are "hurt" are weaker, right? That is what Rs are all about.

[RHMerriman]

39. Yeah, whining about "hurtful words" is going to make Donald Trump change his behavior.

Yeah, whining about "hurtful words" is going to make Donald Trump change his behavior.

It was a pathetic hail mary.

[Perseus]

31. That is because when Biden voted against it, she was a child

He hurt a child by not voting for what he says now he supported...Very lame to say that he didn't vote for something he supported because it was a local decision. You either support the issue or you don't.

[RHMerriman]

42. So was I...

So was I... we're the exact same age, and my school was subject to court-ordered busing.

NO ONE gives a shit about feelings from childhood when a candidate is running for president of the United States and commander in chief...

She was trying to show she can take on old white guys; unfortunately, the old white guy she would need to beat in November will laugh at her when she talks about her "feelings."

Weak as shit; no strength.

[Demsrule86]

125. I am sorry...I doubt a kid her age knew Biden's name...and she got the facts wrong too.

[UniteFightBack]

52. Good point. If she was 'so hurt' by these MADE UP WORDS that she said Joe said then rump is

going to skewer her.

[RHMerriman]

58. Sticks and stones...

Again, no prosecutor argues a case against a defendant based on the defendant's "hurtful words"...

Facts and the law and logic.

Not emotion.

She's in single digits with AA voters; Biden is at 40 percent.

This was her effort to break out of the cellar.

[Celerity]

5. ridiculous charge by team Biden, smdh

[uponit7771]

7. +1, all he has to say is those votes were a mistake and leave it at that !!!

[emulatorloo]

83. They didn't make any such charge though. Symone Sanders says Biden "camp" said no such thing

Link to tweet

[Celerity]

89. and she was wrong, it was Alex Cristobal, one of his main Sr. advisers

Link to tweet

[emulatorloo]

90. More info

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173668

Sorry, this won’t help Pete or Sen Harris rise in the polls i’m afraid. They are both great, best if Pete does what he is doing and Senator Harris focuses on her strengths and accomplishments

[Celerity]

94. I am for the person who can best shred Trump apart, Harris is closer to that person than Biden is

Biden made another error by saying the NRA 'is not an enemy' and trying to parse out and separate them (the NRA) from the gun manufactures. The NRA IS a fucking enemy at multiple levels, including being a Russian money laundering political slush fund for the Rethugs.

Biden is far from a sure thing, and far from the best to put up against Rump in a debate. One on one, Harris would tear circa 2019-20 Biden apart in 9 out 10 debates. She is a relentless and hyper-intelligent politician with great charisma and is also a superbly-skilled prosecutor starting to enter the peak of her intellectual and political powers. Biden is starting to manifest the effects of getting closer to 80 years of age (Biden would be in his 80's for over 75% of his two terms, from 2022 to 2029.) He is no longer remotely close to the peak of his powers, as was on display at both the Poor Peoples Campaign appearance well as the debate tonight.

[emulatorloo]

96. She's great

Love her. On my shortlist

Big question in my mind this time out is can a candidate win the rust belt and former purple states like Iowa. Still undecided

[Celerity]

105. McRaven as VP would help with that I think, 4 Star Admiral, US Spec Ops commander who led the bin

Laden kill raid), ex Navy Seal, hyper intelligent (he also has been the University of Texas president) like Harris and Pete, shedloads of charisma, and (more superficially) pretty tall, dominant presence, white, and male, into fighting climate change as well

McRaven: Trump, not terrorists, is biggest threat to national security

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/05/17/navy-seal-mcraven-trump-threatens-national-security/1183799001/

[Demsrule86]

126. This is not about shredding Trump...he is going for an electoral college win through the the

rustbelt...and Harris won't take the states we need and she did herself harm last night with some of her policy positions. We need WI, MI and PA...Harris will not win those states. Biden can rebuild the blue wall.

[Celerity]

133. not sold on Biden's ability to take on Rump at all, each new public event convinces me more

[Demsrule86]

137. Do you think Warren or Harris can win Michigan and Wisconsin? They won't. Who can win?

If we don't rebuild the blue wall we lose...and the house could be in play with the wrong candidate...all of our candidates have now taken on policies that will hurt us in a general.

[Celerity]

140. Yes, I think either can win those states, especially Harris and even more so with a great VP

that is strategically sound.

The Biden or bust meme is looking more threadbare with each week that passes. He still is the front runner, but he simply must massively up his game if he is going to be able to run a general election campaign. He is not looking strong at all atm.

His

Biden: Gun manufacturers, 'not the NRA,' are the 'enemy'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/450807-biden-enemy-is-gun-manufacturers-not-the-nra

positing is just plain daft

The NRA itself IS a clear and present danger, on multiple levels including being a Russian money laundering op, and tossing in hundreds of millions to help elect Rethugs, and to gut any reasonable gun control.

They are literally the definition of an enemy, at multiple inflection points.



The vast majority of the NRA members now are gun-humpers and RW'ers, most 'reasonable' ones left long ago.


Why More Than 90 Percent Of Gun Owners Don’t Join The NRA

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/01/nra-russia-investigations-gun-lobby


The NRA used to be much more bipartisan. Now it's mostly just a wing of the GOP

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/24/politics/nra-partisan-bipartisan-republican/index.html





Biden is wrong, dead wrong, on this.

[.99center]

102. Where's the statement put out by Joe Biden's campaign?

I see a Tweet, but where's the statement the campaign supposedly pits out?

[Celerity]

107. that was what the reporters were referring to, in todays world tweets from senior campaign officals

are statements. It is 2019, not 1988 where people sent fax docs.

[.99center]

110. Twist it however you want

One advisor live Tweeting his opinion during a debate is far from a campaign putting out a statement.

[Celerity]

111. I am not the one twisting anything, the reporting never said Biden himself said it, and it was from

one of his most senior campaign officials.

[LovingA2andMI]

6. Bulls**t!!!

Period!

This comment will get around QUICK in the African-American community. Real quick!

[Iliyah]

27. I doubt that.

Just my opinion.

[emulatorloo]

29. Agreed

Link to tweet

[LovingA2andMI]

30. You think?

It's getting around already on the internets. But you have a right to your opinion and "doubt".

[highplainsdem]

8. I haven't been able to verify this anywhere else except as something Matthews said. I'd have

to see the exact statement, which might not have come from Biden even if some staffer said it.

However, FWIW, Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale is already openly gleeful about Harris going after Biden.

[MarcA]

10. Is there any evidence that the "Biden team" stated this? n/t

[pnwmom]

16. Other than Chris Matthews saying the Biden team had just put out the statement, I haven't seen it.nt

[MarcA]

21. Thank you. n/t

[PatrickforO]

11. That twitter thread is pretty telling.

I thought Harris was great tonight. Am supporting Warren, but I could totally get behind Harris. She'd be a great president - dynamic, fearless, incisive. I was quite impressed. As was my wife. To our minds, Harris was the clear winner of this night's debate.

[Bradical79]

13. Will be interesting to see how the polls react between now and next round

[tishaLA]

14. "My time's up. I'm sorry"

-- VP Biden after his colloquy with Sen Harris

[ancianita]

15. Nah. Trump will NEVER be able to attack Biden's record when his is SO fucking racist. Biden knows

that he'll stand solid against Trump.

Kamala said more than once that "I don't believe Joe is a racist."


As Harris confronted him, I could see Biden's face & inner voice say, "I need this powerhouse as VP!"

[highplainsdem]

17. Biden staffer Symone Sanders said there was no such statement from the campaign.

Just read that on Twitter. Trying to track this down.

[pnwmom]

20. Interesting. I wouldn't expect Chris Matthews would have made that up. nt

[highplainsdem]

28. Symone Sanders tweet here:

Link to tweet

I'm still trying to find more info on this.

[emulatorloo]

33. Maybe you should self delete since S Sanders says it isn't true

[pnwmom]

43. I trust Chris Matthews and MSNBC will issue a correction if necessary. n/t

[emulatorloo]

63. Will you issue a correction?

Link to tweet

[pnwmom]

67. I won't have to. It turns out that a Biden Senior Advisor tweeted this out tonight.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212225484

[lindysalsagal]

124. Sure he would. Tweety is in it for the mud-slinging. He doesn't much care who's mud, as long as he's

in the cross-fire.

[Iliyah]

32. Could be t-rump's trolls viva

Russia, Saudi Arabia, Republicans, et al.,

[highplainsdem]

35. Possibly. I'm still looking for any real proof of the statement.

[mr_liberal]

18. Large majorities oppose forced busing and Im sure a majority would say Biden was

right to work with segregationists. Its the opposite in the Dem primary though, that's Biden's problem.

[msongs]

22. so where's the proof this has happened? nt

[highplainsdem]

37. No proof that I can find so far.

[Perseus]

24. Actually, the buffoon wants Biden to win the nomination

He knows Biden will be fair game for him, and that Biden will not be strong enough to fight his child behaviour.

That is a very weak attack on Harris, what they don't like is that both Harris and Bennett exposed him.

[emulatorloo]

36. Except It isn't true

Link to tweet

Maybe you could self delete, because Biden staff did not attack Harris that way.

[Perseus]

40. Its not true the Biden campaign said that?

Hmmm...Did we get fooled by fake news?

[pnwmom]

47. Chris Matthews said it on MSNBC. He has less of a reason to shade the truth

than Sanders, but, yes, I would like this to be confirmed, too.

[still_one]

70. He is quoting a writer from the Rolling Stone in your OP, so Matthews is just repeating what someone

else has alleged.

[pnwmom]

72. I thought the Rolling Stone writer was quoting him. But in any case

we have the tweet from Biden's Sr. Advisor, which seems to solve the mystery.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212225484

[emulatorloo]

49. Symone D Sanders works for the Biden campaign. I take her at her word.

We know her from 2016, when she worked for Bernie. She is the real deal.

[Cha]

45. Wow.. Thank You for that, emulatorloo!

Link to tweet

[emulatorloo]

57. Dunno why this thread keeps going. What OP asserts is not true

Yet people still keep posting as if it is true. Weird.

[Cha]

62. They're not paying attention to

your tweet from Symone.. only what the OP put up.

Thanks again!

[marylandblue]

68. It's been a hot issue for a week, and she went there, so we are all stirred up again.

[highplainsdem]

41. That's nonsense, given all the polls showing Biden beating Trump.

[Hoyt]

50. If true, Biden's team should tone it down.

[emulatorloo]

51. It isn't true though.

Link to tweet

Symone Sanders is a spokesperson for the Biden campaign. Is there anyway I can convince you to delete your “if True” post?

Because it isn’t true.

[uponit7771]

56. ****Biden Camp Claims They Said No Such Thing****

[still_one]

65. The source is a writer from the Rolling Stone. It is right to be skeptical.

[BootinUp]

60. Ouch! Nt

[Cha]

80. ..

Link to tweet

[still_one]

61. I would like to see a confirmation of this from another source, other than a writer for the Rolling

Stone.

[pnwmom]

69. Here's a tweet from a Sr. Advisor to Biden that might be at the bottom of this.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212225484

[highplainsdem]

73. That tweet from a Biden advisor was dumb, IMO, but it wasn't a statement

from the campaign, any sort of official statement, which is what Matthews said it was.

Linking to the tweet, since you self-deleted the OP at that DU link:

Link to tweet

[still_one]

78. It is yellow journalism, intentionally leaving out the full context, to present something in a much

more negative light

The exchange between Harris and Biden was actually quite respectful,, and the media seems to be enjoying putting their hyperbole on it.

In the next few days we will see what results, but I suspect it will not move the polls significantly one way or another

[still_one]

74. The tweet in the OP is presented in an entirely different way then the actual tween from the Biden

camp

Actual tweet from the campaign:

"Let’s get real. @JoeBiden fought for civil rights for his entire life. He started his career as a public defender. To attack him because he worked to convince Repubs (yes, some with horrible views) to vote for the Voting Rights Act is outrageous and is exactly what Trump wants."

Tweet from the Rolling Stone conveyed by Matthews:

"The @JoeBiden team said that @KamalaHarris is “doing exactly what Trump wants,” per MSNBC. Fails on two levels. First, he doesn’t want a charismatic black candidate telling the truth about racism. Second, the idea Trump wants Biden out of the race, after tonight, seems laughable."

Leaving out the full context of what the Biden campaign said is what is referred to as yellow journalism I am sorry to say

[Cha]

76. OMG.. Way to Twist IT UP, Jamil Smith

Thank You for this, still_one!

[still_one]

82. It isn't me, it is actually the OP who was up front to supply the link to me in a previous post to

me, so I appreciate that.

[Cha]

84. Good! 'Cause all I saw was

your post.. thank You for telling me.

It's not in the OP, tho

[still_one]

88. Agreed, the OP is intentionally misleading. Here is the link to the tweet:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173608


Direct Twitter link:

Link to tweet

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1144428987596324865&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F1287173608

[Cha]

92. JHC.. the Responsible thing to do would

be to edit and post the Real Tweet from Biden's campaign..

"Let’s get real. @JoeBiden fought for civil rights for his entire life. He started his career as a public defender. To attack him because he worked to convince Repubs (yes, some with horrible views) to vote for the Voting Rights Act is outrageous and is exactly what Trump wants."

I tried to find this in Tweet form but I can't come up with it yet..

[Cha]

98. Here it is!

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173668#top

[still_one]

103. Good work Cha, thanks

[Cha]

75. How about confirmation that it's not true?

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=173398

[Iliyah]

77. Sanders was right. They did not.

fake news.

[pnwmom]

81. Sanders was wrong. Biden's Sr. Advisor tweeted out those words -- that Harris

was doing "exactly what Trump wants." But the advisor mistakenly attributed the disagreement to Biden's working on the Voting Rights act with the segregationists, instead of on the anti-busing bill.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287173608

[Iliyah]

87. I stand by what I said.

[MarcA]

91. Thank you for taking the time to post on this.

I see some remain in a trumpian mindset even when presented with the truth.

[highplainsdem]

93. Sanders was correct. This was an off-the-cuff tweet from a single advisor during the debate, not

any sort of actual statement from the campaign, which is how Matthews mischaracterized it.

It's quite likely Sanders had no idea what that advisor had tweeted.

[pnwmom]

95. People who call themselves Sr. campaign advisors should not make "off the cuff" tweets

on Twitter.

After the pushback they're now saying, apparently, that the tweet was "off the cuff." Maybe so, but putting your title as Sr. Advisor on your page gives your communications weight.

[highplainsdem]

100. The tweet WAS off the cuff, posted just minutes after the exchange between Harris and Biden.

And Matthews pretending this was a statement from the campaign was a serious misrepresentation. He would have known that saying it was a tweet from a single advisor would have made it seem much less important.

[still_one]

86. That is very kind of Bernie to say that

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Too many people with the last name of Sanders


I am soooooooo confused

[highplainsdem]

108. LOL! Sorry about the confusion!

[still_one]

109. I wasn't really confused, but I couldn't resist

[Voltaire2]

113. Biden has fucked up big time.

This is what he does. The Great Gaffesby puts himself in the shit, and then can’t find a way out.

[Cha]

114. I don't take anything you have

to say about Biden seriously.

[Voltaire2]

115. Lulzd.

When all else fails, make it personal.

[Cha]

116. And, your post is self-evident why.

[Voltaire2]

117. Ok. I'll take that under advisement.

I can’t wait for the serious peoples here to splain why Biden is still our Only Hope.

[Demsrule86]

127. In your dreams...you hope it to be true...just like shoulder touching and working with racists

blah blah...but we know Joe and I predict this will hurt Harris not help her.

[Voltaire2]

145. I do hope it is now rather than later.

If he implodes during the election campaign it’s too late.

[emmaverybo]

128. Was a tweet from an advisor while debates going on, not an official Biden team statement. NT

[lapfog_1]

141. Kamala is a tough prosecutor

and decent Senator. I voted for her... and I contributed to her campaign.

But one thing she is not... is charismatic.

Obama is charismatic. Beto is charismatic (but maybe lacking in the substance department).

Kamala, despite her other qualities, is just not that person.

[Goodheart]

142. Wow. Better to have just kept their traps shut.

Sounds like they know Biden lost last night.