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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:30 PM Oct 2019

Impeachment Is Destroying Trump As Both Biden And Warren Are Trouncing Him By Double Digits

From the article:

In more evidence that the impeachment fight is destroying Donald Trump, a new poll from Fox News – the president’s favorite cable outlet – shows that both Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren would trounce him if the election was held today.

According to the survey, both of the Democratic frontrunners lead Trump by 10 percentage points – 50 percent to 40 percent – among registered voters. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has a 9-point lead over the president.


To read more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/11/impeachment-destroying-trump-biden-warren-double-digits.html

Are voters in general finally tiring of the Trump circus?
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. And presumably only that 10% undecided--
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:41 PM
Oct 2019

So Trump would have get every single one of those people to even come even.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. We must also motivate our voters to actually "vote blue". eom
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:47 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
2. Stop Telling Us That Warren Will Doom The Universe
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

Support the candidate you love.

Stop fear-mongering, it's not a good look. That's a Republican thing.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Agreed.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 04:46 PM
Oct 2019

Voters in general support many progressive policies. It is our job as Democrats to make this point whenever we can. The media cannot be allowed to promote the meme that progressive policies are too extreme when it is the far right policies that are too extreme and dangerous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
5. As Democrats, it is not "our" job to promote policies we don't agree with, whether labeled
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 06:53 PM
Oct 2019

progressive or extremist.

I find some undoable, a few big ones unneeded reinventions, and many far too costly both financially and politically at a time when the existing social safety net is threatened and most social programs and services vastly underfunded.

I have more to say, but can’t because “RW talking points.” It is “on the bus or off the bus” with many progressives, mainstream liberals STFU.

Maybe you meant DU-ers should. Democrats are a diverse group of voters, with the majority moderate and the minority self-identifying as progressive.

No, voters in general do not support M4All when they discover they must give up employer or retirement benefits-provided affordable and high-quality insurance. Not when they are informed taxes might be raised, as Bernie has honestly admitted, or when given other options to universal health-care.

Sorry, I would rather expand mandated coverage of suboxone and talk therapy throughout all states than dump 200 billion dollars into the opiate crisis, not when rehab in the very states affected consists mainly of bible thumping, 30 day rehabs run by evangelical peer addicts. I’d like to see us more effectively address our number 1 drug problem, alcohol addiction.

Etc.

I am finding the pressure to support and never dare criticize particular policy proposals quite UN Democratic. I support all of Biden’s—that makes me a disloyal party member?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,909 posts)
6. You can criticize Warren's policies on this site.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:02 PM
Oct 2019

The only posts I’ve seen deleted are the ones accusing her of promoting “free stuff”. And that IS a right wing talking point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
7. Wasn't it Amy K. who said something like that? I could be wrong. Please correct. But I can see that
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:19 PM
Oct 2019

policy description as an RW talking point which could be used to talk about ANY existing services or programs Americans expect now—and all of our candidates who all propose ways to improve and strengthen our society, help the most vulnerable, or solve common health and welfare issues.

Thank you for your comment, Turin_C3PO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,909 posts)
10. I'm not sure if she said that. She may have.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

And yes, that’s why I’m opposed to using the “freebie” talking point, because Repubs accuse all Democrats of “bribing” voters. I don’t agree with all of Warren’s policies and think some are too expensive but I do hope, if Biden wins, that some of her ideas get put into the Dem platform.

Thanks for your comment also, I always enjoy your posts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. Single payer is cheaper.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:22 PM
Oct 2019

And it covers everyone. And the facts support this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
11. I don't disagree, though for some individuals it won't be. For society, yes. In the long run.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:37 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. I thought as much.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:40 PM
Oct 2019

No matter who we currently back, it is obvious that we have a number of well qualified candidates, and the GOP has none.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
13. Well put! Notwithstanding, recycling Mittens, the dog abuser and hater of half of America, should
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:47 PM
Oct 2019

something wonderful happen to Trump, like impeachment or spontaneous combustion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. Imagine the fire from that amount of toxic fuel!!
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:48 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
15. Oh my gosh, the putrid, foul gasses! And a demonic ectoplasm too.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,848 posts)
9. Circus from hell.
Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:24 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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