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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:17 PM

 

Why is the Sanders campaign (and its fans) doxxing liberal critics on Twitter??

This isn't the first time, either...


























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Reply Why is the Sanders campaign (and its fans) doxxing liberal critics on Twitter?? (Original post)
Blue_Tires Aug 2019 OP
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:20 PM

1. I've always sensed a Russian troll

 

Infestation with the Sanders Campaign... especially back in 2016 ... Apparently they have returned...Sanders is unsuspecting of such shenanigans...
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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:26 PM

4. I work with a bunch of Sanders supporters.

 

They were ruthless in the last election and then a bunch of them stayed home because he didn't win the nomination. Some may be Russian trolls, but he has a few trolls of his own. I don't believe they are clueless to this going on.
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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:21 PM

18. few may be an understatement nt

 

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:51 PM

22. Blaming the failure on Bernie Bros.

 

Most Sanders supporters voted for Clinton but nevermind nuance.
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Response to MarcA (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:10 PM

37. How

 

do you know? They were pretty nasty then. Besides I only support true members of the Democratic Party.
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:03 PM

45. Ditto.

 

N/T
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:59 PM

48. Statistics.

 



Sanders supporters were actually more supportive of the Democratic nominee than other voters were in the previous contested election. 12 % of Sanders supporters voted for Trump over Clinton. Compare that with 2008 when 17 % of Clinton supporters voted for McCain over Obama.



More.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 08:59 PM

65. Data generally is enlightening.

 




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Response to lapucelle (Reply #65)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:12 PM

67. For those who really like data, here's a link to the complete study.

 

Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:19 PM - Edit history (1)

https://dataverse.harvard.edu/file.xhtml?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/GDF6Z0/RK0ONG&version=4.0

Guide to the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey

Stephen Ansolabehere, PI (Harvard University)
Brian Schaffner, co-PI (University of Massachusetts Amherst)
Sam Luks, co-PI (YouGov)

August 2017

The 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Study was supported by the National Science Foundation Award # 1559125.


Here's a direct link to the pdf.

https://dataverse.harvard.edu/api/access/datafile/:persistentId?persistentId=doi:10.7910/DVN/GDF6Z0/RK0ONG

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #65)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:01 PM

70. Thank you for posting these facts

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #70)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:39 PM

74. There is a real problem in scope shift when anyone uses overall percentages

 

to try to reach comparative conclusions about numbers in the relative whole sets and/or about numbers in any subsets (i.e. states).

That's what makes the numbers data about the Sanders to Trump voters in WI, MI, and PA so stunningly revealing.

And that's why it's important to look at all of the facts, including the data.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #65)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

75. So what are the matching stats from 2008?

 

and before, if you don't have those you're just posting meaningless numbers.
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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #75)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:51 PM

78. If you want the data, it's probably on line somewhere.

 

Do a search.

If you want to save yourself some time, however, simply ask yourself whether the numbers you seek exceed the margin of victory in any crucial swing state, thus costing the candidate who won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes an electoral college victory predicated on 76,000 votes across three specific states.

And remember that no matter what the numbers data (or for that matter the relative percentages data) might say, the fact remains that the "Hillary to a non Democrat voters" did not cost Democrats the 2008 election.

Democrats won that year.

Therefore the numbers I posted are very meaningful.


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Response to lapucelle (Reply #65)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:46 AM

98. Those are inconvenient facts.

 

You should stop posting such things.
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Response to progressoid (Reply #48)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:14 PM

76. Yeah.. and how many voted for Stein?

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #76)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:29 AM

80. Apparently most of his campaign staff. And his wife.

 

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #80)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:37 AM

81. Yeah, BS' top staff hires... and thousands more..

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #81)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 07:59 AM

126. GOP voter suppression was even BIGGER

 

It’s difficult to count uncast votes, but there were clearly thousands of them as a result of the voter-suppression measures. In 2014, according to a Wisconsin federal court, three hundred thousand registered voters in that state lacked the forms of identification that Republican legislators deemed necessary to cast their ballots. (The G.O.P. likes some forms of I.D. better than others. In Texas, a gun permit works; student identification does not.) In Milwaukee County, which has a large African-American population, sixty thousand fewer votes were cast in 2016 than in 2012. To put it another way, Clinton received forty-three thousand fewer votes in that county than Barack Obama did—a number that is nearly double Trump’s margin of victory in all of Wisconsin.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/12/12/the-real-voting-scandal-of-2016
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Response to EndGOPPropaganda (Reply #126)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 12:13 AM

129. Yes, I know

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #76)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:35 AM

87. A few.

 

But they likely weren't going to vote for a Democrat anyway.

The bigger question we should be asking is, "why did we lose so many of our core Democrats to Trump?" Why did 42% of union members vote for trump? Or 8% of registered Democrats? Or 14% of LGBT voters?

Or this one; 28% of Latino voters went for trump! With all the shit he spewed about "drug dealers", "rapists" etc., what made 28% of Latino voters support him? He actually got more support from Latino voters than Obama did in 2012.

Or how about women? 41% thought that the pussy-grabber was a better choice than a female candidate. Even 7% of Democratic women voted for him. WTF!



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Response to progressoid (Reply #87)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:47 AM

88. Thousands and Thousands..

 


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Response to Cha (Reply #88)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:46 AM

91. To make matters worse...

 

A new study co-authored by political science professors and a policy analyst from the think tank Demos finds that Donald Trump’s electoral college victory in November depended heavily on an increase in white voter turnout and an even bigger decrease in turnout among African-American voters—particularly in the key swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

Comparing data from the voter file vendor Catalist and the U.S. Census Bureau, the researchers concluded: “Without those shifts in turnout from various racial and ethnic groups, these pivotal states might have gone not to Trump but to Clinton — giving Clinton an electoral college victory.”

The study, published Monday in the Washington Post‘s Monkey Cage blog, found that between 2012 and 2016, white voter turnout jumped 2.4 percent nationally, while black voter turnout fell 4.7 percent.

The split was even more dramatic in the midwestern states that tipped the scales for Trump. In Ohio, black voter turnout dropped 7.5 percent; in Wisconsin, it declined 12.3 percent; and in Michigan, it was down 12.4 percent.




4.4 million 2012 Obama voters stayed home in 2016 — more than a third of them black

2016 was an election cycle in which Trump’s margin of victory was one of the narrowest in U.S. history. It came down to about 78,000 votes in three states, including Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. It’s hard not to wonder, then, how the decrease in turnout among black voters might have affected the outcome. In Michigan, where 14 percent of residents are black, Trump won by 10,704 votes of 4.8 million cast. In Pennsylvania, he won by 44,000 of 6.2 million cast — with blacks making up more than a tenth of the population. Clinton wins those states, and the 2016 race is essentially a tie.



The block of white voters who backed Trump is much bigger than the block of black voters who stayed home. (About 5 million white Obama 2012 voters supported Trump; about 1.6 million black voters stayed home.) But in an election where tweaking any number of dials might have changed the result, it’s interesting to consider the ramifications in the shift in black turnout.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/03/12/4-4-million-2012-obama-voters-stayed-home-in-2016-more-than-a-third-of-them-black/


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Response to progressoid (Reply #91)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:12 AM

93. Propaganda had some impact, unfortunately:

 

"Among the most unjust consequences of ... branding Clinton as an establishment tool was the effect on young African Americans. Their parents -- particularly their mothers -- were virtually solid in their support for Clinton, and that wasn't the result of her racial 'pandering' (as Trump later suggested) but rather Hillary's quiet, steady work, over decades, on issues of 'kitchen-table' important to black families and the relationships she had built with black leaders. That history was either unknown or ignored ... ; Clinton 'has to be willing to get out of what's comfortable and get on the streets,' said one, obviously ignorant of the fact that at the age of twenty-four, Hillary had been a civil rights activist who went undercover to investigate discrimination in public schools. Hilary was also the first candidate to pay attention to the Flint, Michigan water crisis, joining forces with Flint's mayor ... . But like Clinton's work on LGBTQ issues, decades old rather than campaign inspired, none of this made it into flashy stories headlining her lifelong commitment to racial, gender, and sexual justice."

Instead we heard "super-predator." "She also apologized profusely for using the 'super-predator' label, even though in her speech it was not aimed at African American youth but the dealers who exploited them. (I strongly suspect 'predator,' for child-advocate Clinton, was less inflected racially than with connotations of child abuse.) But for too many millennials, both black and white, '1994 Crime Bill' and 'super-predator' said all one needed to know about Clinton. Some spoke as though she was personally responsible for the spike in mass incarceration that was a consequence of her husband's bill."

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Response to betsuni (Reply #93)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 03:32 AM

94. Plus an enabling and complicit media.

 


Donald Trump succeeded in shaping the election agenda. Coverage of Trump overwhelmingly outperformed coverage of Clinton. Clinton’s coverage was focused on scandals, while Trump’s coverage focused on his core issues.



Attempts by the Clinton campaign to define her campaign on competence, experience, and policy positions were drowned out by coverage of alleged improprieties associated with the Clinton Foundation and emails. Coverage of Trump associated with immigration, jobs, and trade was greater than that on his personal scandals.



...https://cyber.harvard.edu/publications/2017/08/mediacloud



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Response to betsuni (Reply #93)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

139. Yes. This was a Republican operation, funded by billionaire Mercer

 




Article from 2018 still applies
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Response to EndGOPPropaganda (Reply #139)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

141. They'll do the same thing to the next nominee.

 

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Response to progressoid (Reply #87)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:23 AM

90. From "Identity Crisis":

 

"Why did Clinton fail to perform better among women voters? One reason is the weaker gender solidarity among women. For example, in the September 2016 ... Presidential Election Panel Study, only about a third of women said that being a woman was 'extremely important' to their identity, while 61 percent of blacks said their race was 'extremely important.' That lack of gender solidarity was politically consequential too. Hillary Clinton was significantly less popular than Obama was among the majority of women who did not see gender as extremely important to their identities. Thus, Clinton's performance among women in both the Democratic primary and the general election confirmed past research showing that race and partisanship are more important than gender in how people vote. The salience of race and partisanship helps explain why Clinton lost white women by 9 points -- a deficit larger than Barack Obama's in 2008 and Al Gore's in 2000.

"A more important explanation for the drop in African American turn-out had to do with Obama and Clinton themselves. When Obama ran in 2008 and 2012, black turnout was over 5 percent higher than it had been in any election on record. Obama's two campaigns confirmed research showing that African-Americans' in-group identity -- their identification with blacks as a group -- impacts how they think and act in politics. ... It was arguably unrealistic to expect similarly high levels of black turnout for a white democratic candidate in 2016. That does not mean that Clinton was unpopular among African-Americans.

"The activation of racial attitudes helped Trump more than Clinton. Despite the ongoing alignment of racial attitudes and partisanship, as of 2012 a substantial minority of white Obama voters still expressed less favorable views of immigration, undocumented immigrants, African Americans and other minority groups. Trump's appeal to these voters helped ensure that Obama supporters in 2012 who voted for Trump in 2016 outnumbered Romney supporters who voted for Clinton. And because these voters were disproportionately represented in battle ground states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, they helped Trump win the Electoral College -- especially when the coalition that elected Obama did not show up for Clinton in comparable numbers. Before the election the prevailing wisdom was that the country's growing diversity would help the Democrats continue to win the White House. Trump's victory showed that the backlash against that diversity could be a winning issue, too."
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Response to progressoid (Reply #87)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 02:48 AM

92. Also:

 

"Although Latino group identity has grown stronger over time, Latinos still vary in how much they identify with other Latinos, which depends on factors such as their country of origin, generation, immigration experiences, socioeconomic status, and English proficiency. Moreover, Latinos who identify less strongly with other Latinos are less likely to respond to appeals to ethnic identity, which are often the go-to tactic for Democratic candidates who want to mobilize Latinos. Similarly, Latinos with a weaker identity are harder to mobilize in response to xenophobic rhetoric. Before 2016, Democrats had built considerable support among Latinos with a stronger group identity. In 2012, the ANES showed that Obama won the support of nearly 90 percent of Latinos who said that being Hispanic was an 'extremely important' part of their identity, as well as about 90 percent of Latinos with a strong sense of linked fate with other Latinos. But about 19 percent of Latinos said that being Hispanic was 'not at all' or only 'a little' important to their identity, and fewer than 50 percent of them voted for Obama. Support for Obama also dropped to 70 percent among those with a weaker sense of linked fate. In 2016, the same patterns held. Latinos with weaker group identities did not rally to Clinton, despite Trump's rhetoric ... . Latinos with a weak group identity were still much less likely to support Clinton -- about 40 points less likely -- than were Latinos with the strongest identity. This relationship was essentially the same as in 2012."
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Response to progressoid (Reply #87)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:23 AM

130. Whataboutism does not excuse the efforts of Putin and stein

 

I have been volunteering on voter protection issues for a long time. I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel program and helped run the Texas statewide voter protection program yes there was voter suppression in Wisconsin but there was also efforts by Putin and Stein that also cost Clinton the election

In the real world there can be multiple causative events each of which contribute to an outcome. The existence of voter suppression was one cause but the efforts of Stein played a role also
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:22 PM

73. So do I but not because the D party is god like or perfect, but because we have a

 

TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO PARTY SYSTEM

which means a no vote or a vote for anyone other than a Democrat is a vote for fascist killers

Which means ANYONE who does NOT vote for whoever the dem is is GUILTY OF THE SAME CRIMES RUMP IS GUILTY OF
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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #37)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

102. +1000.

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #102)

Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:36 AM

146. I thought the subject was Doxxing

 

The Hoarse Whisperer.. Sure veered Off course!


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Response to MarcA (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:16 PM

38. There's a difference between Sanders supporters and the Bros

 

In fact, most 2016 Sanders supporters aren't even supporting him this time around.
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Response to MarcA (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:18 PM

39. They had a part.

 

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:57 PM

152. If they are Bernie Bros and not Russian trolls

 

We should be enlisting their help to go after Republicans

I am done with the "They go low, we go high" BS.
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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #152)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:24 PM

154. But they will tell you both parties are the same if their candidate doesn't get in or their grudge

 

is heavy on DNC manipulation that kept him out
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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:29 PM

6. Sanders SHOULD NOT be "unsuspecting of such shenanigans", his National Press Secretary....

 

....was the first to call for the doxxing. He hired her, she's in his inner circle. Why is she still working for him?

This is what started it, it's HER tweet using her official campaign twitter account:

Briahna Joy Gray @briebriejoy

National Press Secretary #BernieSanders2020.



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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:14 PM

15. +1. He knows what's going on

 



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:20 PM

50. sanders is known to be a micro manager

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #50)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:49 AM

103. Except, oddly, when it comes to his campaign writing a $30,000 check for sexual harassment

 


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Response to dalton99a (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:06 PM

57. Of course he does. He doesn't get

 

to play innocent when it's been reported he micromanages his campaign. He's the one who hired them.

The way candidates run their campaign is the way they'd run the office if won.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:15 PM

23. This lady is one of the senior people in the sanders campaign

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:34 PM

25. National Press Secretary for what will ultimately be a $100-$200 million organization, and....

 

...she was "naive"? Why doesn't she appear on MSNBC, I'm sure they'd have her, so she can address her issues directly with them instead of sicking their followers on a tweeter.
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:05 PM

46. I am being kind...

 

Just food for thought....just saying, this is where my mood is today...
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:59 PM

56. The buck stops at the top.

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #56)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:28 PM

61. Unless you're busy getting the message out.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:24 PM

150. Thank you, George!

 

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:45 PM

8. Briahna Joy Gray is not a Russian troll, she's his National Press Secretary.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:26 PM

19. If Brihana Joy Gray is a Russian operative

 

then the people who hired her can be assumed to be Russian operatives as well.

I am reminded of paragraph 43 of Mueller's IRA indictment

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

43. By 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used their fictitious online personas to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election. They engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.
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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:43 PM

53. Who voted for Jill Stein, and has no regrets doing so, and why Sanders does not deserve to be the

 

Democratic nominee


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Response to still_one (Reply #53)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:18 AM

83. A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump

 

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

21. "Sanders is unsuspecting of such shenanigans..."

 

The "shenanigans" start and end with him. Well, they actually start and continue at his orders. It's who he is as a person.
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Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:36 PM

26. Someone should send him the plaque that sat on Harry Truman's desk for years....

 

...."The buck stops here"!

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Response to George II (Reply #26)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:40 PM

28. He would have it shipped to a field office of his. NT

 

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Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #28)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:36 PM

44. Unopened.

 

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:46 PM

29. Far Point, just look at his staff, no sensing needed there.

 

They have names.

It is true that a major Russian social media tactic has been to AUGMENT, spreading far, wide, and very frequently the hostile messages from Sanders' and Trump's campaigns, plus extras as opportunities suggest. The "surrogates" speak and Russia copies what it likes and targets it to most American voters. Their FB messages alone were delivered personally to 126 million Americans.

Worth noting that, obviously, this creates an incentive for the wrong kind of people to create messages that Russia feels are especially poisonous and especially worth spreading.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #29)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:34 PM

63. The names are:

 

Campaign co-chair Nina Turner - Jill Stein voter
National Speechwriter David Sirota - Jill Stein voter
National Press Secretary Briahna Joy Gray - Jill Stein voter

And top adviser to the campaign, Cornell West - Jill Stein voter
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Response to George II (Reply #63)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 11:35 PM

77. And there's the new BS hire, DrDooleyMD.

 


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Response to lapucelle (Reply #77)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:20 AM

84. I see how this lady became a part of the sanders campaign team

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #84)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:31 AM

86. DrDooleyMD also coined a new verb: "HillaRig"

 



#UsefulNewVerbs

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #86)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:44 PM

157. Who is surprised by this?

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #77)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

105. There are posts telling people to "Listen to Dr.Dooley" right here on FB...

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=226713
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Response to George II (Reply #63)

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:26 PM

162. Thank You!

 

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:07 AM

143. Sarandon has shown up again

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #143)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:57 AM

144. Waiting for Sanders to tweet "Listen to Sarandon."

 

This is not how Democratic candidates campaign, it's just not.
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Response to FarPoint (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:56 PM

32. It is his staff -- the buck stops here

 

No matter what candidate it is.

"Unsuspecting"? That gets supervisors fired in my world.
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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:50 AM

104. Well, unless it's a $30,000 sexual harassment settlement paid out by his campaign

 


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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:21 PM

2. Did the Hoarse Whisperer tweet

 

something that was untrue?

Doxxing is such a ***** move.

Mahalo, Blue_Tires
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:25 PM

3. Shameful

 

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Response to mcar (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:03 PM

34. Took the word right out of my mouth, +1. nt

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:29 PM

5. Isn't this pretty standard behavior from his surrogates?

 

It's the same thing that happened with those young women who dared to ask Bernie probing questions at the CNN town halls.
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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:46 PM

9. Yes.

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

7. Sirota is retweeting these doxxing tweets

 




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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:54 PM

13. +1. Typical Sirota, catapulting the propaganda

 

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:58 PM

14. It's not just Sirota, it's Briahna Joy Gray too - see post #6.

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:28 AM

96. We knew this type of behavior was

 

coming the second BS hired Sirota and he deleted over 20,000 of his tweets.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:48 PM

10. Can someone explain to me what "doxxing" mean? Please?

 

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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:52 PM

11. Revealing personal information like names, addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc....

 

..."Documenting", i.e., doxxing.
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Response to George II (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:52 PM

30. Thanks. This is really unbecoming any public official

 

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Response to question everything (Reply #30)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:54 PM

54. Work numbers released as well.

 

SMH
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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:53 PM

12. digging up peoples personal data

 

then publishing it on the internet with malicious intent.
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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:53 PM

31. Thanks. Malicious intent it is. Hope none of the candidates supports this.

 


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Response to question everything (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:35 PM

47. Well one candidate clearly does. His senior staff peole are

 

conducting this doxxing campaign. And it's not the first time.
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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:59 PM

33. Everything everyone else said, but the intent is brigading

 

"Brigading is an online harassment tactic where a group of people rally against an individual (or occasionally against a small group of people) in a coordinated, sustained and organized way." -- for those who don't know.

Brigading, swatting, etc. People have breakdowns and go into hiding at safe houses over this garbage.
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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #33)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:24 PM

41. Thanks. I really think that "Social media" will be the agent that will bring this down our

 

democracy.

And I suppose these days one really has to be strong enough to just stop visiting these sites, or just ignore the attacks.
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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:06 PM

36. And occasionally, the individuals home gets 'swatted'

 

FTR, "swatting" is calling local law enforcement and reporting shots fired of dead bodies or a suicide attempt.

Wiki-"Swatting is a criminal harassment tactic of deceiving an emergency service (via such means as hoaxing an emergency services dispatcher) into sending a police and emergency service response team to another person's address. This is triggered by false reporting of a serious law enforcement emergency, such as a bomb threat, murder, hostage situation, or other alleged incident. It can also be triggered by a false report of a "mental health" emergency, such as reporting that a person is allegedly suicidal or homicidal and may or may not be armed.[3] In the United States, the maximum prison sentence handed down by a court in March 2019 on a swatter was 20 years in jail for a fatal 2017 swatting violation.[4]"


Earlier this week author Ijeoma Oluo home was 'swatted'. Her son was alone and sleeping.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:26 PM

42. Yes, I've heard of swatting. I think that individuals citizens were killed

 

Was a call from California into a home in the Midwest someplace.

Just extra load on the already strained police force.

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Response to question everything (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:14 AM

82. Not "just" an extra load on the police

 

If the person swatted is a person of color, and most especially if the person is Black, it's a straight out attempted murder. Cops kill African Americans for such things as holding a cell phone, playing in the park, driving down the highway, standing in their yard, and many other everyday things. Anyone who calls the cops on a Black person who is not an immediate threat to others is risking killing them, and swatting them is trying to murder them.

Senator Sanders might end up claiming he is too busy to see what is going on in his campaign again, but after the egregious behavior in his campaign the last time, he has no excuse this time. His top staffers are harassing and encouraging others to harass his critics, and he is responsible for that.
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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:11 PM

71. From my twitter feed

 


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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:12 AM

79. Self-proclaimed internet sleuths like to try and identify people

 

by analyzing social media histories, forum posts, security footage, etc. Quite often, these "experts" ID the wrong person, and then it's highly likely that the misidentified person's life - and perhaps the lives of those close to them - gets turned upside down, or worse: death threats; targeted vandalism; ruined relationships; destroyed careers. You name it.

We can see that the doxxing is opposed in this case. That stance should prevail regardless of the personal politics of doxxors and doxxees.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:16 PM

16. twitter is a vast sewer of fake news, lies, and rumours nt

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:19 PM

17. The whole campaign consists of

 

fake populist slogans, unachievable platitudes that sound good and dirty tricks/ratfucking.

Not surprising at all.

I want one of his supporters condemn this -- just one -- but it won't happen.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:39 PM

20. They have compared Bidens health care proposal to a terrorist attack.

 

Played a game of "who said it" comparing Biden to Trump.

Seems people are starting to get who he and those he surrounds himself are. The question in your op isn't necessary. It's at the core of their existence.
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Response to SouthernProgressive (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:31 PM

24. That's Sirota for you. Meanwhile there are precious few details of their "plan"....

 

....just outlines and bullet points.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:39 PM

27. Help me understand why this is a thing

 

Hello,

Be gentle with me. First post. I don't fully understand twitter, and I'm not a very big social media user. I pretty much think that the communities of places like youtube, facebook, and other sites where comments can be made are among the most sick and toxic communities I've ever seen.

Because of that, I think that anonymity on the internet breeds lack of accountability for behavior. Doxxing is when someone reveals the real world identity of an online user, is that right?

I don't think doing that is appropriate behavior for a campaign. But I have to say... I feel like if people couldn't hide behind anonymity on the internet the world would be a much different and better place.

My name is Andrew Yoder, and I live in Eugene Oregon.
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Response to FreeLookMode (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:10 PM

59. Well Andrew Yoder.. know this..

 

It's wrong to Dox. That's their private information. Those who dox are just little tattle tales 'cause they can't the truth.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:06 PM

35. An Ongoing Aversion To Truth & Transparency

 

by their fruits ye shall know them
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:22 PM

40. Bernie's US Supporters Would Never Do That!

 

Nt
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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:31 PM

43. Briahna Joy Gray is a US supporter and top aide to BS.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #43)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:09 PM

111. From my twitter feed

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #111)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:21 PM

116. Just a little earlier today Briahna Joy Gray sicked some of BS' supporters on a woman....

 

....on twitter. They were so relentlessly nasty the poor woman deleted her account.

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:14 PM

49. Disgusting.

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:23 PM

51. this aged well

 





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Response to Celerity (Reply #51)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:58 PM

55. Oh my

 

That is an interesting development.
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112. How so??

 


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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:18 PM

115. Because the twitter troll feigning outrage engages in the behavior he pretends to decry?

 

Just a guess.
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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:52 PM

118. +1

 

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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:41 PM

52. I recall supporters of an unnamed candidate in the past who attacked anyone who didn't support...

 

Their guy.

I am sure some others here recall the time as well.

A campaign such as this is dangerous and a sure fire way to give trump another win.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:08 PM

58. Briahna Joy Gray needs to resign or be fired.

 

This is unethical, unprofessional, and just plain disgusting.

Any candidate who doesn't possess the requisite moral center to do the right thing in a case like this should never serve as president.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #58)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:14 PM

60. Doncha know she

 

played innocent after the doxxing.

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Response to Cha (Reply #60)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:30 PM

62. BS campaign workers turned whistle blowers warned about the toxic, predatory culture.

 

No one can claim ignorance this time around.

Her employment by and association with any Democratic campaign should be

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:04 PM

66. Why are pro-Sanders voters called fans

 

and other camps are called supporters?

Sanders still has 12-20% polling support. Disagreement with tactics is all good, but more respect for fellow Democrats who support different candidates than ourselves would be a good move for this board.
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Response to BlueWI (Reply #66)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:32 PM

68. delegitimisation via linguistic repetition nt

 

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Thu Aug 15, 2019, 10:20 PM

72. You got that right. n/t

 

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Response to BlueWI (Reply #66)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:27 AM

85. The doxxing was done by members of sanders' campaign team

 


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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:49 AM

89. Thanks, Goth.. no "respect" for Doxxers.

 

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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:07 PM

110. The doxing of HoarseWisperer was at the request of Bernie's National Press Secretary.

 


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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:10 PM

113. And they whine about press treatment

 

even though I've yet to see anything in the mainstream press about this.
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #110)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:23 PM

117. Yes.. they can't handle the truth.

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #85)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 09:27 PM

133. That wasn't the question.

 

Be honest and answer a direct question - why are Sanders supporters called fans? Do you call Biden supporters fans?

This kind of misdirection prevents working toward consensus on issues and maximizing electoral strength. Sanders is the second most popular candidate for the Democratic nomination, with Elizabeth Warren close. This indicates an interest in systematic change, not bob and weave politics. The issues are too grave for misdirection and games. You do this board and the electorate a disservice by not focusing on the issues and respecting the preferences of 12/18/20% of primary voters who support Sanders.


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Response to BlueWI (Reply #133)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 09:48 PM

134. Great post and a great point

 

I see this 'fan' thing a lot. It's most certainly used deliberately.
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Response to melman (Reply #134)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

135. Thanks!

 

I think it's really important to respect differences in which candidates we support. The lack of respect for Sanders supporters is quite obvious on this board, and it's disappointing.
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Response to BlueWI (Reply #133)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

136. Why dwell on what a candidate's followers are called instead of addressing the point of the post?

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 09:35 PM

69. People who partake in political Twitter wars

 

won't get much sympathy from me. They are looking for action.
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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #69)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:05 AM

95. People who dox those because they don't

 

like what truths they've told are trying to scare others into keeping quiet.

In the end it is their karma that will come calling and it won't be pretty.
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Response to Cha (Reply #95)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

99. That wasn't "doxing"

 

You don’t get to make up your own definition of words.
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #99)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:40 AM

100. Are you defending this behavior?

 

Are any other campaigns engaging in this behavior? Is this behavior acceptable?
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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #99)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:17 PM

107. Ok. Then what would you call it?

 

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #99)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 04:45 PM

108. Though, if we're talking definitions

 

Not sure how or where it doesn't fit. Here are multiple sources that all include revealing the personal identity of the victim. I bolded the relevant parts:

http://heimdalsecurity.com/blog/doxxing/
What is doxxing?
Doxxing is a cyber attack that involves discovering the real identity of an Internet user. The attacker then reveals that person’s details so others can target them with malicious attacks. Doxxing is analyzing information posted online by the victim in order to identify and later harass that person.


https://www.howtogeek.com/402764/what-is-doxxing-and-why-is-it-bad/

Doxxing is generally a targeted abuse, similar to harassment in real life, and unless you’ve got a target on your back, you’re probably safe. It normally affects famous people—particularly Internet famous people, such as live streamers, YouTubers, and social media celebrities. Since many of them go by an online alias, revealing their real name is a major violation of privacy.Having your name, phone number, and address posted online leaves you vulnerable to real crimes, like swatting, physical harassment, and stalking.


https://grammarist.com/new-words/doxing-and-doxxing/

Doxing is the act of publishing private information and identifying information about an individual online with intent to harm. Doxing is done in order to shame someone, encourage other online users to intimidate someone, or put the person being doxed in actual danger. Doxing may be spelled with two “x‘s”, as in doxxing. Doxingmay be used as a noun or a verb, related terms are dox, doxes, doxed, dox, doxxes, doxxed. Doxing is a new word, it was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2014. Originally, the word dox was used by computer hackers as an abbreviation for the plural word documents. In the mid-2000s dox came to mean revealing the true identity of a computer user, and by 2008 doxing came to also mean publishing private information online about an individual online, a method of harrassment.


https://cyberbullying.org/doxing-and-cyberbullying
Slang for “dropping documents,” doxing (also spelled doxxing) typically occurs when someone collects another’s private personal information, such as a home address, contact information or social security number, and subsequently broadcasts or “outs” that information to the public without permission. Crash Override Network (a task force made up of people who have previously been targeted) describes doxxing as a “tactic of mobs of anonymous online groups” whose goal is to scare targets by exposing their personal information online. While your personal information may have nothing to do with them, their objective is to make you fearful about how it could potentially lead to your own victimization. To be sure, it might be prompted by seeking revenge for a perceived affront, or to bring attention to someone who has previously operated under the mask of anonymity or pseudonymity – or might simply be done for “kicks.” The scariest part, of course, is that once your private contact details are put out there electronically, it’s difficult to get them taken down – and is therefore available for anyone with malicious or reckless motives to see, find, and use against you.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #99)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:14 PM

114. Haha.. look at this.. trying to give

 

cover to those in the OP who were Busted for what now?.. oh yeah, Doxxing. Shocking.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:06 AM

97. kick

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:45 AM

101. Intimidation. (nt)

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:28 AM

106. The sanders campaign has doxxed other people including college student

 


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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:01 PM

109. Doxxing is an act of intimidation.

 

The intent is to silence the doxxing victim.

This practice should be repudiated. Period.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 07:07 PM

120. People might find this surprising

 

but twitter doesn't consider any of that private information.




https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information
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Fri Aug 16, 2019, 09:51 PM

122. What was revealed is a LOT more than what is included in that list of "not a violation".

 

I'm sure by now, with the brouhaha that arose, much of what has been revealed has been deleted.
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Response to George II (Reply #122)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:20 PM

123. Not true

 

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Response to melman (Reply #123)

Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:24 PM

124. Color me surprised.

 

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Response to melman (Reply #120)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 08:35 AM

127. I watched the video. Seder didn't give out the guys name or private information on him

 

Isn't that whar doxing is? All he did was post a screen cap of the companies he represents with no identifying information. He kept him anonymous, he just fleshed out what "reporter" Brian Williams left out. But damn, the whisperer was exposed for what he is. I see now the reason for the vitriol he aims at Bernie. Twenty-one big one's... among others. From reading his page it must be a full-time job. I called him a jackass whisper when his tweets trashing AOC were posted.
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Response to melman (Reply #120)

Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:31 AM

149. You might find it surprising to know that targeted harrassment is against twitter rules

 

Encouraging or calling for others to harass an individual or group of people

We prohibit behavior that encourages others to harass or target specific individuals or groups with abusive behavior. This includes, but is not limited to; calls to target people with abuse or harassment online and behavior that urges offline action such as physical harassment.



https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/abusive-behavior
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 07:19 AM

125. Entitled mindset of social media populists

 

that exists on both the right and left, that are mostly white movements. Most such people are not Democrats and voted for Green/DSA/Libertarian/etc in the recent past.

Historically oppressed groups (PoC, women, gays, etc) who have legitimate reason to 'revolt' and 'act stupid' don't do this and mainly attempt to peacefully work through the centrist structure of the Dem party, ie 'wait their turn', yet others that are more privileged don't think they need to wait or show respect to those that worked for their place at the table.

Most Sanders supporters are regular Democratic voters - why it is so important for him to denounce these ugly anti-Dem elements on social media that claim to support him.

Having a different opinion, especially within a Dem primary, should not open one up to doxxing, bullying or abuse of any kind.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2019, 02:12 PM

128. From my twitter feed

 


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Response to Gothmog (Reply #128)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:43 AM

131. Everyone should read that link, it's so illuminating...

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #131)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:00 AM

142. There is some great material on that site

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #128)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 01:46 AM

132. +1

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 10:56 PM

137. The Sam Seder thing really pisses me off

 

Most of those other folks are just anonymous assholes, but Sam isn't and he needs to be more responsible about doxxing people. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if someone retweeted that slip and alerted MSNBC that one of its contributors was engaging in doxxing. MSNBC fired Sam once before for a BS reason, but firing him for this would be something else entirely.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:05 PM

138. Can someone explain why the horsey guy is entitled to anonymity for his hateful trolling?

 

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Response to melman (Reply #138)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 09:40 AM

145. Why is okay to Dox anyone?

 


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Response to melman (Reply #138)

Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:27 AM

148. You support intimidating him offline? And he's not the only one "hatefully trolling" on Twitter

 

See also the twitter feeds of: Nina Turner, David Sirota, Bri Gray, Dr Dooley...





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Response to melman (Reply #138)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:17 PM

153. I like the Hoarse Whisperer and have followed him for a long time

 

He has a great backstory that he just posted



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Response to Gothmog (Reply #153)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:24 PM

155. "I like the Hoarse Whisperer and have followed him for a long time"

 

Ask me if I'm shocked.
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Response to melman (Reply #155)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:43 PM

156. I also have a subscription to the Washington Post

 

I found this tweet by the Hoarse Whisperer to be amusing

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #156)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:16 PM

158. Sensational

 

Thanks for keeping me updated on your reading habits. Much appreciated.
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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Mon Aug 19, 2019, 11:42 PM

140. Doxxing will not work come time to vote

 


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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:02 AM

147. They attack this way because that's their nature.

 



Ms. Angelou was a strong Obama and Hillary supporter who didn't need help remembering her own advice. This is now the second time for Sanders and the people he hires counting by national elections, and this is the nth-dozen time counting by similarly defining actions.

Copied here for any who missed it posted above,

DOXXING DISSENT: HOW BERNIE SANDERS' CAMPAIGN IS WAGING WAR ON ITS OPPOSITION
https://www.vettingbernie.org/2019/08/doxxing-dissent-how-bernie-sanders.html
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #147)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:33 PM

151. Thank you for posting this. It's a good reminder AND good information!

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #151)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 08:05 PM

160. Just read only 4% of likely voters over 65 support Sanders!

 

I was initially surprised (no one gets only 4%!), but I guess 6 and 7 decades is enough time for almost everyone to have learned to recognize all types. I OD'd on this one back in the 1960s and 70s.

I'm going to also guess the WTF rate is very high among older liberals for someone who believes we're really mostly the same as Republicans. My people! Would love to meet some for drinks and discuss it.

Oh, well. This The Hill article says what itcalls "Democratic" strategists think he's just too visionary for America's most reliable voting demographic. Nooo, that wouldn't be it. My own best guess is that, like Angelou, they just learned long ago to check pols for their BS quotients.

In the Quinnipiac poll, Biden wins 48 percent from voters over 65 years old, while Warren wins 20 percent.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/460161-bernie-sanders-struggles-to-win-over-older-voters


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Response to Hortensis (Reply #147)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 08:17 PM

161. Thank you for Maya Angelou!

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Sep 6, 2019, 07:22 PM

159. K&R nt

 

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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:31 PM

163. Now they are threatening to dox a person for posting Cenk's own words.

 


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Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

164. LOL

 


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