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"Kamala Harris is not Black" Twitter attack (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2019 OP
If one is going to claim coordination... SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #1
Other than "people who don't want Kamala Harris to be President"... brooklynite Jun 2019 #2
Coordination requires a group or groups working together. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #7
Only the social media site owners can find out or guess in an educated applegrove Jun 2019 #20
It does... but it doesn't require that we know who is coordinating them FBaggins Jul 2019 #27
These are all different accounts tweeting the octoberlib Jun 2019 #3
Then there is zero defined coordination. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #6
This is the same pattern used by Russia n 2016 agaibst Clinton Gothmog Jun 2019 #17
I simply understand how many racists are out there. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #19
This is part of a planned attach on Senator Harris Gothmog Jun 2019 #21
"NO COLLUSION! NO COLLUSION!" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #25
Jeezus . . . Iliyah Jun 2019 #4
Malcolm Nance: demmiblue Jun 2019 #5
This didn't work against Obama in 2008 IronLionZion Jun 2019 #8
Making it up as they go along Zambero Jun 2019 #15
that was before the Russian bots JI7 Jun 2019 #22
Not that it matters but is it true or not? Watchfoxheadexplodes Jun 2019 #9
WTF. Lots of Jamaicans are black. Goodheart Jun 2019 #10
Jamaican is BLACK. 'Nough said. Kamala identifies as Black and Indian. onetexan Jun 2019 #11
Jamaica Demographics Celerity Jun 2019 #14
... demmiblue Jul 2019 #26
JFC. MrsCoffee Jul 2019 #28
Strangely, (or stupidly) for a long time, I didn't think Kamala was black. Tracer Jun 2019 #12
Probably the same Russian bots/MAGA troll farm accounts that have been attacking Beto for months Indygram Jun 2019 #13
The real story behind this... right now they are saying she's not black to try and sway AA voters Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #16
I first heard of her when she had won the Attorney General election in California IronLionZion Jun 2019 #18
From Joe Biden Gothmog Jun 2019 #23
This was a coordinated campaign Gothmog Jul 2019 #24
Birthers and neo-nazis are behind this. Good article in Buzzfeed about origins of this. emulatorloo Jul 2019 #29
How black isn't the point Dickbaker Jul 2019 #30
What exactly is a black agenda? demmiblue Jul 2019 #31
What is a "black agenda"? And why is it a problem if her "presidential goal is her true agenda"? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #32
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
1. If one is going to claim coordination...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jun 2019

They should at least state who they believe is coordinating it.

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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
2. Other than "people who don't want Kamala Harris to be President"...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:12 AM
Jun 2019

...what would be the basis for identifying the origin?

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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
7. Coordination requires a group or groups working together.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jun 2019

Without it, the claim doesn't hold. It's simple speculation based off of limited information.

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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
20. Only the social media site owners can find out or guess in an educated
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jun 2019

way who the coordinators are. Really so many groups are coordinating it will be harder to figure out who they are by you and me than during 2016. We have to be realistic.

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FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
27. It does... but it doesn't require that we know who is coordinating them
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jul 2019

If right-wing media outlets all start using the same language to frame a particular issue, it's clear that someone is coordinating that message. You can't pretend that it isn't true unless we can name the people coordinating the message.

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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
3. These are all different accounts tweeting the
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:14 AM
Jun 2019

same thing. Obviously coordinated. I don’t know how she’d be able to know who did it with out an FBI investigation.

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SouthernProgressive

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6. Then there is zero defined coordination.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:20 AM
Jun 2019

There are over 69 million twitter users in the US. How many are "all different accounts tweeting the same thing?"

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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
17. This is the same pattern used by Russia n 2016 agaibst Clinton
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jun 2019
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
19. I simply understand how many racists are out there.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jun 2019

More than just "look at these couple of tweets" is often good. I think calling this coordinated without more is to be dismissive of the depths of racism in the US. This isn't even close to the first time I have seen this foolishness when it comes to Harris.

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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
21. This is part of a planned attach on Senator Harris
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:28 PM
Jun 2019

This is the same pattern that we have seen before


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StarfishSaver

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25. "NO COLLUSION! NO COLLUSION!"
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jul 2019

Nothing to see here.

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Iliyah

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4. Jeezus . . .
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:14 AM
Jun 2019

Black Americans know.

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IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
8. This didn't work against Obama in 2008
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jun 2019

They claimed he was Kenyan and White, not black. Cory Booker has 2 black parents but they might spread this lie about him somehow too.

Hell, Freepers are claiming Kamala is ineligible to run for president because her parents were immigrants.

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Zambero

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15. Making it up as they go along
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:34 AM
Jun 2019

Situational "reality" at its finest. Would not be surprising if more than a few of them were "Canada Ted" Cruz supporters during the GOP primaries a couple years back.

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JI7

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22. that was before the Russian bots
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jun 2019
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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
9. Not that it matters but is it true or not?
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jun 2019

Her wiki says her mother was Tamil Indian and her father Jamaican.

Again not that it matters "warren"

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Goodheart

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10. WTF. Lots of Jamaicans are black.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jun 2019
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onetexan

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11. Jamaican is BLACK. 'Nough said. Kamala identifies as Black and Indian.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:30 AM
Jun 2019

I happen to like her and find her very sharp. Just don't like how she came after Joe last night by taking his words out of context.

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Celerity

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14. Jamaica Demographics
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jun 2019
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/jamaica-population/

Jamaicans of African descent represent 76.3% of the population
followed by 15.1% Afro-European
3.4% East Indian and Afro-East Indian
3.2% Caucasian
1.2% Chinese
0.8% other

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Tracer

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12. Strangely, (or stupidly) for a long time, I didn't think Kamala was black.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:33 AM
Jun 2019

This was ages ago so forgive me. I thought that she was from an Indian background, based on absolutely nothing except her name --- which struck me as Indian.

Now I know her ethnic background.

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Indygram

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13. Probably the same Russian bots/MAGA troll farm accounts that have been attacking Beto for months
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 10:35 AM
Jun 2019

Sadly, this is what happens to EVERY candidate that is a threat to Trump. They started on Beto before he even entered the race. The worst part is that supporters of other candidates will jump right in and help spread disinformation and attacks. Well, except for the candidates they want to be the nominee.

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Thekaspervote

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16. The real story behind this... right now they are saying she's not black to try and sway AA voters
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jun 2019

In another scenario when it suits them They will be saying the opposite.

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IronLionZion

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18. I first heard of her when she had won the Attorney General election in California
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jun 2019

and Indian newspapers listed the record number of Indian-Americans who had won election that year. Kamala was notably absent from those news articles and it was noteworthy that people on social media told them she's just as Indian as she is Black.

In this case the twitter troll bots are promoting division between black Americans and black immigrants from other countries, which is just as dumb since Jamaicans had the same roots in the trans-Atlantic slave trade as black Americans. So I doubt this wedge issue will get much traction, especially considering how bad Trump is. Isn't Trump ineligible for office because of his illegal immigrant mother?

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Gothmog

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24. This was a coordinated campaign
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jul 2019
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emulatorloo

(44,117 posts)
29. Birthers and neo-nazis are behind this. Good article in Buzzfeed about origins of this.
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:49 AM
Jul 2019
A New Racist Campaign Against Kamala Harris Is Taking Shape


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/kamala-harris-black-citizenship

Obama birther conspiracy theorists and prominent neo-Nazis, including Andrew Anglin, have questioned her eligibility to run for president, and she’s been labeled an “anchor baby.”
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Dickbaker

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30. How black isn't the point
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 09:57 AM
Jul 2019

Harris has brown skin resulting from black father and Indian mother. I think it is fine if she chooses to have a black agenda. As long as she has an anti Trump agenda and helps the Democratic agenda. Temporarily I'm afraid her presidential goal is her true agenda.
Dick

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demmiblue

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31. What exactly is a black agenda?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jul 2019
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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
32. What is a "black agenda"? And why is it a problem if her "presidential goal is her true agenda"?
Mon Jul 1, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jul 2019

Isn't a "presidential goal" the "true agenda" of every candidate running for president?

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