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Does anyone know if AOC is going to endorse a candidate and, if so, when? (Original Post) OilemFirchen Oct 2019 OP
Ask Sharice Davids or Lacy Clay or Gretchen Whitmer. George II Oct 2019 #1
I just did. OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #3
Just announced on CNN, its Bernie. n/t Baclava Oct 2019 #8
I don't regard this as good news. nt Lucid Dreamer Oct 2019 #16
Berners Know That It's Not Just Good But YUGE! corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #22
Is it because they knows that she "needs a reciprocal endorsement" ehrnst Oct 2019 #45
It is not surprising. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #26
Thank Goodness they got Elected in Cha Oct 2019 #10
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #28
NYT says she will back Sanders at a rally Saturday IADEMO2004 Oct 2019 #2
Stop the presses! OilemFirchen Oct 2019 #4
Go for it IADEMO2004 Oct 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Oct 2019 #6
Teased? sheshe2 Oct 2019 #14
I just saw an article on Yahoo that she's endorsing Sanders calguy Oct 2019 #7
.. Cha Oct 2019 #9
IT'S AOC AND THE SQUAD! corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #11
I don't think Ayanna Pressley is going to endorse anyone on Saturday. George II Oct 2019 #20
3 Out Of 4 Constitutes The New #BernieSquad corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #21
But not "the Squad" as such. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #23
Ayanna Will Come Around - Until Then, We'll Have To Go With #BernieSquad (n/t) corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #30
"Come around?" Are you saying that she's not informed or that dissent from "The Squad" ehrnst Oct 2019 #31
Come Around To Her Colleagues' Way Of Thinking corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #32
"Ayanna will see..." so she doesn't "see" things clearly if she dissents from Bernie & "The Squad" ehrnst Oct 2019 #33
Wow! Psychoanalyze A Member Of Congress If You Like corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #34
So, basically, you're saying "yes," Pressley isn't "up to speed" ehrnst Oct 2019 #35
Has She Endorsed Bernie's Rival For The White House? Not To My Knowledge corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #36
So she needs the "influence" of Bernie & the rest of "the Squad" to make the "right decision" ehrnst Oct 2019 #38
Needs? No. Will Receive? That's My Guess corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #39
No, you're the one questioning her judgement. ehrnst Oct 2019 #40
Are There Shuttles To The Planet You Inhabit? I'd Like To Visit corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #41
YOU seem to think that Pressley can't get re-elected on her own merits without an endorsement from ehrnst Oct 2019 #42
More like 2 out of 4, Rashida Tlaib has backed out of the Saturday "Rally" and endorsement. George II Oct 2019 #47
Is this rally in Queens going to be held at Cortez' District office? George II Oct 2019 #48
LOL betsuni Oct 2019 #12
Go Bernie! sheshe2 Oct 2019 #15
The cat's out of the bag and so excited! betsuni Oct 2019 #17
I am counting the days to Saturday. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #18
.... ehrnst Oct 2019 #25
Yes. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #13
Thw squad is going to endorse Bernie! This is huge! Joe941 Oct 2019 #19
Minus Pressley... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #24
It's not huge... It's normal zaj Oct 2019 #27
The only "huge" thing about it is Pressley's dissent. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #37
Who? Joe941 Oct 2019 #43
.... ehrnst Oct 2019 #44
Here: Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #29
lol RandiFan1290 Oct 2019 #46
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Ask Sharice Davids or Lacy Clay or Gretchen Whitmer.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:37 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
3. I just did.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:39 PM
Oct 2019

They don't know. Apparently it's a secret.

I'm prepared to be shocked.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. Just announced on CNN, its Bernie. n/t
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:48 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
16. I don't regard this as good news. nt
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 12:59 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
22. Berners Know That It's Not Just Good But YUGE!
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 02:01 PM
Oct 2019

On a different note...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
45. Is it because they knows that she "needs a reciprocal endorsement"
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:42 PM
Oct 2019

like you think Ayanna Pressley should "come around" to?

I merely point out that she will connect A to B to C and give Bernie due consideration, particularly if Faiz should reach out to her an offer a reciprocal endorsement.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=312271

Or do you have a higher opinion of AOC than you do of Rep. Pressley? At least until Pressley 'comes around."



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
26. It is not surprising.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:32 PM
Oct 2019

She was an organizer for him in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(296,778 posts)
10. Thank Goodness they got Elected in
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:51 PM
Oct 2019

spite of those two backing their primary opponents.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IADEMO2004

(5,551 posts)
2. NYT says she will back Sanders at a rally Saturday
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:39 PM
Oct 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/us/politics/aoc-endorses-bernie-sanders.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

WESTERVILLE, Ohio — Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, a star of the progressive left, plans to endorse Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont for the Democratic presidential nomination at a rally this weekend, Mr. Sanders’s campaign said Tuesday night. Also on Tuesday, Representative Ilhan Omar of Minnesota endorsed Mr. Sanders.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez will appear at Mr. Sanders’s “Bernie’s Back” rally in Queens on Saturday. Earlier Tuesday, his campaign had teased that Mr. Sanders would have a “special guest” at the event.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
4. Stop the presses!
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:41 PM
Oct 2019

That should be plastered all over this forum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to IADEMO2004 (Reply #2)

 

calguy

(5,290 posts)
7. I just saw an article on Yahoo that she's endorsing Sanders
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:45 PM
Oct 2019

I only saw the headline. Didn't read the article because it is of little interest to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. I don't think Ayanna Pressley is going to endorse anyone on Saturday.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 11:42 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
21. 3 Out Of 4 Constitutes The New #BernieSquad
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

Others may try to dismiss this with statements such as, "Ayanana is the only member of The Squad who matters." Sober, disinterested analyses point to the YUGE symbolism of this YUGE triple endorsement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. But not "the Squad" as such. (nt)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:12 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
30. Ayanna Will Come Around - Until Then, We'll Have To Go With #BernieSquad (n/t)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:00 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. "Come around?" Are you saying that she's not informed or that dissent from "The Squad"
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:01 PM
Oct 2019

isn't valid or informed?



Because that's what "she'll come around" sounds like.

Think about how you would react to someone saying that "Bernie will 'come around' to the conclusion of non-partisan health policy experts that his plan for Medicare for All isn't really feasible."

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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
32. Come Around To Her Colleagues' Way Of Thinking
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:05 PM
Oct 2019

There's no doubt in my mind that, if 3 members of The Squad come out publicly for Bernie, and he stumps for them in their districts, as he already has committed to doing for AOC and Ilhan, Ayanna will see the potential win-win of endorsing Bernie and the political revolution.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. "Ayanna will see..." so she doesn't "see" things clearly if she dissents from Bernie & "The Squad"
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:10 PM
Oct 2019


Think for a moment about how you would react to someone saying that "Bernie will 'come around' see the folly of opposing the conclusion of non-partisan health policy experts that his plan for Medicare for All isn't really feasible."



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
34. Wow! Psychoanalyze A Member Of Congress If You Like
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:17 PM
Oct 2019

I have 1 point and 1 point only:

It makes sense that, given the close friendship among the members of The Squad, Ayanna will be predisposed to pay closer attention to Bernie than she might have otherwise. I guarantee that she has asked herself, "Hmm, what do Alexandria, Ilhan and Rashida know which I don't?"

I only assert that, given this watershed moment in the Democratic primary, the events of last night will improve the odds of Ayanna's considering (not choosing, considering) a reciprocal endorsement offer from the Sanders campaign. My statement regards strategy and tactics, not psychiatry.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
35. So, basically, you're saying "yes," Pressley isn't "up to speed"
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:18 PM
Oct 2019

when you say "she'll come around," and finally fall in line with Sanders and AOC, Omar and Tlaib.

I'm not doing any psychoanalyzing of Pressley, I'm pointing out how the language of your characterization of her dissent from Sanders and Tlaib, Omar and AOC comes across as portraying that dissent as being somehow less than an intelligent, well thought out, informed decision.

You're welcome.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
36. Has She Endorsed Bernie's Rival For The White House? Not To My Knowledge
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:27 PM
Oct 2019

If she has not endorsed yet, then the decision by Alexandria, Ilhan and Rashida to endorse Bernie will have an influence on her. How you can see that as a leap escapes me. From there, I speculate with confidence that she will endorse Bernie. I offer no guarantees but also don't find it a logical stretch in any way. In fact, I see it as common sense.

In the 2008 cycle, I ran for Congress as a Democrat. Mike Gravel offered to endorse me, in person, to my face. For a variety of reasons, I didn't pursue it. Even still, it was a great honor to receive such a commitment from a distinguished senator. It was a pinnacle in my life. I remember it as if it were yesterday and can tell you that, if a candidate or incumbent in a neighboring district had endorsed Clinton or Obama via a reciprocal arrangement, I would have paid very close attention and given due consideration to pursuing a similar endorsement.

If, in fact, such an arrangement had come to pass, my campaign would have done far better than it did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. So she needs the "influence" of Bernie & the rest of "the Squad" to make the "right decision"
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:30 PM
Oct 2019

to "come around" and get with the program.

Still not a positive characterization of Rep. Ayanna Pressley's judgement.

How you think it might be considered as such is beyond me, or how you think that her "not endorsing Bernie's rival" is somehow proof of your thesis that she simply needs the guidance of others to "do the right thing," and "get on board.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
39. Needs? No. Will Receive? That's My Guess
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

You seem to be the one questioning her judgment. In no way did I claim that she erred in not endorsing yet. My only point was a prediction (not a guarantee) that she will endorse Bernie and this watershed moment will be a significant factor, not just because Bernie secured 3 high-profile endorsements in 1 day but because these endorsements came from Ayanna's friends and close colleagues.

She is human. That last time I checked, the opinions of friends and family tend to weigh heavier on people than those of strangers on any subject. Ayanna is not demented. I merely point out that she will connect A to B to C and give Bernie due consideration, particularly if Faiz should reach out to her an offer a reciprocal endorsement.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
40. No, you're the one questioning her judgement.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:42 PM
Oct 2019
She is human. That last time I checked, the opinions of friends and family tend to weigh heavier on people than those of strangers on any subject.


Who said that she isn't "human?" You declear that she's "human," but continue to claim that isn't capable of making thoughtful decisions that dissent from Bernie and "The Squad" on her own ? You think that her "friends and family" are all on the Bernie bandwagon, and that she should defer to them?

Ayanna is not demented.


You feel a need to state this? That's certainly interesting....

I merely point out that she will connect A to B to C and give Bernie due consideration, particularly if Faiz should reach out to her an offer a reciprocal endorsement.


So you're saying she hasn't "connected A to B to C" , and hasn't "given Bernie due consideration?" And that a craven self interest for a reciprocal endorsement should be leveraged by the Sanders team if she doesn't "come around?"

You don't think that's rather insulting to Rep. Pressley? Are you sure you want to continue trying to "explain" how you are being "respectful" of Rep. Pressley?




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
41. Are There Shuttles To The Planet You Inhabit? I'd Like To Visit
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:54 PM
Oct 2019

Your ability to take simple, straightforward pieces of logic and twist them into accusations amounting to nonsense leaves me impressed but also bored to sleep. This is my final post on the matter because there's no reaching you, no matter how many facts I present.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. YOU seem to think that Pressley can't get re-elected on her own merits without an endorsement from
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:59 PM
Oct 2019

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Bernie. And she needs to "come around" and realize that.

That seems to be the point of your posts, albeit not so simple or straightforward.

I merely point out that she will connect A to B to C and give Bernie due consideration, particularly if Faiz should reach out to her an offer a reciprocal endorsement.


Factually speaking.

I'm sure you'll "come around" to how unsubtle that statement is now that someone has reached out to you to tell you such.

Are There Shuttles To The Planet You Inhabit? I'd Like To Visit


The "shuttle" to the "planet the rest of us inhabit" leaves the "planet you inhabit" whenever you're ready.






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George II

(67,782 posts)
47. More like 2 out of 4, Rashida Tlaib has backed out of the Saturday "Rally" and endorsement.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:52 PM
Oct 2019

Ooops, suddenly that "triple endorsement" has been reduced by 33.3333%

BTW, Ayanana [sic] is the only member of "the Squad" who hasn't personally acknowledged membership in that group. She off doing her job and getting things done. Perhaps she subscribes to the wisdom of Groucho Marx?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Is this rally in Queens going to be held at Cortez' District office?
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 10:54 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,371 posts)
17. The cat's out of the bag and so excited!
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:05 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
18. I am counting the days to Saturday.
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:09 AM
Oct 2019

This is going to be so very cool.

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Joe941

(2,848 posts)
19. Thw squad is going to endorse Bernie! This is huge!
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:26 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Minus Pressley... (nt)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:16 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
27. It's not huge... It's normal
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 04:41 PM
Oct 2019

It would be huge if they endorsed someone else.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
37. The only "huge" thing about it is Pressley's dissent. (nt)
Wed Oct 16, 2019, 05:27 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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