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Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:21 PM

 

The kiss of death for Tulsi's campaign...


If I were to vote in a presidential
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Reply The kiss of death for Tulsi's campaign... (Original post)
brooklynite Oct 19 OP
emulatorloo Oct 19 #1
Pachamama Oct 20 #48
Yoopy Oct 19 #2
StarfishSaver Oct 19 #3
emulatorloo Oct 19 #6
Cha Oct 19 #10
Pachamama Oct 20 #49
Quixote1818 Oct 20 #13
cwydro Oct 20 #19
Quixote1818 Oct 20 #46
MustLoveBeagles Oct 20 #15
IronLionZion Oct 19 #4
Joe941 Oct 19 #5
IronLionZion Oct 19 #7
SMC22307 Oct 19 #8
Quixote1818 Oct 20 #14
SMC22307 Oct 20 #23
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #17
SMC22307 Oct 20 #24
Name removed Oct 20 #27
SMC22307 Oct 20 #29
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #32
SMC22307 Oct 20 #38
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #31
spooky3 Oct 20 #34
SMC22307 Oct 20 #42
spooky3 Oct 20 #33
SMC22307 Oct 20 #37
spooky3 Oct 20 #39
SMC22307 Oct 20 #43
spooky3 Oct 20 #44
Voltaire2 Oct 20 #16
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #18
Voltaire2 Oct 20 #20
SMC22307 Oct 20 #26
spooky3 Oct 20 #41
cwydro Oct 20 #21
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #22
SMC22307 Oct 20 #28
StarfishSaver Oct 20 #36
SMC22307 Oct 20 #45
dewsgirl Oct 19 #9
ritapria Oct 19 #11
LineReply K
Cha Oct 20 #12
mcar Oct 20 #25
SMC22307 Oct 20 #30
dewsgirl Oct 20 #35
Iliyah Oct 20 #40
Gothmog Oct 20 #47

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:23 PM

1. Is this a coveted endorsement?

 

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:22 PM

48. I believe it is indeed

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Kamala Harris

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:26 PM

2. I disagree

 

A dead campaign cannot die.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

3. "Hillary called Tulsi a Russian asset but that's crazy cuz she said the same thing about ME!"

 

Tulsi must be thrilled with THAT defense!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

6. Lol n/t

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:01 PM

10. He's so unbearably stupid

 

prize catch there, TG
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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 11:25 PM

49. I hope that the voters in your area (her constituents) think about that one when they think of TG

 

Yes Cha - he is so unbearably stupid - but in this "endorsement" he admitted that they both are Russian Assets....beautiful...

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:47 AM

13. Tulsi was always toast, but what this does is waters down the Trump / Russian collusion

 

FACTS in the eyes of the casual observer, because now, one of the most powerful Democrats is saying a Democratic congresswoman is just like Trump when it comes to Russia. Anything Russia related starts looking kooky when we HAD Trump on the ropes. Seriously, this helps Trump and puts a huge spotlight on someone who was fading into oblivion and revs up the Dem infighting that had calmed down.
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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:24 AM

19. Agreed.

 

I really don’t get why Hillary did this.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:35 AM

46. This is a pretty good article on this in the Atlantic

 

How Hillary Clinton Boosted Tulsi Gabbard
The 2016 Democratic nominee is right to worry about the congresswoman from Hawaii—but overshot the mark by calling her a Russian asset while offering no proof.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/hillary-clinton-elevating-tulsi-gabbard/600370/
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:58 AM

15. LOL

 

No doubt.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:30 PM

4. What is dead may never die

 

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primary today, I would vote for:
Elizabeth Warren

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:31 PM

5. Honestly I dont know why tulsi is getting to much press...

 

The other candidates need the press.
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:33 PM

7. Media loves controversy

 

And they love to stir it up as much as they can
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:37 PM

8. Because Hillary Clinton opened her mouth...

 

and Trump's meathead base now believes that she called a female combat veteran a Russian asset. Warren's plan for how to pay for M4All isn't exciting, but I guess that is.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:48 AM

14. Bingo! nt

 

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:20 AM

23. Think they're going to milk this all the way to November 2020?

 

They got a ton of mileage from "deplorables."

I think it's safe to say that after decades of the Clintons, I'm Clintoned out.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:14 AM

17. She "opened her mouth"

 

Yes, that always seems to set some people off.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:22 AM

24. What comes out of it is what sets some people off.

 

You may want the ghost of Hillary Clinton lingering over November 2020, but I don't. The perception is that she attacked a female combat veteran -- how are you going to best the vast right-wing noise machine over that one?
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Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:37 AM

29. Seriously, make it stop!

 

The Clintons have been in my life since the freakin' early '90s. Enough. Retire. Enjoy the grandkids. Travel. Bill faded into the background, Hillary needs to do the same.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #29)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:40 AM

32. Lol. You'd love that, wouldn't you?

 

So would Trump and the Russians.

Sorry. None of you are gonna get your wish ...
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #32)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:01 AM

38. I would. And Trump and the Russians...

 

are not going to stop because of anything that comes out of Hillary's mouth. Good luck with that.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:39 AM

31. Yes. Truth bothers some people

 

Funny how when Bernie or Tulsi say things that make people uncomfortable, they're courageous purveyors of honest truth. Hillary says speaks the truth and she needs to stop opening her mouth because she's a "ghost" of campaigns past.

And FYI, only the clueless and compromised will feel offended because they believe Hillary Clinton "attacked a female combat veteran" while thinking it's perfectly fine for Tulsi Gabbard to call our former standard-bearer and first female nominee "the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption,
personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long," who is behind a "concerted effort" to destroy Gabbard's reputation. Everyone else gets it and sees right through Tulsi.

Tulsi's whining is just further evidence of her unfitnest for office. on the other hand, Hillary has more than earned her right to say whatever she wants, however she likes, whenever she chooses.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:46 AM

34. Wish you would post as an OP. Excellent comment. Nt

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #31)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:09 AM

42. The nation is full of "clueless and compromised" and they vote.

 

We shouldn't have to deal with the very polarizing Hillary Clinton in November 2020, but it appears we will be. Good job!

"Everyone" sees right through Tulsi? You keep telling yourself that. Many Americans believe what she said and if she does run third-party, she will cause damage. Just like Jill Stein and Ralph Nader caused damage, right? Thanks, Hillary, for thrusting her into the limelight!
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:45 AM

33. What if HRC is exactly right in what she said? I think

 

She very likely is, and SHOULD speak out.
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Response to spooky3 (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:59 AM

37. She may be right. But middle America is not going to sweat the details...

 

the perception is that she attacked a female combat veteran. How many Dem presidential candidates have now defended Gabbard? They shouldn't have been placed in that position.

Do you honestly believe that the vast majority of Americans care about Russia? Many believe that Mueller came up empty and that Fat Nixon was exonerated. The situation in Ukraine, however, actually seems to have some teeth.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #37)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:04 AM

39. Are you aware that third party candidates pulled a

 

Much bigger percentage of the votes in 2016 than in 2012? Russian interference needs to be called out, even if their Republican puppets won’t act.

HRC spoke out for the benefit of the ENTIRE election process.
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Response to spooky3 (Reply #39)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:15 AM

43. Yes, and do you really think Americans care about Russian interference?

 

No one seems to give a shit. Economy is doing well for many... blind eyes are turned.

Hillary can speak out all she wants, but singling out a Democratic combat veteran candidate -- even if not by name -- was a mistake. Just like when she admitted that using "deplorables" was a mistake. Can't wait for her next book a few years from now where she admits this was a mistake as well.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #43)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:16 AM

44. That's not the point. Nt

 

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Response to Joe941 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 06:30 AM

16. A certain former presidential candidate

 

for whatever reason decided to give Gabbard a huge media boost.
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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:20 AM

18. That certain former presidential candidate made sure a certain current presidential candidate

 

got shut down but good and is unlikely to do any real damage to us as a future third-party presidential candidate.

Democrats should be thanking that former candidate instead of telling her to keep her mouth shut and embracing her detractor.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:25 AM

20. Huh? Gabbard was going nowhere and polling

 

Between zero and 1 per cent. My guess is her polling numbers will go up at least briefly from this horseshit.

And all this infighting nonsense just distracts from the problem in the offal office.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:32 AM

26. LOL The vast majority of Americans have never heard of Tulsi Gabbard.

 

Thanks to Clinton, they've heard of her now: the female combat veteran accused by Hillary of being a Russian asset. That's what the perception is.

What degree of damage is "real" from a third-party candidate? I've heard ad nauseam that Jill Stein cost us the election. Any votes that don't go to the Democrat hurt us. What, exactly, is "real damage" in your mind? If Stein and Gabbard both decide to run, Dems are hurt.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #26)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:06 AM

41. Iowa voters are VERY aware of issues like this and far more

 

Involved than many. Good system or not, they have an outside role in the process, and will be paying a lot of attention to this story.
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:26 AM

21. She wasn't getting that press before Hillary's statement.

 

Absolutely baffling why she had to do that.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 08:29 AM

22. And the press she's getting now isn't doing her any good, it will disappear in a few days,

 

and she's pretty much taken out as a third party candidate.

Nicely done, Hillary.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #22)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:35 AM

28. You keep telling yourself that.

 

Right-wing media is ALL over this and they're not going to let go. RW media hasn't let go of thinks Hillary said back in the '90s, FFS.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #28)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:51 AM

36. RW media also says that Trump is king, Biden's corrupt and Elizabeth Warren's a Socialist

 

Who gives a fig what they have to say about anything?
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:21 AM

45. Because a terrifying number of Americans believe them, they vote, and we get hosed.

 

But, yes, go with the la-la-la-fingers-in-the-ears approach. That helped us so much with the battle over the ACA -- historic Democratic losses afterwards that states like North Carolina are still trying to recover from.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:46 PM

9. #ETTD (Everything Trump touches dies)

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:09 PM

11. Tulsi almost was Named Trump Sec. of State

 

From The Hill : "Tulsi Gabbard is the Pick for Sec. of State , not Mitt Romney" ……...
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 01:26 AM

12. K

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:22 AM

25. Kick!

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kamala Harris

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:38 AM

30. Magical thinking. (n/t)

 

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 09:48 AM

35. #ettd

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Pete Buttigieg

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 10:04 AM

40. t-rump, Tusi, Stein and the rest . . .

 

HRC did not name anyone. What say you.
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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Oct 20, 2019, 12:14 PM

47. Yep

 

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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