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bloom

(11,635 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:11 PM Jul 2019

After watching the 2 debates these are the candidates I think have a chance

(The others either don't have enough of a 'presence', or they don't know enough for the job, or some other problem.)

Amy Klobuchar

Bernie Sanders

Elizabeth Warren

Beto O'Rourke

Cory Booker

Kamala Harris

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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After watching the 2 debates these are the candidates I think have a chance (Original Post) bloom Jul 2019 OP
Agreed. I probably would drop Klobuchar. sharedvalues Jul 2019 #1
Yes to Inslee bloom Jul 2019 #4
I agree, Klobuchar has no chance. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #15
I don't think Sanders has a chance radical noodle Jul 2019 #2
Maybe not. bloom Jul 2019 #6
Realistically, I agree radical noodle Jul 2019 #10
Agree with all of those. Tipperary Aug 2019 #16
Disagree about Klobuchar. Music Man Jul 2019 #3
It will be interesting to see how it shakes out in the next week or so. bloom Jul 2019 #5
I agree with you there. Music Man Jul 2019 #7
I'm looking forward cannabis_flower Jul 2019 #9
Mostly can't agree. The poll numbers are just not there Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #8
I don't really care what Biden's poll numbers are at this point. bloom Aug 2019 #14
No ... I think Beto and Booker don't have Raine Jul 2019 #11
It's a 2-person race. Ultimately, it'll come down to Biden and Harris. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #12
I don't think Biden is that strong bloom Aug 2019 #20
I also think his strength is overstated, but I give him better odds than Warren. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #23
The Black vote decides this race. joshcryer Aug 2019 #21
Yep. People are over-complicating this race. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #22
My list is... SaschaHM Aug 2019 #13
My choices Peacetrain Aug 2019 #17
Looking into the future, I think these candidates have the best chance of becoming our nominee: mtnsnake Aug 2019 #18
That's pretty much mine except for Klobuchar. I would love to see Inslee gain traction. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #19
 

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. Agreed. I probably would drop Klobuchar.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jul 2019

And I would add Julián Castro.

And several second-tier candidates have distinguished themselves enough to make a great case for cabinet secretary:
- Inslee
- Bennet (but keep him in the Senate)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
4. Yes to Inslee
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jul 2019

And various ones could have a place somewhere.

I was thinking Castro except for that I don't think enough was done for Flint - and if he had something to do with that - which it sounds like he did - then that's a problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
15. I agree, Klobuchar has no chance.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:18 AM
Aug 2019

As I said elsewhere, I don't see where she offers anything that isn't available in stronger candidates like Biden, Harris, Buttigieg, or even Beto. Her "lane" is too crowded, and she's driving a sub-compact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
2. I don't think Sanders has a chance
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jul 2019

nor Beto, nor Amy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bloom

(11,635 posts)
6. Maybe not.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jul 2019

I don't think Pete does, either. Maybe in 8 years - if he gets some experience at the National level - in some role or other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
10. Realistically, I agree
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:39 PM
Jul 2019

I personally would vote for Pete over the other candidates if the primary was held tomorrow. That doesn't mean that I believe he can win. You notice I didn't suggest adding him to your list of possibilities. I think he is the best person for the job right now, but he just doesn't have the name recognition.

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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
16. Agree with all of those.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:29 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
3. Disagree about Klobuchar.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:25 PM
Jul 2019

She is exceptionally smart and quick witted, but her campaign just isn't taking traction. I think most voters can't think of a single thing in the past two debates that distinguishes her. She's from the Midwest... maybe?

I also don't see O'Rourke taking off.

I think it will come down to Biden, Sanders, Warren, and Harris. I'd like to think Buttigieg will be in the mix, but I'm not sure (I say that with Buttigieg currently being my #1). Booker maybe and Castro maybe will be in the final tier.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
5. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out in the next week or so.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:28 PM
Jul 2019

I thought Biden looked like he was done. He was not keeping up.

I would put the top 3 as Warren, Harris, Sanders (except that I don't know if Sanders can make it, either.)

So that makes it Warren and Harris.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
7. I agree with you there.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:33 PM
Jul 2019

Warren and Harris certainly have the momentum now, and I think they'll absolutely be there at the end.

I sense some fatigue from voters over Sanders and Biden, even though Sanders had a good debate last night.

What will be interesting is to see how the primaries will play out, as Sanders, Harris, and Warren are much closer to each other politically than Biden, and they would seem to split a similar voting block, leaving Biden to clean up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
9. I'm looking forward
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jul 2019

to Elizabeth Warren being on the stage with Joe Biden. I didn't think Biden did well in either debate. In particular, several times he completely ignored the question and went off in another direction. I think Elizabeth is going to wipe the floor with him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
8. Mostly can't agree. The poll numbers are just not there
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:34 PM
Jul 2019

You do realize that the average voter does not pick their candidate based on debates

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bloom

(11,635 posts)
14. I don't really care what Biden's poll numbers are at this point.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:06 AM
Aug 2019

Typically the winner is not ahead in the polls the year before. That just reflects name recognition - not who people think would actually be the best candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Raine

(30,540 posts)
11. No ... I think Beto and Booker don't have
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:40 PM
Jul 2019

much of a chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. It's a 2-person race. Ultimately, it'll come down to Biden and Harris.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:05 AM
Aug 2019

Sanders was never going to be the nominee for reasons that have been discussed repeatedly. And Warren can't win because of Sanders. Mayor Pete will fade.

That leaves just 2 candidates who are polling well, Biden and Harris. The Black vote will be key, as always. And the key to Harris winning over Black Biden supporters will be her doing well in the early states (the way Obama did in 2008 against Clinton). We'll have our nominee after Super Tuesday, just as we did in 2016 (Bernie Math aside).

Maybe Booker or Inslee or Castro will surge but I doubt it. When the dust settles, it's Biden or Harris.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

bloom

(11,635 posts)
20. I don't think Biden is that strong
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:54 AM
Aug 2019

I think he is just riding the name recognition wave.

I see Warren and Harris as the strongest candidates. And Bernie - but I think his embrace of socialism probably would hurt him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
23. I also think his strength is overstated, but I give him better odds than Warren.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:36 PM
Aug 2019

If Sanders wasn't running, Warren would stand a better chance. They'll hurt one another in Iowa and New Hampshire. And I don't see either doing very well on Super Tuesday.

There's a lack of enthusiasm for Biden, but he's a known quantity and he benefits from the narrative that says we need an old white male to defeat an old white male.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
21. The Black vote decides this race.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:58 AM
Aug 2019

Just like it did in 2016.

Warren and Sanders just are a non-starter.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
22. Yep. People are over-complicating this race.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:33 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
13. My list is...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:13 AM
Aug 2019

Harris.
Warren.
Biden.

Booker isn't connecting w/ voters despite his performance in these things. Beto's shine/luster has been stolen by Buttigieg. Sanders, imo, had too many Warren and Biden voters in his 2016 coalition that have since gone home and they probably won't come back.

Ultimately, it will come between those 3 w/ Biden winning, but Warren or Harris having a 2nd place finish and a strong passionate following necessitating a unity ticket despite how nasty the primary may get (which tbh is pretty tame so far despite what people's supporters will cry about on DU). Biden has to be careful not to fall into the Clinton 2008 trap though. If he takes the nomination, it's because of his strength with black voters. His attacks on Harris may run the risk of turning them off of him and on to her if they're not planned perfectly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
17. My choices
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:31 AM
Aug 2019

Biden..

Buttigieg

Warren

Klobuchar

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
18. Looking into the future, I think these candidates have the best chance of becoming our nominee:
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:43 AM
Aug 2019

in this order:

1: Warren

2: Buttigieg (I think he has a better chance than what most people are giving him)

3: Sanders

4: Biden

5: Harris

6: Bennet (Look out for this guy in the coming months)

7: Klobuchar

8: Castro

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Autumn

(45,049 posts)
19. That's pretty much mine except for Klobuchar. I would love to see Inslee gain traction. nt
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:53 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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