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The Ghost of Jill Stein?
As the purity tests begin and even some of our own candidates disparage the legacy of Barack Obama in a misguided attempt to raise their standing or tarnish Mr. Biden's, I thought it might be wise to reflect on what we had as a nation before the Current Darkness. I believe the author of this article has summed it up quite nicely. Let's please retain our respect for each other and for one of the best presidents of the modern era... and vow together to support a Democrat for president no matter who that turns out to be. If we can see our way to doing that, the ghost of Jill Stein won't haunt us in 2020.
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/19/barack-obama-was-an-awesome-president-and-democrats-shouldnt-forget-that/

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Not a good sign.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,822 posts)and hear little but griping and complaining about Obama and it's hella depressing. And they refuse to believe that anything good would come from Biden. And some don't even think Warren would be good enough for them (she is a huge Bernie booster). They hate Trump but basically either believe that Obama is guilty of much of the same stuff as Trump is doing (usually regarding immigration) and/or caved too much to Republicans, paving the way for Trump. Most of them really hate(d) Hillary too. Most of them don't talk about Republican obstructionism and the role it played, stifling progress. Despite some of Obama's flaws, I certainly would rather he were still President or Hillary got elected in 2016 than what we ended up with, but most of them just see them all as equally bad. Maybe I need some new friends? I think that I have a harder time debating with my left-wing friends than I ever had with Republicans.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
unc70
(6,350 posts)I have friends all over the spectrum, all the way to rather fringe left. I never hear the kinds of positions you have described.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,893 posts)complaining about President Obama every step of the way.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Life_Long_Democrat
(81 posts)from what Trump and Republicans do refuse to get off the high horse of their "principles" rather than do something that actually helps other people.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,822 posts)however, their thinking basically is revolution, burn it all down, which is sort of understandable, given that "the system" clearly doesn't work for them and they see the Democratic Party as too incrementalism and not changing enough, fast enough.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(158,122 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,822 posts)As well as staying home

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden