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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

 

Marianne Williamson won't get anywhere near the nomination, but I hope her voice keeps ringing out

She speaking important truths that we need to hear.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply Marianne Williamson won't get anywhere near the nomination, but I hope her voice keeps ringing out (Original post)
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #1
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #3
customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #2
Sparkly Jul 2019 #4
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7
Sparkly Jul 2019 #8
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #11
Sparkly Jul 2019 #21
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #25
ariadne0614 Jul 2019 #15
MontanaMama Jul 2019 #16
Sparkly Jul 2019 #22
Bradshaw3 Jul 2019 #5
BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #33
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #41
BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #43
WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2019 #6
JI7 Jul 2019 #9
Me. Jul 2019 #10
left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #12
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #20
gulliver Jul 2019 #13
BootinUp Jul 2019 #14
gulliver Jul 2019 #17
BootinUp Jul 2019 #18
mtnsnake Jul 2019 #19
sheshe2 Jul 2019 #27
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #23
BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #35
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #37
BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #39
H2O Man Jul 2019 #24
Hoyt Jul 2019 #26
redstateblues Jul 2019 #28
H2O Man Jul 2019 #29
MontanaFarmer Jul 2019 #30
H2O Man Jul 2019 #34
JI7 Jul 2019 #36
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #38
Thunderbeast Jul 2019 #31
Princetonian Jul 2019 #32
StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #40
bigtree Jul 2019 #42

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

1. She should keep speaking them somewhere other than a presidential campaign.

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:35 PM

3. :-)

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:35 PM

2. She's making things tough

 

on the eventual Democratic nominee. Or some sort of yadda, yadda, yadda.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

4. That's what they said about Nader....

 

And Jill Stein...

And so many others.

Please, just NO. ANYONE who stands on the stage, points to all the Democrats and says "ALL of them are wrong" is NO ALLY.
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Response to Sparkly (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:39 PM

7. Not the same

 

But I agree that she shouldn't be going after the other Democrats and I don't think she should stay in the race.

But much of what she says is true and we need to hear it.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:40 PM

8. That WAS true of Nader.

 

And many others who could preach purity from the outside looking in.
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Response to Sparkly (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

11. Not the same

 

I'm not endorsing Williamson and don't think she should stay in the race much longer - but that doesn't mean that some of what she says isn't true.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

21. EXACTLY what was said of outsiders before.

 

Sorry.
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Response to Sparkly (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

25. No need to apologise. We just don't agree

 

It happens.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:09 PM

15. +1 n/t

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:10 PM

16. Yes.

 

Thank you. I agree that she won’t be our nominee and she shouldn’t stay in the race and I am fascinated that she is running on a platform of love and social justice and is still generating interest.
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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

22. Seen this play out in the past.

 

Just saying.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

5. Like how she just trashed the others on stage?

 

By saying the answers won't be found on this stage? Amazing how easily some on here can be taken in with emotion and woo. Yeah, real important "truths".
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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:22 AM

33. People here fall in love easily.

 

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #33)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:53 AM

41. How does saying someone is speaking some truths "falling in love"?

 

Being capable of discernment is a good thing.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:27 AM

43. It's hard to take anyone seriously who takes Williamson seriously.

 

So there’s some discernment for you.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:37 PM

6. She says some good things. She also used to tell AIDS patients to love their viruses, so.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

9. disagree, she has some really bad views.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

10. Thank You

 

As I've said, she not my choice, though if by some miracle she got the nom I would vote for her. That said, there are a lot of hard feelings and mingy comments about her here on DU. She followed the rules and made the cut so she has as much a right to be up there as Delaney, Hickenlooper & Ryan...none of whom have distinguished themselves in a remarkable way, imho.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:00 PM

12. She's the 'love child' of the candidates

 

Love is the answer to beating Trump?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

20. There is something kind of fun and wacky about her being there. It's so "Democrat"

 

We're a strange and diverse bunch.

It will hone down soon and be much more conventional and focused. But right now, it's interesting having her there - kind of like the people who used to show up at every protest march, regardless the issue, shouting "FREE MUMIA!"
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:02 PM

13. I'm not sure her conceptualizations of the problems make solving them easier.

 

I'm particularly dismayed about her dismissing "wonkiness" and predicting people won't vote Dem if we don't radically confront our deep underlying historical and psycho-social problems. That undervalues rationality and provides an excuse for not voting Dem. There's no excuse for not voting out Trump. If our candidate doesn't usher in a spirit of hard truth telling and universal respect for love, I'll still vote for them.

I do agree that she touches on key subjects, and I'm glad she does it. But I prefer these things to be touched on in a more conventional way.
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Response to gulliver (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:07 PM

14. Elections are not logical. Like humans. Nt

 

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:10 PM

17. True...but there are less and more effective forms of rhetorical/emotional appeal

 

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Response to gulliver (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:12 PM

18. She seems to have a good head on shoulders, some

 

Of the time. Then she overdoes things for me, just like you are describing.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:13 PM

19. To me, she comes off almost as anti-Democrat. I think she'll end up hurting us more than helping

 

There are plenty of people right here on this forum who could get up there on that stage and do the same thing she's doing, which is coming out with some soundbites that make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Way too much drama in her spiel.
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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:32 PM

27. I know another candidate that does that.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:17 PM

23. who is she, and how did she get there?

 

Too much woo for me.

Friend of Oprah's. Is that all she's got?
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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:24 AM

35. Dr. Phil got his start with Oprah.

 

So did Dr. Oz. Sometimes Oprah gets it wrong.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #35)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:27 AM

37. so did Oprah buy her in? nt

 

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #37)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:31 AM

39. I have no idea

 

The new agey guru types always seem to have plenty of loyal devotees. My mom went on and on about Zig Ziegler for eons, though he never ran for president.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:20 PM

24. Recommended.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:31 PM

26. She should be the Secretary of Inspiration in Cabinet. I'm serious.

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:33 PM

28. A bunch of posters in this thread talk about her great ideas

 

Without saying what her great ideas are.
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

29. Did you watch the debate?

 

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

30. Yes.

 

She had a couple moments. One was on flint being about race (correct). One was on the tide of ugliness trump has summoned from the dark caverns of this country (my words not hers). She came prepared. But she's a political lightweight. She seems like she could be capable of being jill Stein. Let's hope not.
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Response to MontanaFarmer (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:24 AM

34. I noted on

 

another related thread that tonight, I saw that nine of my friends who are on facebook all support her. They are all, like myself, older. Unlike myself, they are all female. They are all intelligent, insightful, and good human beings. I've known them all for decades, up to about 60 years in one case. I doubt that Ms. Williamson will get the nod in the primary contest, and have zero doubt that all nine friends will vote for whoever our candidate is. I have a lot of respect for each of those nine friends, and believe that Ms. Williamson's voice should be heard, as it is similar in many wats to these women's. And they are an important part of our voting block.
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Response to MontanaFarmer (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:25 AM

36. no, she isn't Jill Stein at all who was/is pretty much a Trump Supporter

 

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Response to MontanaFarmer (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:28 AM

38. To me, she ought to find work as an opinion columnist somewhere.

 

Or perhaps do the lecture circuit.

She has no business in elected office, unless she's willing to start at the bottom and work her way up.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:11 AM

31. She has raised a couple of important issues in her campaign

 

Why do we have such a bloated military that consumes a huge portion of GDP...and still not feel secure?

Why are we all debating how to pay for "sick care" when nobody wants to talk about why we are getting sicker?

She will not be in this long, but I am glad that SOMEONE is stepping back and re-framing the questions.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:48 AM

32. Williamson will head the Department of Love in the next administration.

 

Couldn't resist.
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Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:07 AM

42. lol

 




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