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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:44 AM Jul 2019

Sanders 3rd, Biden 4th in New, High-Quality California Poll

That’s why it’s significant that the best-regarded Golden State poll, taken by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), is showing a turnabout in the nomination contest. Here’s PPIC’s terse summary of its findings:

Based on an open-ended question, the frontrunners are Kamala Harris (19%), Elizabeth Warren (15%), Bernie Sanders (12%), and Joe Biden (11%). Pete Buttigieg (5%) is the only other candidate supported by at least 5 percent, while 25 percent say they don’t know.

Most election preference polls utilize lists of candidates. An open-ended poll, requiring respondents to volunteer their favored candidate, is arguably more accurate, but if anything it puts a thumb on the scale for the better-known rivals. So the fact that the best-known candidates, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, are running, respectively, fourth and third in this survey is a big and surprising development.

Harris’s lead in PPIC’s open-ended poll is, of course, good news for the Californian. She leads the field among self-identified liberals and moderates alike and in every major region. What this really means is that whoever comes steaming out of the early states with momentum will be in a position to win a lot of delegates in California. If PPIC’s findings are any indication, the state will not be any sort of firewall for Joe Biden if he stumbles in Iowa or New Hampshire or Nevada or South Carolina. It could, in fact, represent the death knell for his campaign. But at this point Biden leads in all the four early states. He’d better do well before the contest splits to the Left Coast. There’s no comfort there for him.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/sanders-third-biden-fourth-in-high-quality-california-poll.html


This poll was just released by the 538 A rated Public Policy institute of California:

July 14–23, 2019
1,706 California Adult Residents:
English, Spanish
MARGIN OF ERROR ±3.4% AT 95% CONFIDENCE LEVEL FOR TOTAL SAMPLE

Disclaimer: This is an early poll. No single poll's results , especially one this early, should be over emphasized.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Sanders 3rd, Biden 4th in New, High-Quality California Poll (Original Post) bluewater Jul 2019 OP
What is the sampling period? crazytown Jul 2019 #1
A popular California senator leads in a presidential primary poll there? Color me shocked. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #2
Month old news. ucrdem Jul 2019 #3
Wrong. So wrong. bluewater Jul 2019 #5
yep, new California poll bigtree Jul 2019 #4
"If PPIC's findings are any indication, the state will not be any sort of firewall for Joe Biden" bluewater Jul 2019 #7
Just as I thought. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #6
OP was being updated to included requested information as you posted. bluewater Jul 2019 #8
Or as soon as I posted. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #9
. bluewater Jul 2019 #14
Exactly "Polls are unreliable a year before an election." Cha Jul 2019 #15
lol General Election Polls, says that 538 article. bluewater Jul 2019 #16
Exactly... LakeArenal Jul 2019 #21
. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #10
We rarely say "polls don't matter. It's too soon!!!" when they support our choice. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #11
It is to soon and could change. But it does appear Biden is fading Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #13
Biden fading Tiggeroshii Jul 2019 #12
And Beto's blowing everyone out of the water in TX. Home state advantage. So? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #17
Great News for both Beto and Harris! LOTS of delegates in Texas and California. bluewater Jul 2019 #18
"Celebrate good times....Come on!" Tarheel_Dem Jul 2019 #19
Nice! Love the balloon gif! bluewater Jul 2019 #20
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
1. What is the sampling period?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jul 2019

IE - how recent is the sample?

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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
2. A popular California senator leads in a presidential primary poll there? Color me shocked.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. "If PPIC's findings are any indication, the state will not be any sort of firewall for Joe Biden"
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jul 2019

Indeed.

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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
6. Just as I thought.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jul 2019

Polls no longer early or within points spread when Biden is behind.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. OP was being updated to included requested information as you posted.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jul 2019

The polling date and margin of error were added as soon as I found them. They were not included in the OP article.

Those and my usual disclaimer were updated as you were making your post here.
That took me a few minutes, sorry for the delay.

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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
9. Or as soon as I posted.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:12 AM
Jul 2019
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Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. Exactly "Polls are unreliable a year before an election."
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
16. lol General Election Polls, says that 538 article.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

Did anyone actually read that article? Seems not.

It wasn't about primary polls, it was about... GENERAL ELECTION polls.

"Democrats desperate to beat President Donald Trump this time around have been focused on one word looking toward 2020: electability. And polls should provide a kind of guidepost. But if history is any indication, polling more than a year away from a general election is terribly unreliable. "


But hey, what does 538 know? Why even bother reading their article?



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LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
21. Exactly...
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jul 2019

But I do "Rock".. so Bluewater says..... Which of course we knew also..

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. We rarely say "polls don't matter. It's too soon!!!" when they support our choice.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
13. It is to soon and could change. But it does appear Biden is fading
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jul 2019

To 4th in this poll

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Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
17. And Beto's blowing everyone out of the water in TX. Home state advantage. So?
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
18. Great News for both Beto and Harris! LOTS of delegates in Texas and California.
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:42 PM
Jul 2019

Let's all celebrate for them both!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
19. "Celebrate good times....Come on!"
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
20. Nice! Love the balloon gif!
Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jul 2019

I love this gif, so I am going to put it in my post here so I can find it again easier.



Thanks!

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