Elizabeth Warren is correctly pointing out that Facebook is set to ratfuck Democrats in 2020.

[demmiblue]

Elizabeth Warren is correctly pointing out that Facebook is set to ratfuck Democrats in 2020. Just like they did in 2016.

Link to tweet

[BeyondGeography]

1. Our whole party should talk like this

At least someone is standing up. And, yes, I’m a Warren supporter, but how is it that she is the only one making Facebook lies a priority? Look at how much money Trump spends there; it’s his personal propaganda and misinformation playground.

How Trump Is Outspending Every
2020 Democrat on Facebook

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/21/us/politics/trump-2020-facebook-ads.html

[demmiblue]

2. Adding this, too (Facebook's recent rules change):

Facebook says Trump can lie in his Facebook ads

Last week, Facebook quietly changed the language of its advertising policies to make it easier for politicians to lie in ads.

On Tuesday, the Trump campaign launched a new ad on Facebook, which includes a claim that was ruled false by Facebook-approved third-party fact-checkers. On the surface, such an ad appears to violate Facebook's rules against false content in ads. But Facebook quietly amended its policy on "misinformation" in advertising, allowing it to accept nearly any from a politician, including this new one from the Trump campaign.

In the last week, the Trump campaign has exponentially increased its Facebook spending, shelling out over $1.5 million for ads.

Trump's new video ad attacks rival Joe Biden. The ad (which you can watch here) states: "Joe Biden promised Ukraine $1 billion dollars if they fired the prosecutor investigating his son's company."

...

Facebook changes the rules

Prior to last week, Facebook had a rule against running any ads with "false and misleading" content: "Ads, landing pages, and business practices must not contain deceptive, false, or misleading content, including deceptive claims, offers, or methods."

But today, category 13 of prohibited content has been narrowed significantly. Now, Facebook only "prohibits ads that include claims debunked by third-party fact checkers or, in certain circumstances, claims debunked by organizations with particular expertise."

The old rules prohibited all ads that contained "false" and "misleading" content and made no mention of the fact-checking program. The new rules are limited to claims that are "debunked by third-party fact checkers."

Moreover, Facebook says "political figures" are exempt from even that narrow restriction.

It's open season.

https://popular.info/p/facebook-says-trump-can-lie-in-his?no_cover=true

[justgamma]

5. That is the same ad

they've been been playing on TV in Iowa for the past week. Drives me nuts!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

28. Yes, this is just another prime example of how Elizabeth has distinguished herself...

she's running one helluva campaign!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, welcome to the revolution!!!

[randr]

3. A significent percentage of Facebook profits come from spreading lies and consiracys

They are the "National Enquire" of cyberspace.

[rpannier]

4. Yep

That's one of the best descriptions of facecrook I've heard

[safeinOhio]

6. I've only seen 2 ads for trump on FB.

I clicked block this both times. Must have worked.

[AllyCat]

7. Algorithm. For those undecided or don't know to report/block,

They see these ads almost constantly.

[DemocracyMouse]

10. Well, then I hope you walk over to the front porches of Red State America and

help them figure out how to click block theirs.

[Fla Dem]

8. I don't do FB. How have they painted EW as an existential threat?

[Zambero]

11. False equivalency on steroids

Liberalism = Socialism = Communism = Genocide

The "short version" is Socialism = Genocide

Yes, Medicare for all would or even a voluntary public option lead to the mass slaughter of American citizens

[demmiblue]

12. Here:

Zuckerberg blasts Elizabeth Warren's plan to break up Facebook and says it's an 'existential' threat

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg addressed the company's challenges in two hours of leaked audio from internal meetings published in part by The Verge on Tuesday.

The audio from two July Q&A meetings with employees provides a glance into Zuckerberg's thoughts on key issues facing his company while not under the spotlight of press cameras or a congressional hearing. He also blasted Sen. Elizabeth Warren's plans to break up Big Tech companies if she becomes president.

The meetings took place after the Federal Trade Commission's $5 billion settlement with the company over privacy concerns, according to The Verge — a deal that included a release from liability for executives from its previous consent decree and which ultimately sent Facebook shares up.

While Zuckerberg's answers at the employee Q&A meetings come off as more casual and sometimes jocular takes on his public remarks, the fact that two hours of internal dealings leaked to the press is significant. Over the past year and a half since the Cambridge Analytica scandal, Facebook has had to do damage control, both inside and outside of the company. Current and former employees have previously expressed gripes with Facebook's culture, with some telling CNBC earlier this year that it's like a "cult."

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/01/audio-from-zuckerberg-meeting-with-facebook-employees-leaked.html

[Fla Dem]

18. Thank You!

[getagrip_already]

9. why is anyone still using facebook?

Really, are lunch pics really that compelling?

[Zambero]

13. Baited data mining

Selling your personal info, preferences, and political beliefs for a profit. Why worry ???

[progressoid]

16. A lot of politacal groups (including Democrats) use it to connect with their members.

Used for organizing events etc.

[getagrip_already]

22. And chicafillet sells chicken.....

But I won't spend my time or money there, even if others want to go there.

Have fun.

But there are other places to hold groups.

[Blue_Adept]

23. Do you really think it's lunch pics that draw people there?

It's like saying Twitter is all about people tweeting while they were on the toilet. Which is pretty much the first few months of the service in 2009 or whatever. But far from it since.

Do you have a better alternative people should be using?

[getagrip_already]

24. Pretty much...

Sure, people buy and sell, but there are dozens of sites you can do business on.

Look around.

But the real answer is to break sites like fb, Amazon, and Google into independent entities.

Look at wardens proposal; that will go a long way, and why they see her as an existential threat.

But short of that, just take progressive business elsewhere. Or don't you think 100 million real accounts going idle will get there attention?

[Blue_Adept]

25. I suspect you simply have a provincial view of how people are using the service

And that makes you blind to a lot of why people aren't abandoning en masse even after all the things that have been revealed came out.

[getagrip_already]

27. Or maybe I do know but dont...

Acknowledge they are valid reasons. It is laziness to a great extent.

Some people need to shop at Wal-Mart because they have no real choice.

I don't need to and don't.

Same with fb. I know what's there, but with a little effort I don't need it. I do have an account for work reasons, but won't use it for personal use.

Ymmv.

[pangaia]

26. i use FB constantly - professionally and personally.

I do not associate with ANY right-wingers, and if someone I know turns out to be such, poof, they are gone.

I have NEVER ever seen any right-wing ads or otherwise for anything.

I have professional friends in the arts throughout the world. Groups where we discuss events, musical instrument design, performance practice, items for sale, repair... etc etc...

For me, it is absolutely priceless..

That's just me...

[OhZone]

29. Yeah -

All my friends have cut back to almost nothing on Facebook.

I still have my page, but I only post a few sunsets, a few selfies, some model pics often taken by my brother who loves photography, and a lot of anti-Trump stuff.

My significant other gave up FB a couple of years ago before I met her.

Oh well.

[demmiblue]

14. Full thread here:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1181348866744098816.html

[spooky3]

15. I'm so glad I never joined Facebook. I used to feel alone

But now it seems others are pulling the plug.

[Pepsidog]

17. Zuckerberg is scum and Facebook must be broken up, plain and simple.

[calimary]

19. Glad she's making noise about this.

This is how we got screwed last time.

[demmiblue]

20. 👀 co-founder of Facebook 👇

I have a feeling that many people in tech will see Warren's thread implying FB empowers Trump over Warren as unfair. But Mark, by deciding to allow outright lies in political ads to travel on Facebook, is embracing the philosophy behind Trumpism and thereby tipping the scales.

There is a higher calling - to be a platform that won't allow political lies to spread. Employees should demand that kind of policy. It isn't partisan - it's the right thing to do.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[The Mouth]

21. Why would anyone expect anything else?

Who runs facebook?
How rich are they?
Who does Trump's tax policies favor?

Kind of a "Does 1=1=1=3?" level of difficulty as far as logic goes.

The basic fact is that the only people who have any say in what Facebook does are the people who own it. Newspapers have always been free to print any lies they wish, with only the exceptions of defamation of character or incitement to riot as limitations.

not defending anything, just amazed that anyone is at all surprised that a very very rich man would allow and/or facilitate another rich man (who wants to make the rich richer) do get away with everything possible.

[rogue emissary]

30. She also continues to buy ads on Facebook.

[Cha]

31. Thank you, EW!