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Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:49 PM Jun 2019

BREAKING NEWS! I now announce my top five.

As you all know, I promised to come off of my undecided stance after the debates.
I know you’ve all been waiting for my announcement.
Well, I kinda sorta am.
Here’s my current Top Five:

1. Warren
1a. Harris
3. Buttigieg
4. Castro
5. Biden
(Honorable Mention: Williamson. I want her to read my aura and rub sage in my house).

Talk amongst yourself and return to your regular programming.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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BREAKING NEWS! I now announce my top five. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 OP
Great choices! FM123 Jun 2019 #1
As you can see, I didn't pick one either. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #2
I've been waiting with bated breath IrishEyes Jun 2019 #3
I have bad breath. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #5
My TOP Five based on my 3 C test underthematrix Jun 2019 #4
Are you telling us that none of the women running have comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #7
I don't think they have the capacity to put together a great leadership team underthematrix Jun 2019 #13
truly WTF Celerity Jun 2019 #16
I use critical thinking to assess candidates. Harris is my senator and underthematrix Jun 2019 #20
Harris is my Senator too (Ted Lieu is my congressman) Celerity Jun 2019 #21
Outrageous? It's my opinion. Putting together a leadership is underthematrix Jun 2019 #23
All white males and three over 67 years old Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #10
Yes. I'm an old African American woman underthematrix Jun 2019 #14
They would all make very good presidents n/t Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #15
Hey I'm an old fashioned voter. underthematrix Jun 2019 #17
Very well said Bradshaw3 Jun 2019 #18
You forgot Williamson underpants Jun 2019 #6
No I didn't. She got an honorable mention & some crystals. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #9
Yes she has great energy underpants Jun 2019 #11
Right now I am leaning toward Kamala Harris, based heavily on her performance in the debates. StevieM Jun 2019 #8
My mother's top 5 for the debates pl(I missed a lot due to work) Bradical79 Jun 2019 #12
I will play Celerity Jun 2019 #19
Not meaning to be overly critical, but you haven't made much progress. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #22
 

FM123

(10,053 posts)
1. Great choices!
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jun 2019

I too promised to come off my undecided stance after the debates, BUT have only been able to narrow it down - not select my one and only....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
2. As you can see, I didn't pick one either.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019

I was so proud of and impressed by both Warren and Harris.
And since they were on different nights, I really couldn’t choose right now.
They are tied for me until the July debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
3. I've been waiting with bated breath
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jun 2019

There are a lot of good candidates to choose from.

I'm looking forward to seeing them all on the same debate stage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
5. I have bad breath.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jun 2019

Fixed your post.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
4. My TOP Five based on my 3 C test
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jun 2019

1. BIDEN
2. BENNET
3. INSLEE
4. BULLOCK
5. HICKENLOOPER

These five are 3 for 3 on my 3C test
Character
Competence
Capacity

Of course I will vote for the 2020 DEM nominee no matter what.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
7. Are you telling us that none of the women running have
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:12 PM
Jun 2019

character, competence or capacity? Very interesting perspective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
13. I don't think they have the capacity to put together a great leadership team
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jun 2019

I don't think they understand the difference between community organizing and activism. I would say the same applies to Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
16. truly WTF
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jun 2019
I don't think they have the capacity to put together a great leadership team


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
20. I use critical thinking to assess candidates. Harris is my senator and
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

I love her being my senator. She's awesome. Warren is the best policy wonk candidate ever. She is amazing.

Presidents must represent the entire country not just the people who supported them. Presidents must be able to recruit the BEST and brightest, including those have the historical memory of our constitutional democracy actually working.

I don't see Harris in particular having the relational and political resources to make that happen. I see Warren as having a better chance of pulling together a high quality team.

If either one became the nominee, I would happily support them, campaign for them and VOTE for them.

But they didn't make my 3C list because there are more qualified candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
21. Harris is my Senator too (Ted Lieu is my congressman)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jun 2019

I would never say that any of our serious candidates, regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, etc are not capable of butting together a great leadership team.

Obviously people are one million percent free to rank one over the other, but that is NOT what you did. You said they were incapable, literally that they lack the capacity. To me that is an outrageous statement.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
23. Outrageous? It's my opinion. Putting together a leadership is
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jun 2019

highly dependent on the relationships nurtured over a LONG period of time. I chose the candidates who had the BEST capacity to recruit, build and sustain the BEST team. While I think Warren has more capacity than Harris, I still think a candidate's policy prescriptions determine who they can get to implement them AS THE CANDIDATE ENVISIONED.

If Harris or Warren was our nominee and they put together a team and the team said, look we can do this piece, but we can't do this other piece now because of one, two three. I would be the kind of supporter who would respect that because I understand policy making is extremely complicated. However, the same people who are supporting them for emotional reasons would be the same people attacking them when they are unable to implement exactly what they envisioned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,486 posts)
10. All white males and three over 67 years old
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jun 2019

Interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
14. Yes. I'm an old African American woman
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jun 2019

But I didn't choose them based on age. I chose them based on my 3C test.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,486 posts)
15. They would all make very good presidents n/t
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
17. Hey I'm an old fashioned voter.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jun 2019

With said, I know I MUST vote for whoever the DEM nominee will be. That's my commitment to the common good. Even if the nominee doesn't meet my 3C test, I know all of our candidates are committed to the wellbeing of ALL Americans, including immigrants, the backbone and strength of our nation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradshaw3

(7,486 posts)
18. Very well said
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jun 2019

I, too, will vote for, work for and donate to, whoever the Democatic nominee is, no matter what.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,603 posts)
6. You forgot Williamson
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jun 2019

Come on!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
9. No I didn't. She got an honorable mention & some crystals.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

underpants

(182,603 posts)
11. Yes she has great energy
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

marianne williamson has the same energy as a live laugh love wall vinyl from homegoods

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. Right now I am leaning toward Kamala Harris, based heavily on her performance in the debates.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jun 2019

I thought she did better than any of the candidates in either debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
12. My mother's top 5 for the debates pl(I missed a lot due to work)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

No particular order:

Warren
Harris
Sanders
Castro
Buttigieg

I feel like Warren is her front runner, with Harris and Castro trailing closest.

She also liked Gabbard and Booker.

She didn't mention O'Rourke, Klobuchar, Inslee, Gillibrand, Delaney, Hickenlooper, De Blasio, or Bennett.

She thought Swalwell had a couple good points, and her opinion of Biden as POTUS dropped.

She thought Yang and Ryan stood out as not even belonging on the same stage as the rest.

My impressions from another large forum I follow: Warren is the most well regarded, and there is a very sharp devide over Sanders. Extremely polarizing. Harris gained a fair amount of support, though her record as AG is hotly debated (and a big turn off for some).

Biden is outright despised by most, but at the same time, there's still division over whether he is the best to beat Trump.

Buttigieg did well, some argument over social justice and his city (I think missed some big news at some point). Castro was getting some buzz.

Yang got a lot of talk, mostly for comedic value. A few liked him previously, but agreement was universal that he bombed. First time I've ever seen every single person on a forum with tens of thousands of members agree on a political candidate before lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(43,107 posts)
19. I will play
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 01:57 PM
Jun 2019

1. Buttigieg
1a. Harris (I have the feeling she might be getting my California vote if Pete doesn't move up in A-A support)
3. Warren
4. Booker
5. Bullock (my contrarian centrist dark horse pick (still wish he would run for Senate though), he really intrigues me, as he is the ONLY candidate to win in a ruby red state, he also , as Governor bent a Rethug legislature to his will a lot, he is now qualified for the second round of debates, and he has the 'it' factor for me). I think he would pull a shit tonne of swing voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. Not meaning to be overly critical, but you haven't made much progress.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jun 2019


You've just identified the ones who are left standing after the debates. (Well, and Sanders, too. Sort of)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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