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DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:50 PM Jun 2019

The birther's are back -

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/kamala-harris-black-citizenship

We Traced The Smears Against Kamala Harris To Obama Birthers And Neo-Nazis

Not long after Sen. Kamala Harris challenged Joe Biden’s record on race during part two of the first Democratic debate last night, a barrage of tweets questioned her race and US citizenship. While these claims erupted into national prominence last night, in part due to a quote-tweet from Donald Trump Jr., falsehoods about her have been long simmering in fringe conspiracy and neo-Nazi circles.

Just as Barack Obama’s US citizenship and background became a full-fledged conspiracy theory — promoted at the time by Donald Trump — Harris has also been targeted with disinformation questioning her legitimacy as a US citizen and race. Obama birther conspiracy theorists and prominent neo-Nazis, including Andrew Anglin, have questioned her eligibility to run for president, and she’s been labeled an “anchor baby.”

In fact, Harris was born in Oakland to an Indian mother and Jamaican father, and is eligible to run for president.

“Seeing the tweets declaring that Kamala isn’t black enough because her parents are from Jamaica and India, I had an immediate flashback to the 2008 campaign,” Shauna Daly, who led the fight against online smears on the Obama campaign, told BuzzFeed News. That campaign faced an early wave of rumors about Obama’s race and religion, which later coalesced into false claims about the president’s birthplace whose most famous champion was Donald Trump.
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The birther's are back - (Original Post) DURHAM D Jun 2019 OP
Courtesy of shithole Junior and bots . . . Iliyah Jun 2019 #1
And what characteristic does Senator Harris share with President Obama? guillaumeb Jun 2019 #2
It's very well coordinated JustAnotherGen Jun 2019 #3
Here we go. Find the racists and out them. NT SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author NYMinute Jun 2019 #5
Good! peggysue2 Jun 2019 #6
K&R nt NYMinute Jun 2019 #7
Here is the name of the tweeter. No surprise he's involved with jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer octoberlib Jun 2019 #8
Loomer... AtheistCrusader Jun 2019 #10
I wonder why he used the name onethatcares Jun 2019 #17
More on him at Crooks and Liars in 2012 (including his mugshots), cuz of course he's the same deurbano Jun 2019 #24
Geeeeeeeeeeez! TruckFump Jun 2019 #9
I'm surprised that the birthers go "there", i.e., no_hypocrisy Jun 2019 #11
Fat Donnie's Mother was from Scotland and 4 of his kids had Mother's who were not born here. kimbutgar Jun 2019 #12
His mother was here as a chain migrant, she came to the US to stay with her sister.... George II Jun 2019 #16
Some of them do obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #15
It's o gonna get worse Butterflylady Jun 2019 #13
Yeah, they mobilized fast on that: Saviolo Jun 2019 #14
We knew this was coming. We know what they are. TryLogic Jun 2019 #18
This time, we are prepared.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2019 #19
Buckle up, it's already a bumpy ride Hekate Jun 2019 #20
Me thinks it will get a whole lot bumpier. warmfeet Jun 2019 #21
I saw these attacks on her "blackness" and background months ago Sapient Donkey Jun 2019 #22
Yep. Same here. nt ecstatic Jun 2019 #23
Traitor tot shared then deleted a tweet last night questioning Kamala Harris's race DesertRat Jun 2019 #25
Wow. spicysista Jun 2019 #26
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Courtesy of shithole Junior and bots . . .
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jun 2019
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guillaumeb

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2. And what characteristic does Senator Harris share with President Obama?
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:52 PM
Jun 2019

Both are perceived as non-white, so to a certain large sub-set of conservatives, she cannot be a real American.

As to that large sub-set, they are called racists.

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JustAnotherGen

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3. It's very well coordinated
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jun 2019

And as Malcom Nance says - we need to be acutely aware of who is behind it and why.

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SouthernProgressive

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4. Here we go. Find the racists and out them. NT
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:55 PM
Jun 2019
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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
6. Good!
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 04:59 PM
Jun 2019

The way to deflate this garbage is by exposing the purveyors. This sort of attack is multi-leveled. Attack Kamala Harris on the basis of race, false disqualifiers and questions of legitimacy and inflame the electorate, specifically Democrats. But also any undecideds or wobbly Trump supporters.

Trump and his odious enablers would like nothing better than to have us at one another's throats, split us on racial/ethnic lines and laugh all the way back to the White House for another disastrous term.

We hang together or we hang separately, as one wise man once said.

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octoberlib

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8. Here is the name of the tweeter. No surprise he's involved with jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:01 PM
Jun 2019

The tweet’s author is Ali Alexander, who previously went by the name Ali Akba. He’s a black MAGA-world personality who launched a website for other fringe Trump supporters unable to find a home in more traditional conservative media. Alexander recently joined Jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer on their trip to Minnesota to make a film about Rep. Ilhan Omar in which they floated conspiracies about her background. Hours after sending his viral tweet, Alexander followed up with a live stream to further explain his claim.

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AtheistCrusader

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10. Loomer...
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:06 PM
Jun 2019

Isn't she the one that got de-platformed last month?

Not soon enough apparently.

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onethatcares

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17. I wonder why he used the name
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jun 2019

"Ali Akba"?

to myself it seems he was trying to tie two separate hates into one .


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deurbano

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24. More on him at Crooks and Liars in 2012 (including his mugshots), cuz of course he's the same
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jun 2019

kind of upstanding as his Inspiration-in-Chief:

https://crooksandliars.com/matt-osborne/national-bloggers-club-and-their-supe

(2012)

<<Ali Akbar, now President of the National Bloggers Club, is one of the conservative blogosphere's most infamous characters. He began his campaign of notoriety with a crime spree in 2006, blazing a six-year trail of fraud. That's him up there, in the mug shots. Akbar's story is as improbable as the Tea Party movement itself, and a lesson on the privileges of power in the age of Citizens United. How did a petty crook rise to these heights in such a short time? Why does he enjoy such influential connections today?

We ask these questions because we see an emerging bipartisan consensus that Akbar's National Bloggers Club (NBC) is entirely notional. Akbar has never applied to the IRS for 501(c)3 status -- despite having claimed as much on the NBC Facebook page. While the NBC requires an unusual amount of personal information from donors, they do not offer those donors an EIN (Employer ID Number) to make their contributions tax deductible....

This would be less distressing if Akbar didn't have a long history of covering up his tracks and minimizing his criminal past. In 2006, he stole items from a woman's home; he later broke into a vehicle, stole a debit card, and withdrew money from the victim's account, earning a felony conviction. Yet this record did not keep Akbar out of Republican politics.

Barely a year later, Akbar was accused of discussing election fraud tactics. The accuser, Joey A. Dauben, was a former colleague. In coverage of the controversy, Akbar was frequently and mistakenly identified as a John McCain campaign staffer due to his involvement in Bloggers for McCain, a "cooperating" website independent from the campaign itself. Akbar also caught flak for “scrubbing the web” to cover the tracks of Michael Meissner, a former police chief who was charged with posing as a woman and soliciting photos of underaged boys...>>

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TruckFump

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9. Geeeeeeeeeeez!
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:06 PM
Jun 2019

What total bullshit!!!!!!!

Kamala was born in Oakland -- what? She has a phony Cal birth certificate? I am sure that Gavin Newsom would provide all of these assholes with an exemplified copy of it!!!!!

She has a right to identify as a person of color -- that's HER business, not that of the RW crazies to say what ethnicity and/or race she is.

Gawd damn nut case RW MF45 lovers!!!!

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no_hypocrisy

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11. I'm surprised that the birthers go "there", i.e.,
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jun 2019

claim all African-Americans and their descendants are "Dreamers" and are in this country illegally. Totally ignore the Constitution.

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kimbutgar

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12. Fat Donnie's Mother was from Scotland and 4 of his kids had Mother's who were not born here.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:19 PM
Jun 2019

Push that back in his face.

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George II

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16. His mother was here as a chain migrant, she came to the US to stay with her sister....
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jun 2019

....who had already immigrated to NYC. And his grandfather was only in the US because he was a criminal back in Bavaria, a draft dodger. "They're not sending their best, they're bringing crime...." Sound familiar donnie dotard?

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obamanut2012

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15. Some of them do
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jun 2019

They say that all black people are not citizens, at least the ones who are descended from US slaves.

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Butterflylady

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13. It's o gonna get worse
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jun 2019

Get use to it.

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Saviolo

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14. Yeah, they mobilized fast on that:
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jun 2019




Caroline Orr
@RVAwonk

A lot of suspect accounts are pushing the “Kamala Harris is not Black” narrative tonight. It’s everywhere and it has all the signs of being a coordinated/artificial operation. #DemDebate2


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TryLogic

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18. We knew this was coming. We know what they are.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jun 2019

Out them.

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LovingA2andMI

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19. This time, we are prepared....
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jun 2019

To disrupt their world and that is the best thing ever.

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Hekate

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20. Buckle up, it's already a bumpy ride
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jun 2019
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warmfeet

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21. Me thinks it will get a whole lot bumpier.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jun 2019

Be prepared. Always.

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Sapient Donkey

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22. I saw these attacks on her "blackness" and background months ago
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jun 2019

but they were coming from a different direction. It was mostly in the space surrounding the "#ADOS" movement and what not. I think I mentioned it on here when I saw it, and I thought it was strange the type of criticism she was getting. You know, criticizing her identity rather than her policies. Back then it was a lot of newer questionable accounts posting divisive content, but there were also some legit people who are clearly real humans and American citizens. I'm not sure who was pushing whose message on that, but in the end it's all the same. It doesn't surprise me they are now using the same claims again, and now it's coming from a more right-wing accounts.

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DesertRat

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25. Traitor tot shared then deleted a tweet last night questioning Kamala Harris's race
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 08:33 PM
Jun 2019
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spicysista

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26. Wow.
Fri Jun 28, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jun 2019

And it continues...
At this point, it's becoming increasingly predictable. Anyone whom poses a serious challenge will be targeted. We have to have a much stronger answer this time around. Thanks for sharing this post!

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