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OldRed2450

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Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:15 PM Oct 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) OldRed2450 Oct 2019 OP
What the actual fuck??? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #1
WTF!!!!!!!!! Beakybird Oct 2019 #2
Link please ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #3
I linked directly to his youtube. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #5
Looks like it was an example of Media Manipulation ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #6
That's what he says. It's massively offensive! OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #8
This video is disgusting, what a terrible hire. Agschmid Oct 2019 #10
I can't believe people here are defending it. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #11
This hire appears to be another Jill Stein supporter. lapucelle Oct 2019 #23
I think Bernie hires these types because he demands loyalty and feels like he will get that from OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #25
typical white straight male who had nothing to lose dsc Oct 2019 #32
He could have been more tasteful about it or a more benign subject. Why MLK? Why gross obscenities? George II Oct 2019 #15
Here's another shite vid from MattO Cha Oct 2019 #18
He says "Can't wait to make more videos, expose more truth" betsuni Oct 2019 #46
Add "king" to your search and you'll find it. Hortensis Oct 2019 #13
Well that's embarrassing. I'd rather a sometimes Democrat had higher standards. dem4decades Oct 2019 #4
What's your understanding of this video, and what are you trying to do here? PETRUS Oct 2019 #7
He just added that explanation today. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #9
Before or after you posted? nt PETRUS Oct 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #14
Look - PETRUS Oct 2019 #19
Indeed ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #20
Yeah, this sure as hell does "rub me the wrong way".. Cha Oct 2019 #21
The new hire is also a "Russiagate debunker". lapucelle Oct 2019 #28
And he's all in for Assange. lapucelle Oct 2019 #45
I didn't say he was racist OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #22
He says that was always the video Description. Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #56
Did you read this? OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #17
I don't need to see... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #16
I think you just proved Matt Orfalea's point about media manipulation. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #24
Like Hamlette shit the bed ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #26
People should be able to judge for themselves. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #27
Yes, people should judge Matt Orfalea, but also you. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #30
Sure. Why not. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #35
Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #36
I must have hit a nerve. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #41
Comics, Artists, Writers, Intellecuals often offend to make a point ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #33
Yes. I still find it repulsive to use MLK for this. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #37
If only this was the only 'offend to make a good point!! hertopos Oct 2019 #40
Welcome back joined in 2002 WOW ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #43
THanks, I just could not finish MLK video hertopos Oct 2019 #48
Talk to the Sanders campaign. They already fired him. kcr Oct 2019 #57
Bernie Sanders took a bus from Chicago to DC to hear MLK in 1963 Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #31
I think this new hire is a Putinesque ratfucker. Beakybird Oct 2019 #34
Welcome back!!!!! ChubbyStar Oct 2019 #38
wow on what planet would anyone hire the person who made this? dsc Oct 2019 #39
Looks like BS's Campaign is in the self destruct mode. democratisphere Oct 2019 #42
Disgusting. highplainsdem Oct 2019 #44
That ANYONE would post this filth FOR ANY REASON Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #47
I don't quite understand what you mean. hertopos Oct 2019 #49
I think the post should be and deleted locked down Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #51
There are people here defending it. :( OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #52
He resigned. The hiring process wasn't completed in the first place. Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #50
Excellent! OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #53
Thank you hertopos Oct 2019 #54
You're welcome. NT Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #55
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,601 posts)
1. What the actual fuck???
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Beakybird

(3,330 posts)
2. WTF!!!!!!!!!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:16 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
3. Link please
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:19 PM
Oct 2019

I have been studying Matt and I see NO mention of this video, so where did it come from? Thanks.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
5. I linked directly to his youtube.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:21 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
6. Looks like it was an example of Media Manipulation
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:23 PM
Oct 2019

But you didn't post it as that, you made it sound as if Matt believes these things. Got it.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
8. That's what he says. It's massively offensive!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:25 PM
Oct 2019

Here is another one where he compares Hillary to Trump.

&feature=youtu.be
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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
10. This video is disgusting, what a terrible hire.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:28 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
11. I can't believe people here are defending it.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

I have to wonder if this is *strategy*

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lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
23. This hire appears to be another Jill Stein supporter.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:14 PM
Oct 2019
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
25. I think Bernie hires these types because he demands loyalty and feels like he will get that from
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:19 PM
Oct 2019

these types more than he would your typical democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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dsc

(52,152 posts)
32. typical white straight male who had nothing to lose
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:34 PM
Oct 2019

in his mind the civil rights of blacks, gays, hispanics, and women don't matter one whit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. He could have been more tasteful about it or a more benign subject. Why MLK? Why gross obscenities?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:34 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(296,849 posts)
18. Here's another shite vid from MattO
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:44 PM
Oct 2019


And, no I'm sure as hell not watching him compare Hillary to trump.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,380 posts)
46. He says "Can't wait to make more videos, expose more truth"
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:51 PM
Oct 2019

"Truth"? Someone should explain to him what that word means because he's using it wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Add "king" to your search and you'll find it.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019

Disgusting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
4. Well that's embarrassing. I'd rather a sometimes Democrat had higher standards.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:20 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
7. What's your understanding of this video, and what are you trying to do here?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:25 PM
Oct 2019

When I click through to YouTube, I see the following text:

"Martin Luther King Jr. was a great man. The real, "I Have a Dream" speech is amazing. And society is undeniably better thanks to MLK and the civil rights movement. No one should be ever be judged based on their race/ethnicity. The purpose of this video is to show people that media on the web and TV can be edited to really twist facts/reality."

I didn't even have to go looking for that explanation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
9. He just added that explanation today.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:27 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
12. Before or after you posted? nt
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:30 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to PETRUS (Reply #12)

 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
19. Look -
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:54 PM
Oct 2019

I wasn't familiar with the guy, but it took me all of three minutes to learn two things about him:

1. He's the kind of leftist that rubs some Democrats the wrong way (just like Sanders rubs some Democrats the wrong way).
2. His oeuvre includes a number of antiracist pieces.

Maybe you posted in haste, but now you now. The implied guilt-by-association is deceptive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
20. Indeed
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:01 PM
Oct 2019

I learned about him, Matt, and I agree with your last sentence.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,849 posts)
21. Yeah, this sure as hell does "rub me the wrong way"..
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:06 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
28. The new hire is also a "Russiagate debunker".
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:25 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
45. And he's all in for Assange.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:49 PM
Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
22. I didn't say he was racist
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:06 PM
Oct 2019

I said the video he made was and it is. Maybe he's tone deaf? I don't know. I think it's fair for people to see what kind of hires Bernie has on his campaign as it reflects who he would have on his cabinet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
56. He says that was always the video Description.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:05 PM
Oct 2019

The entire link must be copied-and-pasted, not clicked, to go to the webpage.

https://medium.com/@0rf/my-first-day-in-politics-8c9830b8dc7a

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
17. Did you read this?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:38 PM
Oct 2019

It's massively offensive and people have the right to judge for themselves what this guy is about.


/photo/1
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Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
16. I don't need to see...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

... the videos on MLK and Hillary Clinton. I admire both... Maybe Bernie saw the man made good videos... not someone I'd hire, but I guess it's strictly for the skill in making an effective video.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
24. I think you just proved Matt Orfalea's point about media manipulation.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:17 PM
Oct 2019


Not well played.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
26. Like Hamlette shit the bed
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:24 PM
Oct 2019

Poor caddying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
27. People should be able to judge for themselves.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:24 PM
Oct 2019

He seems to be OK with offending POC to prove a media bias.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
30. Yes, people should judge Matt Orfalea, but also you.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:31 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
35. Sure. Why not.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:39 PM
Oct 2019

For posting Bernie's hire? Who candidates hire on their campaign tells us how they would hire to work in the white house. Some people will be OK with it but others not. I personally don't see Bernie trying to expand his base at all. He seems to want to attract Jill Stein supporters and people who hate "the establishment." He doesn't try to go beyond that. Not that I can see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
36. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:40 PM
Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
41. I must have hit a nerve.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019

Did I say something that isn't true?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
33. Comics, Artists, Writers, Intellecuals often offend to make a point
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:35 PM
Oct 2019

It certainly does not mean they are OK with the point, they use this to emphasize how repugnant these points are. You didn't know this?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
37. Yes. I still find it repulsive to use MLK for this.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:41 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hertopos

(833 posts)
40. If only this was the only 'offend to make a good point!!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019

No, that is not the case.

Look at his equating Hillary and Trump video.
Look at his 'Russia-gate video'.

Oh, he is also a big supporter of Jill S whom we know with Putin by now.


So, I am rightfully offended.

Tell the truth, the timing is also the worst.
I am really upset about that Texas murder by the cop. This lady was playing video game with her nephew.
She had a biology degree and pre-med. She was living with her mother who got very ill just recently.
Now, her neighbor feels awful because he made a non-emergency call for well-fare check.

There is a thin line between pure offensiveness and 'offend to make a point'.

I am very angry and emotionally disturbed.
I know DU since it's very beginning year and I don't post often.

However, I am so angry right now.
All these things going on.
Enough is enough.

Let's stop this for sure.

BTW, I believe Mr. Sanders should fire this disgusting human being right away.

Hertopos

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
43. Welcome back joined in 2002 WOW
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:44 PM
Oct 2019

So good to have you!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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hertopos

(833 posts)
48. THanks, I just could not finish MLK video
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:54 PM
Oct 2019

First few sentences was enough.

I really hope Mr. Sanders fires him.

Hertopos

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kcr

(15,315 posts)
57. Talk to the Sanders campaign. They already fired him.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:10 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
29. Bernie Sanders took a bus from Chicago to DC to hear MLK in 1963
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:27 PM
Oct 2019

...and I'm sure he wouldn't like this video.

Bernie was the president of the University of Chicago chapter of the "Congress of Racial Equality" at the time. He was arrested protesting for civil rights.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Beakybird

(3,330 posts)
34. I think this new hire is a Putinesque ratfucker.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:35 PM
Oct 2019

This is shady business by Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
38. Welcome back!!!!!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:41 PM
Oct 2019

I just love it when people who have been away for years dial back in.

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dsc

(52,152 posts)
39. wow on what planet would anyone hire the person who made this?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:41 PM
Oct 2019

This is honestly career ending misjudgment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
42. Looks like BS's Campaign is in the self destruct mode.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,916 posts)
44. Disgusting.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:44 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
47. That ANYONE would post this filth FOR ANY REASON
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:54 PM
Oct 2019

should be grounds for punishment.

There is NO sound reason for posting this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hertopos

(833 posts)
49. I don't quite understand what you mean.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:56 PM
Oct 2019

I am glad to know and informed at least.

I could not stand the video after few sentences though.

I feel too old to post these days; however, it really offended me so so badly.
I could not stand it.

This is why I am raising my voice.

You know, just the other day there was a video in which Bill Maher said 'women are too emotional to be a president..' .
However, if you watch entire video, you understand exactly what he really implied.
That was a good example of ' purposely using an offensive expression to make a point..'.

Not this video.

And that was not the end of the story. Other video he made shows his true color.
I am not a big fan of Sanders; however, I don't want to believe he approves all videos he made.



Hertopos

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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
51. I think the post should be and deleted locked down
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:00 PM
Oct 2019

for violating DU rules.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
52. There are people here defending it. :(
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:02 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
50. He resigned. The hiring process wasn't completed in the first place.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:59 PM
Oct 2019

"UPDATE: Orfalea has resigned from Bernie Sanders campaign."

"Statement from Faiz Shakir, the campaign manager: 'All initial job offers are contingent on the completion of a final review of a person’s record. That vetting process had not yet been completed.'"


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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
53. Excellent!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:03 PM
Oct 2019

That's great news! Bernie does not need that guy on his campaign.

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hertopos

(833 posts)
54. Thank you
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:03 PM
Oct 2019

I felt a relief.

Hertopos

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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
55. You're welcome. NT
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Oct 2019

NT

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