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Thu Sep 19, 2019, 01:40 PM

 

Beto still beating Trump in Texas & 49.1% support for mandatory buybacks vs 28.5% oppose


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Looking at the www.uttyler.edu/... [pdf], the breakdown on mandatory buyback was 33.4% strongly support, 15.7% support, 17.6% neutral, 8.7% oppose, 19.8% strongly oppose, 4.8% aren't sure. So net 49.1% support, 28.5% oppose.
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Reply Beto still beating Trump in Texas & 49.1% support for mandatory buybacks vs 28.5% oppose (Original post)
essadaw Sep 2019 OP
liskddksil Sep 2019 #1
essadaw Sep 2019 #2
onetexan Sep 2019 #6
DrToast Sep 2019 #7
liskddksil Sep 2019 #10
essadaw Sep 2019 #3
onetexan Sep 2019 #5
customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #4
liskddksil Sep 2019 #8
customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #11
essadaw Sep 2019 #9
customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #12
jcgoldie Sep 2019 #13

Response to essadaw (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:32 PM

1. But everyone was saying Beto's bold proposal would be disastrous in Texas?

 

Or were they just fear mongering and pearl clutching.

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Response to liskddksil (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 02:47 PM

2. Hillary states plus Texas game over for Trump

 

and Beto has the ground game infrastructure to make this poll result a reality
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Response to essadaw (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:50 PM

6. agree, a TX win POTUS win. This is why Biden must pick Beto for VEEP.

 

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Response to liskddksil (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:54 PM

7. I think Beto has moved the needle on this

 

It was reasonable to think the proposal might be problematic, but I think hes been very skilled in handling it and has changed minds. Good for him and good for everyone.
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Response to DrToast (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:12 PM

10. And every other proposal

 

including a ban on current weapons of war, just became more of the compromise position. The Overton window has shifted.
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Response to essadaw (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:41 PM

3. Another poll today showing support for Beto's position of mandatory buyback

 

New Rassmussen poll also shows majority support for Beto's position

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gun-shock-majority-support-mandatory-buybacks-of-ar-15s

"Scott Rasmussen just posted results of his latest poll and found that 51% of voters at least somewhat favor a mandatory buyback while 36% are opposed."
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Response to essadaw (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:49 PM

5. Wow. The W. Examiner leans right.

 

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Response to essadaw (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 03:43 PM

4. I don't believe that

 

You are not going to get essentially half of Texas going for mandatory buybacks, at least not if your polling is accurate.

Maybe when Beto has to fold up his tent and go home, he can spend his time working on the Texas Legislature to have a mandatory buyback program there. If it can be done in Texas, then there's a chance in hell that it can be done nationally.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:10 PM

8. With a defeatist attitude like that

 

we're not got to get much of anything done.

Sure Beto might not win, but whoever does would be wise to put him on the ticket for Texas's 38 electoral votes alone, and this poll shows Beto as the most electable there.
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Response to liskddksil (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:04 PM

11. If Kamala Harris wins

 

then she might put him on the ticket. Maybe.

If anyone else wins the nomination, then Beto strikes out on either race or gender.

And, if I never ever expected him to win the nomination, my attitude is not "defeatist". It's realistic.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 04:10 PM

9. Three recent polls are now showing majority support for mandatory buyback

 

Maybe you should rethink your assumptions

In addition to the polls mentioned above, here is the one from ABC https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-fear-mass-shooting-gun-laws-poll/story?id=65414785 showing 52% national support.

Beto has been leading on this issue, reframing the conversation instead of letting the NRA do it. And either he was attuned to public opinion without the polls or he's been successfully shaping public opinion.

With regard to Texas and nationally, a key swing demographic is suburban moms. They are very open to Beto's position. Better political positioning than trying to appease weapons of war proponents
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Response to essadaw (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:06 PM

12. Polls are polls

 

if mandatory buybacks are for real, then get them enacted in the states. Bonus points if it happens in a red state.
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Response to essadaw (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 07:09 PM

13. Thank you

 

Maybe on some issues, being genuine is the best politics.
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