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I'm stunned that Harris isn't polling better in California. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 OP
I like senator harris TEB Oct 2019 #1
What's your feeling about her low home state numbers. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #2
It is concerning TEB Oct 2019 #7
Though I love them both, not two women. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #4
Great thought TEB Oct 2019 #5
Brown hast to stay in the Senate. We can't afford to lose that seat TeamPooka Oct 2019 #25
But the women would, I think. flying_wahini Oct 2019 #27
VP aeromanKC Oct 2019 #3
I love Harris paired with Biden. That's a slam dunk winner. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #6
That's been my #1 power ticket all along aeromanKC Oct 2019 #8
I love Mayor Pete. But too many homophobes in south/Midwest. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #10
God, I hate that!! aeromanKC Oct 2019 #11
He's very young and acceptance continues to rise thankfully. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #12
Hmm. Not two women and no gay guy. cwydro Oct 2019 #13
Ummm, yeah. Ask any Democratic strategist. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #14
because winning matters, not feelings. oldsoftie Oct 2019 #15
Those same homophobes customerserviceguy Oct 2019 #26
I'm thinking the same thing PatSeg Oct 2019 #16
I am not all that surprised Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #9
I live in California The Mouth Oct 2019 #17
Wow, that stuns me. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #18
In everything she says and the way she says it The Mouth Oct 2019 #21
Me too. I keep going back to before Obama got the nomination. flying_wahini Oct 2019 #28
I don't see her that way at all. MoonRiver Oct 2019 #19
i'll support her in the general The Mouth Oct 2019 #20
I feel the same Raine Oct 2019 #22
I'm stunned she isn't polling better nationwide. musicblind Oct 2019 #23
Most people are not paying attention. Other than Harris's Biden thing nothing wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #31
She's inexperienced at running a national campaign qazplm135 Oct 2019 #32
She blew it with the attack on Biden flamingdem Oct 2019 #24
Do tell? wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #30
She is my first and only choice. I will vote for the nominee but no other candidate appeals to me. wasupaloopa Oct 2019 #29
I live in California and she Polly Hennessey Oct 2019 #33
Democrats are a national party MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #34
 

TEB

(12,840 posts)
1. I like senator harris
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:21 AM
Oct 2019

Personally I am hoping senator warren gets nominated. Regardless I’ll vote blue so I feel with warren Harris booker mayor Pete they will have cabinet positions in next administration whom ever wins nomination.
Warren/ Harris
Harris/Warren

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
2. What's your feeling about her low home state numbers.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:22 AM
Oct 2019
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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
4. Though I love them both, not two women.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:26 AM
Oct 2019

The outright sexists and the closet sexists would never go for that.
Plus, Warren would need midwestern help.
I suggest she picks Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. He’d annihilate Pence in a debate.
The only problem is Ohio has A GOP Governor so we’d lose a Senate seat until a special election.

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TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
25. Brown hast to stay in the Senate. We can't afford to lose that seat
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:03 PM
Oct 2019
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flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
27. But the women would, I think.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:05 PM
Oct 2019

Many Republican women I know would vote for2 women and so would the millennial crowd.

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aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
3. VP
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:25 AM
Oct 2019

She'll be in the picture. VP or AG. She's that good. (OR a come back to the #1 spot..??)

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
6. I love Harris paired with Biden. That's a slam dunk winner.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:27 AM
Oct 2019
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aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
8. That's been my #1 power ticket all along
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:35 AM
Oct 2019

But could also like Biden/Abrams. BUT yes, can also see Warren/Harris. Huge huge huge opportunity for a women/woman ticket. Though I thought Warren/Pete ticket would be interesting. DAMN, this cycle is SOOOOOOOO good for the Dems!!!!!

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
10. I love Mayor Pete. But too many homophobes in south/Midwest.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:38 AM
Oct 2019
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aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
11. God, I hate that!!
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:43 AM
Oct 2019

That just pisses me off. (for now) It's not IF, but when for Pete.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
12. He's very young and acceptance continues to rise thankfully.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:53 AM
Oct 2019
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Hmm. Not two women and no gay guy.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:09 AM
Oct 2019

Because other people.

Got it.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
14. Ummm, yeah. Ask any Democratic strategist.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 07:58 AM
Oct 2019

I support a woman for President.
I’d vote for Pete if he had a chance. He is brilliant.
If you are inferring that I am in any way anti woman or anti gay, you are WAY off base.

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oldsoftie

(12,516 posts)
15. because winning matters, not feelings.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 08:10 AM
Oct 2019

If you dont WIN, you simply get more of what we have.
But you could run a ticket just to prove a point and end up worse off.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
26. Those same homophobes
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 12:41 PM
Oct 2019

aren't really all that into Sen. Warren, either.

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PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
16. I'm thinking the same thing
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 09:51 AM
Oct 2019

Meanwhile, Harris's popularity is on the rise. She is my 2nd choice, though on some days she is my 1st. We have a really great field to choose from.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. I am not all that surprised
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 06:35 AM
Oct 2019

Harris just doesn’t seem to be gaining traction, that she is not doing so in her home state to me is more an indicator than a surprise.

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The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
17. I live in California
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

She is the LAST person on my list. Dead last. Hold my nose hard and vote 'D' last.

I dislike authoritarians, of any ideology, and she is, in my observation and opinion, highly authoritarian in outlook, attitude and general personality.

'Better than Trump' is *all* I will say.

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Funtatlaguy

(10,868 posts)
18. Wow, that stuns me.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:21 PM
Oct 2019

She doesn’t come off that way at all to me.
Well, maybe in one debate.
Do you have examples?

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The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
21. In everything she says and the way she says it
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:17 PM
Oct 2019

I *like* a good bit of what she says; I'm scared as hell of her as an executive. I've been working on getting my Irish citizenship (hard to do, all records were destroyed) since Cheeto Benito got elected; I will continue the process if she becomes POTUS, although I think the world will be in much less danger, i don't really want to live under her.
She's been my A.G and Senator, and frightens me.

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flying_wahini

(6,588 posts)
28. Me too. I keep going back to before Obama got the nomination.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:07 PM
Oct 2019

“NO way he can win.’ And yet....
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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
19. I don't see her that way at all.
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 01:58 PM
Oct 2019

If I did I wouldn't be supporting her.

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The Mouth

(3,145 posts)
20. i'll support her in the general
Fri Oct 4, 2019, 02:13 PM
Oct 2019

Hey, supporting *ANY* Democrat is OK in my book, even ones I don't care for beat the hell out of ANY Republican. cheers

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Raine

(30,540 posts)
22. I feel the same
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 02:58 AM
Oct 2019

and I'm in California too, she's so far down on my list that she doesn't even show up on it.

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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
23. I'm stunned she isn't polling better nationwide.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 03:40 AM
Oct 2019

She's probably my second choice. Her or Warren.

It greatly surprises me because she is wellspoken, has a good platform, good ideas, and has not made any serious gaffes.

That said, the election is still a ways off. I could see any of the top five winning this. I don't think this primary is the "two-person race" the media wants us to believe it is. A lot of people just aren't paying that much attention.

For example, my parents have yet to watch a single debate.

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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
31. Most people are not paying attention. Other than Harris's Biden thing nothing
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:11 PM
Oct 2019

memorable has come from the debates.

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qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
32. She's inexperienced at running a national campaign
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:21 PM
Oct 2019

and it shows. Obama got some amazing people to work for him that helped him, but I think when you have so many campaigns at once, those folks get spread pretty thin.

I have no doubt she's learned a lot this time around, and will do better in the next run. Probably the same can be said of some of the other second tier candidates.

The reality is, it's probably down to Warren and Biden as her momentum is undeniable and he's certainly retained a large core of support...and next time around (let's hope 2024) none of those three (including Bernie) is running again, so our 2024 nominee is likely coming down to Harris, Buttigieg, maybe O'Rourke and then probably one or two new faces who waited on this round.

On paper and I think talent level, she's the best which is why she's my pick, but I can clearly see it ain't happening for her this time around.

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flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
24. She blew it with the attack on Biden
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 11:54 AM
Oct 2019

After that she didn't even seem to take herself seriously.

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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
29. She is my first and only choice. I will vote for the nominee but no other candidate appeals to me.
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:08 PM
Oct 2019

I live in CA

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Polly Hennessey

(6,793 posts)
33. I live in California and she
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:31 PM
Oct 2019

is way down on my list. Would love to see Biden, Warren, O’Rourke, or Buttegeig as President. I will vote for whom ever is our nominee. She would make a good AG. No doubt she would whip the Department of Justice back into shape.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
34. Democrats are a national party
Sat Oct 5, 2019, 01:35 PM
Oct 2019

I don’t think there is much home cooking for any candidate. Exceptions would be in rust belt states who might go for the local candidate sensitive to labor and trade issues.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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