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Celerity

(43,299 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 10:57 AM Oct 2019

Clinton suggests Putin has kompromat on Trump, Russians will back Tulsi Gabbard in 3rd-party bid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-suggests-putin-has-kompromat-trump-russians-will-back-tulsi-gabbard-third-party-bid/

At Tuesday night’s Democratic presidential debate, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) hit back at critics who charged she’s too close to Russia. “This morning, a CNN commentator said on national television that I’m an asset of Russia,” she said. “Completely despicable.” Gabbard won’t be happy to hear Hillary Clinton’s latest interview. Nor will President Trump or another of Clinton’s 2016 opponents, whom Clinton has now lodged similar accusations about.

In a conversation on former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe’s podcast, Clinton suggested the Russians are leveraging a number of top U.S. politicians. She suggested Russia had kompromat on Trump. She accused 2016 Green Party nominee Jill Stein of being a “Russian asset.” And she suggested Russia might back Gabbard as a third-party candidate.

“They’re also going to do third-party again,” Clinton said. “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on someone who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.”

The “again” referred to Stein, whom some Clinton supporters have accused (rather baselessly) of serving as a spoiler for Clinton in 2016. Clinton then flat-out labeled Stein a “Russian asset.” “And that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she’s also a Russian asset,” Clinton said. “Yeah, she’s a Russian asset — I mean, totally. They know they can’t win without a third-party candidate. So I don’t know who it’s going to be, but I will guarantee you they will have a vigorous third-party challenge in the key states that they most needed.”

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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
1. I don't think she's wrong. The pro putin moves trump is making since the impeachment..
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:01 AM
Oct 2019

makes me believe he has struck a deal with putin to double down on helping him with the 2020 election.

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Botany

(70,489 posts)
2. Say it Hillary
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:01 AM
Oct 2019

“They’re also going to do third-party again,” Clinton said. “I’m not making any predictions, but I think they’ve got their eye on someone who’s currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far.”

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MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
3. I'm seeing #notyoutulsi is trending
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:01 AM
Oct 2019

on Twitter. Chris Lavoie is wearing the T-shirt with that hashtag on Stephanie Miller this morning.

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Maven

(10,533 posts)
4. "Patently absurd!" say the white male pundits, to the woman who's been right about everything so far
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:08 AM
Oct 2019
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Bettie

(16,089 posts)
8. However, I don't think that
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Oct 2019

Tulsi will gain traction. People on our side, I hope, are less likely to fall for this.

On the other hand, she could pull those few Republicans who can't stomach Trump. Maybe.

Oh, who the hell knows anymore...nothing is predictable.

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sop

(10,150 posts)
5. I suspect Putin would run someone more to the left than Gabbard as a spoiler in 2020
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

Stein's 3rd party candidacy was intended to peel off as many left-leaning voters as possible. On a variety of issues Gabbard seems to appeal more to Trump supporters, not moderate or progressive Democrats.

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Celerity

(43,299 posts)
9. Non DU Berner/BoB types love her, or at least did
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:28 AM
Oct 2019
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Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
6. I would heed this warning...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:16 AM
Oct 2019

... they will need a third party candidate. This candidate will need to do better than last election. I'm not sure TG would do well enough... they need a bigger draw. We better get ahead of this and deal them out... and, promote a third party to draw from the Republicans. Hillary is correct, as is often the case...

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LonePirate

(13,416 posts)
7. Once again and as usual, Hillary is right.
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:19 AM
Oct 2019

She warned us all time and again and yet America refused to listen. We should heed her words again this time.

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Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
10. Did you know that Pat Buchanan recommended that Donald Trump replace John Bolton with...
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 11:29 AM
Oct 2019

...Tulsi Gabbard?



I could not possibly make this up.

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Gothmog

(145,111 posts)
11. I agree with Hillary
Fri Oct 18, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019
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