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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 02:46 PM Sep 2019

Union leader: We back Bernie Sanders because he has 'petitioned for American workers'

The Hill, September 6, 2019
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/460227-union-leader-bernie-sanders-has-petitioned-for-american-workers

Union leader: We back Bernie Sanders because he has 'petitioned for American workers'

A leader at the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers of America (UE) said that the labor group backed Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) 2020 presidential bid because he has actively taken part in fighting for workers' rights.

“He’s supported many of our labor actions, he’s stood for many of the principles and policies we stand for and he’s walked the walk,” Scott Slawson, who is president of UE Local 506, told Hill.TV on Thursday.

“Even outside of campaigns, he’s been on picket lines and petitioned for American workers, so I think for a union standpoint, it was the right call,” he added.

The comments come just weeks after UE, which represents some 35,000 members nationwide, endorsed Sanders at its national convention in Pittsburgh.

The endorsement marked a win for Sanders, who has long advocated for unions.

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Union leader: We back Bernie Sanders because he has 'petitioned for American workers' (Original Post) crazytown Sep 2019 OP
So has Biden. demosincebirth Sep 2019 #1
But they endorsed Bernie. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #2
He won't win DownriverDem Sep 2019 #3
Didn't know we had a psychic in our midst. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #5
Now you do. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #9
Vsradem, many unions are notoriously self-serving Hortensis Sep 2019 #31
So? One union out of ... how many? I have no problem with demosincebirth Sep 2019 #7
35,000 members nationwide! To be honest, I've never even heard of that union before. George II Sep 2019 #23
It's a small, independent union. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #30
Real Dems DownriverDem Sep 2019 #4
I am 65 years old, have been a democrat since I turned 18. How dare you tell me I am not a real Dem vsrazdem Sep 2019 #6
Heavens to Betsy! The NERVE! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #11
Yes, definitely, and this was not directed at you, but I should have known you would have to respond vsrazdem Sep 2019 #14
Oh, please. Deal with it. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #15
No thank you. By the way, curious, why do you keep changing your preferred candidate. I have vsrazdem Sep 2019 #16
Booker too. (Thanks for noticing.) NurseJackie Sep 2019 #19
Typical. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #20
How so? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #21
I wonder if there is an all-inclusive spreadsheet somewhere tracking the candidates.... George II Sep 2019 #24
It's nice to know that someone cares enough to take such an "interest" in my previous choices. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #26
No, just notice some that fit the profile. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #27
"Profile"?????? George II Sep 2019 #29
It is a coping mechanism vsrazdem Devil Child Sep 2019 #17
Yes, I've noticed that. Its downright ugly. Too bad we can't all agree to just get rid of Trump vsrazdem Sep 2019 #18
Don't be offended. The left has been subjected to the "purity test" for several years now. Autumn Sep 2019 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2019 #8
My opposition to Senator Sanders crazytown Sep 2019 #10
I'm convinced Bernie not only stands the best chance of defeating Trump, Uncle Joe Sep 2019 #12
You could tell when they turned the camera away crazytown Sep 2019 #13
one... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #22
International Assoc of Fire Fighters for Biden (316,000 members) vs. 36,000 in this union. n/t Hoyt Sep 2019 #28
 

vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
2. But they endorsed Bernie.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:35 PM
Sep 2019
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vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
5. Didn't know we had a psychic in our midst.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:11 PM
Sep 2019
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Vsradem, many unions are notoriously self-serving
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:09 PM
Sep 2019

and often corrupt. They not uncommonly want actions that would hurt workers not in their unions. That too frequently sets up situations where unions may demand what should not be agreed to in return for endorsements. Honorable candidates who believe they could well win may thus be forced to refuse the union's terms.

That then can set up situation where trailing candidates not expected to win can pick up these rejected endorsements and be the means by which the unions punish the ones who refused them.

I haven't read about this particular case and have no reason to think this one possibility among a number is involved, but it is common enough that sophisticated people always wonder if unions are endorsing trailing instead of leading candidates for true ideological reasons, or others. Also, of course, Sanders is a senator, and the deal may merely have been in return for support in the senate.

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demosincebirth

(12,518 posts)
7. So? One union out of ... how many? I have no problem with
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:35 PM
Sep 2019

It.

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George II

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23. 35,000 members nationwide! To be honest, I've never even heard of that union before.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:53 AM
Sep 2019
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,146 posts)
30. It's a small, independent union.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019
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DownriverDem

(6,206 posts)
4. Real Dems
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 04:21 PM
Sep 2019

support candidates that are true members of the Democratic Party.

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vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
6. I am 65 years old, have been a democrat since I turned 18. How dare you tell me I am not a real Dem
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:13 PM
Sep 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Heavens to Betsy! The NERVE!
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:03 PM
Sep 2019
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vsrazdem

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14. Yes, definitely, and this was not directed at you, but I should have known you would have to respond
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:32 PM
Sep 2019
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Oh, please. Deal with it.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:35 PM
Sep 2019
Yes, definitely, and this was not directed at you,
Oh, please. Deal with it. That's what happens when someone posts on a publicly read forum. Others get to comment. If someone doesn't want others to read and comment on what they write, they always have the option to send a private message.

but I should have known you would have to respond
Glad I didn't disappoint.

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vsrazdem

(2,176 posts)
16. No thank you. By the way, curious, why do you keep changing your preferred candidate. I have
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:40 PM
Sep 2019

seen your preferred candidate listed as Sanders, Warren, now Buttigieg. Maybe you should just try undecided, unless there is some other reason.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Booker too. (Thanks for noticing.)
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

Those are (or were) my choices... Deal with it.

Maybe you should just try undecided, unless there is some other reason.
That's your advice for me, eh? Telling me what to do? How amusing.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
24. I wonder if there is an all-inclusive spreadsheet somewhere tracking the candidates....
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:55 AM
Sep 2019

...all DUers have supported since "Democratic Primaries" was opened here.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. It's nice to know that someone cares enough to take such an "interest" in my previous choices.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:12 AM
Sep 2019

It's nice to know that someone cares enough to take such an interest in my previous choices. I'm not sure whether to be flattered, or to be skeeved-out.

I wonder if there is an all-inclusive spreadsheet somewhere tracking the candidates...all DUers have supported since "Democratic Primaries" was opened here.
That seems to be a real possibility. But it's unclear to me what good purpose it would serve for anyone to be so obsessive about such a thing.

All I'm trying to say is, in my opinion, that it's such an odd thing to be fixated on... but... to each their own, I suppose.




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vsrazdem

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27. No, just notice some that fit the profile.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:16 AM
Sep 2019
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Devil Child

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17. It is a coping mechanism vsrazdem
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:42 PM
Sep 2019

Shaming voters for supporting Sen. Sanders is quite popular with some posters here.

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vsrazdem

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18. Yes, I've noticed that. Its downright ugly. Too bad we can't all agree to just get rid of Trump
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:46 PM
Sep 2019

instead of attacking each other.

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Autumn

(44,762 posts)
25. Don't be offended. The left has been subjected to the "purity test" for several years now.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

"True Democrats" has a very specific meaning, mostly used to chastise and attack the left, or to gaslight them. I take pride in failing their purity test.


https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/05/15/democrats-so-called-purity-tests-can-be-good-thing

Former president Barack Obama, whose moderate vice president Joe Biden is now in the race, recently decried the alleged “purity tests” he saw on the left. Obama worried that an “obsessive” ideological fanaticism was setting the party up for failure.

Indeed, in the political world, the term “purity test” is largely used by the establishment to chastise and attack the left.

For instance, Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders have refused to accept corporate donations for their presidential campaigns. Many outlets — The Atlantic, Politico, The Hill — described these pledges as a new Democratic “purity test” to establish progressive credentials.

Hillary Clinton scorned the idea, claiming that “under [Sanders’] “definition, President Obama is not a progressive because he took donations from Wall Street!” (Some might argue that’s accurate, as Obama has described himself as a 1980s-style “moderate Republican.”)
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Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
8. Kicked and recommended.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 05:48 PM
Sep 2019

Thanks for the thread crazytown.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. My opposition to Senator Sanders
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:00 PM
Sep 2019

is not based on ideology, but a firm conviction that he would lose the GE, barring something like another Wall Street crash. I personally would like to see him drop out ASAP but I know that is not going to happen. Anyway ... I found this ad very affecting.

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Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
12. I'm convinced Bernie not only stands the best chance of defeating Trump,
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:11 PM
Sep 2019

but of transforming our nation for the better.

That is a powerful ad crazytown, I do appreciate you posting that.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
13. You could tell when they turned the camera away
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 06:14 PM
Sep 2019

that man and woman would start crying. What price do we put on the human cost of the bottom line?

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myohmy2

(3,118 posts)
22. one...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:08 PM
Sep 2019

...hand washes the other,

" “Even outside of campaigns, he’s been on picket lines and petitioned for American workers, so I think for a union standpoint, it was the right call,” he added.

The comments come just weeks after UE, which represents some 35,000 members nationwide, endorsed Sanders at its national convention in Pittsburgh. "

...I would like to thank the Brothers and Sisters in the UE...

...it makes want to go outside and polish my Proud Union Home signs...

...

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. International Assoc of Fire Fighters for Biden (316,000 members) vs. 36,000 in this union. n/t
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019
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