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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:28 PM Oct 2019

Here's the official FEC page reporting Presidential candidates fundraising. Interestingly,

of almost 50 million Tom Steyer has raised, he contributed almost $48 million to his own campaign.

He can claim the dubious distinction of being the only candidate who has bought his way to the debate stage.

Biden's raised about the same amount of money as Kamala Harris -- far less than the other front runners.

https://www.fec.gov/data/candidates/president/?election_year=2020&cycle=2020&election_full=true

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Here's the official FEC page reporting Presidential candidates fundraising. Interestingly, (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2019 OP
This no longer matters... Biden's shadow campaign will soon get sweet SUPER PAC money bluewater Oct 2019 #1
If it doesn't matter, why keep reposting the same thing over and over again in response to beastie boy Oct 2019 #2
Ya think?? Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #3
I would have to think that the Sanders supporters (I am deffo not one) here might find this Celerity Oct 2019 #16
I don't see any Biden "bashing" posts in this thread, but people are bashing a DUer. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #19
call it what you wish perhaps I could have put 'bash' in quotes I suppose Celerity Oct 2019 #24
Thank you for understanding my point. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #25
+1 Celerity Oct 2019 #26
I agree with you Andy823 Oct 2019 #23
Why is mentioning Biden's flipflop on Super Pacs in a campaign finance thread an issue? bluewater Oct 2019 #4
The issue is mentioning the same thing over and over again. beastie boy Oct 2019 #5
... Cha Oct 2019 #6
So you also object to me posting about the 1994 Crime Bill in threads about criminal justice? lol bluewater Oct 2019 #7
No, I object to the purpose of your repetitive posts. beastie boy Oct 2019 #8
Did you miss the part where Biden flipflopped on Super Pacs? bluewater Oct 2019 #9
No need to prove me right. I already did it, and without your assistance. beastie boy Oct 2019 #10
Oh, one more thing... bluewater Oct 2019 #11
.... RudyColludie Oct 2019 #14
Between us Biden supporters, I've heard better advice from trolls beastie boy Oct 2019 #18
Wow, nice. cwydro Oct 2019 #21
Dude, no one cares when you say "what I object to" RudyColludie Oct 2019 #13
The thing about a discussion board is that people can post whatever they want. cwydro Oct 2019 #22
I gratefully acknowledge your sentiment. I will continue to speak my mind. beastie boy Oct 2019 #27
Selective outrage? HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #29
Please see Reply 30. beastie boy Oct 2019 #31
In that post you admit you did not complain about anti-Sanders postings. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #34
Do you object to all the repetitive posts that are negative about other candidates? HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #28
Actually, when theee posts become gratuitously repetitive, I do. beastie boy Oct 2019 #30
Thanks for admitting you did not complain about the anti-Sanders postings. HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #33
Oh please! I think it's time for me to stop taking you seriously. beastie boy Oct 2019 #36
convicted by your own words... so to speak. lol bluewater Oct 2019 #37
I think you just outed yourself, Bluewater.You are posting here under a number of different monikers beastie boy Oct 2019 #38
um no, typos are what typos are lol bluewater Oct 2019 #39
Very convincing, bluewater. Especially after you included the laughing smiley rolling on the floor. beastie boy Oct 2019 #40
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #41
When YOU discredit yourself, it's not a personal attack. Unless you want to take the credit. beastie boy Oct 2019 #42
I think the terms of service are clear bluewater Oct 2019 #43
I am Spartacus RudyColludie Oct 2019 #44
Easy there, Spartacus! HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #45
Captain Queeg? That was a great scene HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #46
Bull's Eye!! n/t PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #17
Why do those posts have to leave out Biden's reversal of his opposition to Super Pacs? HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #20
"...far less than the other front runners." myohmy2 Oct 2019 #12
Thanks for posting! BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #15
"Of almost 50 million Tom Steyer has raised, he contributed almost $48 million to his own campaign" FM123 Oct 2019 #32
Yeah, I hope he is as generous promoting Democrats during the general election pnwmom Oct 2019 #35
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. This no longer matters... Biden's shadow campaign will soon get sweet SUPER PAC money
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
Oct 2019

from rich individual donors and corporations:

Biden Campaign Drops Opposition to Super PAC Support
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/politics/joe-biden-super-pac.html

Can candidates have super PACs?

Officially no. But it's easy to understand why it sometimes can seem as though they do. Although a candidate cannot coordinate expenditures with a super PAC (tell the PAC where an ad might be placed, whether the ad should be positive or negative, or what voters canvassers should contact), there's no law that says a candidate can't have connections with a the entities backing his or her election. Many super PACs — such as the one supporting Romney, the pro-Newt Gingrich Winning Our Future, and Priorities USA, which backs President Obama — are run by former top aides of the candidates. And candidates can headline fundraisers for the super PACs that are supporting them (as Romney has) so long as they don't ask for donations beyond the legal limits permitted for their own campaign committees. Donors are free to write larger checks and super PAC staffers are free to ask for them, but as long as the candidate abides by federal campaign limits or doesn’t actually ask for funds. it’s all kosher. Bottom line: There's a legal prohibition against candidates' coordinating with super PACs but the FEC has been exceedingly lenient in defining what constitutions coordination, as University of California law professor Rick Hasen pithily outlines in his Election Law Blog.



What can super PACs do with their money?

Anything except contribute directly to, or coordinate expenditures with, candidates and candidate committees. They can pay for any typical political expenditure, and then some. Super PACs can and do pay for television ads, phone banks, canvassers and bumper stickers. In other words, they can act as a shadow campaign.



What makes a super PAC super?

Traditional political action committees are bound by a $5,000 annual limit on the size of contributions they can accept from individuals and are prohibited from accepting contributions from corporations and labor unions. A super PAC is freed from these restrictions under two conditions: The PAC must neither 1) give money directly to a candidate or other political committees that give directly to candidates, nor 2) coordinate how it spends its money with a federal candidate. As long as those two conditions are met, a super PAC may accept donations directly from corporate or union treasuries and in amounts that are limited only by the size of donors' bank accounts. Movie mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg wrote a $2 million check to the super PAC backing President Obama's reelection; casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and his wife have reportedly underwritten a super PAC backing Newt Gingrich to the tune of $10 million. Neither of these donations could have been legally given to a traditional PAC.



What's so new about the corporate and union activity? Haven't big labor and big business been active in political campaigns for years?

The Supreme Court’s ruling in Citizens United made it easier for corporations and unions to use their treasuries to directly influence elections. Some restrictions remain: if they want to give directly to candidates, they still have to establish political action committees and raise funds for them. But there are limits on how much traditional political action committees can accept in contributions and from whom: Currently, the cap on individual contributions is $5,000 a year. Donors to traditional union and corporate PACS must work for or own shares in those corporations or belong to those unions. They must be identified and the amounts of their donations made public. By contrast, super PACs can accept money in unlimited amounts from unions, corporations and unaffiliated individuals as well as from non-profit organizations that have been incorporated under innocuous-sounding names and that do not have to report the sources of their funding. That means individuals and entities with whom candidates might not wish to be publicly associated can support their campaigns anonymously.


https://sunlightfoundation.com/2012/01/31/nine-things-you-need-know-about-super-pacs/
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
2. If it doesn't matter, why keep reposting the same thing over and over again in response to
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 09:11 PM
Oct 2019

every post that is remotely connected to Biden?

One might get an impression that he hurt your feelings and you can't get over it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,606 posts)
3. Ya think??
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 09:24 PM
Oct 2019

Negative posting never changes the minds of voters... another reason?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(42,649 posts)
16. I would have to think that the Sanders supporters (I am deffo not one) here might find this
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 07:24 AM
Oct 2019
Negative posting never changes the minds of voters... another reason?

slightly ironic

I am NOT condoning the repetitive Biden bashing posts that are the subject here, but I do find it also ironic as to some who (not you btw) have been engaging in the exact same thread-bombing now taking issue with (or agreeing with another reply who is taking issue) the exact same behaviour simply because of who is the target in this case.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
19. I don't see any Biden "bashing" posts in this thread, but people are bashing a DUer.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:39 AM
Oct 2019

In fact looking at the list of posts being complained about, none of them are "bashing" Biden.

What they are doing is presenting accurate information and news articles about Biden's reversal on his long held opposition to super pacs.

If these were described as accurate posts that are consistently presenting Biden in a negative light to dissuade voters, I would agree with that assessment. But they are not "bashing".

I consider "bashing" posts to be like the recent slew of anti-Sanders posts showing fuzzy photo's of his recent rally and trying to claim that the crowd is too white. What's incredible is that some of the participants in those threads are now here complaining about Biden being "bashed".

In closing, people who complain about their candidate "being bashed" seem to have no problem with posts that are constantly negative about Bernie Sanders, you were absolutely on target making that point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(42,649 posts)
24. call it what you wish perhaps I could have put 'bash' in quotes I suppose
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:10 AM
Oct 2019

As you gathered, my main point was the repetitive nature from all sides and especially the selective outrage. The primaries cannot come soon enough for me so we can all focus on defeating Trump, regardless of who is our primary winner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
25. Thank you for understanding my point.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:15 AM
Oct 2019

Perhaps putting it in quotes would have been best, since I feel too many people might run with that while ignoring your point.

Other than, I totally agree with the spirit of your post.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
23. I agree with you
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:48 AM
Oct 2019

All the Harris bashing here after the first debate, never changed my mind, nor the attacks on Warren by pretty much the same bashers. Harris is still my first choice, and Warren is my second choice.

The bottom line is, whoever wins the nomination will get my support, and the support of every person who hates what trump has done to this country. We will get rid of him because as Joe himself said, "every one of our candidates can beat trump".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. Why is mentioning Biden's flipflop on Super Pacs in a campaign finance thread an issue?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 09:35 PM
Oct 2019

Is there something wrong in accurately pointing out how Super Pacs work -- especially how they can get unlimited funds from rich individual donors and corporations -- that I should stop posting about it when fundraising in the 2020 Democratic primary comes up?







If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
5. The issue is mentioning the same thing over and over again.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:33 PM
Oct 2019

These are your Super Pac posts in the past three days just the ones I was able to locate), from three different threads:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325703#post1
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325310#post1
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325310#post6
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287323463#post6
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287323463#post11
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287323463#post41
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287323463#post45

And here are your 1994 Act posts from just today (again, just the ones I could find):

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325737#post3
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325737#post8
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325600#post31
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287325600#post24

Many of them have identical content. And what do they all have in common? Bashing Biden. If you show me any of your posts that that show how super pacs work sans the Biden bashing context, I might agree with you that there is nothing wrong in pointing out how super pacs work.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,903 posts)
6. ...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:37 PM
Oct 2019
beastie boy!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. So you also object to me posting about the 1994 Crime Bill in threads about criminal justice? lol
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:45 PM
Oct 2019



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
8. No, I object to the purpose of your repetitive posts.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 10:56 PM
Oct 2019

Since there is no logical purpose to posting the same thing over and over again, I can only conclude that that your purpose is other than informational. And the only thing I can find present in all of your posts is the expression of extreme antipathy towards one, and only one, Democratic candidate. The history of your posts suggests that your mentions of both the 1994 crime bill and super pacs are incidental to posting something negative about Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
9. Did you miss the part where Biden flipflopped on Super Pacs?
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:14 PM
Oct 2019
Biden Campaign Drops Opposition to Super PAC Support

Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign effectively dropped its longstanding opposition to receiving the assistance of super PACs on Thursday, opening the door for wealthy supporters to spend unlimited amounts of money to try and lift him in the Democratic primary.
The move represents a stark reversal and an implicit acknowledgment of his weakened position in the contest. He entered October with only $9 million in the bank, a fraction of his leading rivals.
Mr. Biden had explicitly denounced support from a super PAC in his 2020 run and had previously said he would not have blessed one if he had run in 2016. As recently as a month ago, when a possible pro-Biden super PAC surfaced, his campaign denounced the effort.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/politics/joe-biden-super-pac.html

This is current news.

And here you are objecting to me posting current news about a candidate in the Primary Forum because it reflects poorly on your preferred candidate?

This is what the vast majority of threads and responses are trying to do here because it's a political forum. And that's is what happens on political forums. Is this news? lol

Seriously?

That's is exactly how the vetting process works and it's done all the time by many people on this forum.

So, yes, if the 1994 Crime Bill comes up, it's reasonable to point out that Senator Joe Biden was its co-author and that it was a bad bill that led to mass incarcerations of minorities.

And, yes, if campaign funding comes up, it's reasonable to point out that "Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s campaign effectively dropped its longstanding opposition to receiving the assistance of super PACs." because his fundraising is going so badly.

So when you say: "I object to the purpose of your repetitive posts."

The purpose of those posts is to highlight what mistakes I think your candidate has made .

That's all part of vetting and , gasp, the intention is to highlight those mistakes your preferred candidate has made and to influence people not to vote for him in the primaries.

This is what the threads and responses are trying to do here because this is a political forum. People are trying to influence how other people vote and a large part of that entails pointing out flaws in other candidates. Is this really a surprise or something?



Like it or not, Joe Biden is the current front runner and as the front runner he comes under the most scrutiny.



But thank you for providing me this opportunity to highlight these points in this thread.





I
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
10. No need to prove me right. I already did it, and without your assistance.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:23 PM
Oct 2019

But you can add one more post to your Biden bashing record.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. Oh, one more thing...
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:34 PM
Oct 2019


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RudyColludie

(43 posts)
14. ....
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 01:21 AM
Oct 2019

pssst just between us Biden supporters, trying to control what people post is not the way to go, looks bad.. real bad...



It's Biden Time!



Vote Joe or Trump won't Go!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
18. Between us Biden supporters, I've heard better advice from trolls
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 08:09 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RudyColludie

(43 posts)
13. Dude, no one cares when you say "what I object to"
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 01:16 AM
Oct 2019

It's an instant turn off.

And what's wrong with mentioning the 1994 crime bill?

That bill was fine it was great! I am proud that Joe wrote the damn bill.

What is your problem with it? I dare you to name anything wrong with the 1994 crime bill.




It's Biden Time!



Vote Joe or Trump won't Go!



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. The thing about a discussion board is that people can post whatever they want.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:48 AM
Oct 2019

Trash thread and ignore are handy-dandy features if you’re easily offended.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
27. I gratefully acknowledge your sentiment. I will continue to speak my mind.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:20 AM
Oct 2019

Especially when I can document what's on my mind. And if I ever get offended, easily or not, I will indeed partake of the handy-dandy features you mentioned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
29. Selective outrage?
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:26 AM
Oct 2019

Did I miss your objections to all the repetitive negative posts complaining about Bernie Sanders crowds being too white?

Several of those same people are posting in this thread is why I ask.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
34. In that post you admit you did not complain about anti-Sanders postings.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:26 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
28. Do you object to all the repetitive posts that are negative about other candidates?
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:22 AM
Oct 2019

Like all the negative posts about Sanders' latest rally claiming the crowd was too white?

I must have missed that...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
30. Actually, when theee posts become gratuitously repetitive, I do.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:34 AM
Oct 2019

In my opinion, the "Sanders too white" argument has certainly been overplayed on DU. But not being a Bernie supporter, I believe posts like these can be addressed more competently by the people who are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
33. Thanks for admitting you did not complain about the anti-Sanders postings.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:24 AM
Oct 2019

That say's it all. It is selective outrage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
36. Oh please! I think it's time for me to stop taking you seriously.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 02:39 PM
Oct 2019

Your definition of selective outrage doesn't create in me a sense of obligation. Contact Webster's if yo want to dispute it, but I've had enough of your nonsense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
37. convicted by your own words... so to speak. lol
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019

"But not being a Bernie supporter, I believe posts like these can be addressed more competently by the people who are."



As I stated, you admitted you did not complain about those anti-Sanders postings.

Sorry, but that is the truth.

So much selective outrage, hmm? Left it to Sanders supporters to condemn anti-Sanders posts... Ok.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
38. I think you just outed yourself, Bluewater.You are posting here under a number of different monikers
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:10 PM
Oct 2019

Otherwise, you cannot possibly explain your "As I stated, you admitted you did not complain about those anti-Sanders postings." Bluewater, never stated it. But HeartlandProgressive sure did!You just got caught red-handed. How nice of you to lend such unwavering support to your other self! And no, it's not against DU rules to post under different names. But in your case, it's pretty dishonest.

But back to the issue: I as much admitted I did not complain about anti-Sanders supporters as I admitted to posting on DU. You want more admissions? I admit I did not complain about anti-Gabbard postings. And anti-Harris posters. And anti-Buttigieg posters. OMG! That totally disqualifies me from ever criticizing you... I mean HeartlandProgressive... or whatever persona you happen to assume, for excessive Biden bashing, right?

Taking your other posts as not Bluewater into account, it appears your Biden bashing is even more excessive than I first thought. This is a pretty silly game you are playing. Please find someone your own age if you wish to continue it. I am done with you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
39. um no, typos are what typos are lol
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:25 PM
Oct 2019

"As I stated" was just a typo for "As was stated"




but hey, nice attempt at deflection.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
40. Very convincing, bluewater. Especially after you included the laughing smiley rolling on the floor.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:31 PM
Oct 2019

You totally discredited yourself, and don't expect me to be silent about it in the future. Deal with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to beastie boy (Reply #40)

 

beastie boy

(9,059 posts)
42. When YOU discredit yourself, it's not a personal attack. Unless you want to take the credit.
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:45 PM
Oct 2019

And, out of my respect for emojis, I will not get into an argument over them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
43. I think the terms of service are clear
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:50 PM
Oct 2019
Civility
No personal attacks or flaming
Do not personally attack, insult, flame, threaten, bully, harass, stalk, negatively call-out, ascribe ugly ulterior motives to, or make baseless claims about any member of this community. Do not post in a manner that is hostile, abusive, or aggressive toward any member of this community.
Why we have this rule: Civility begets quality discussions. Democratic Underground members are highly passionate about politics which means discussions can get heated -- but they don't need to get nasty. There's no reason why a community of intelligent adults who agree on a majority of political issues can't have a conversation without insulting each other or resorting to other anti-social behaviors.


Pardon the repetition, but I think it's worth posting that again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
46. Captain Queeg? That was a great scene
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 05:37 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Mon Oct 28, 2019, 10:22 AM - Edit history (1)



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
20. Why do those posts have to leave out Biden's reversal of his opposition to Super Pacs?
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 09:43 AM
Oct 2019

Because pointing out the truth shows Biden in a bad light and might dissuade voters from supporting him?

Sorry, but that's not how a political forum works. One side does not get to censor postings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

myohmy2

(3,118 posts)
12. "...far less than the other front runners."
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 11:40 PM
Oct 2019

...this is horrible...

...and the FEC doesn't lie...


...I'll pray for Joe...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
15. Thanks for posting!
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 04:28 AM
Oct 2019


What I loved most seeing is that Elizabeth Warren has disbursed just more than half of the money that she has raised so far.

To me, that shows that she is putting her funds to good use!

Knowing how to spend money effectively is an excellent quality in a candidate, IMO.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,050 posts)
32. "Of almost 50 million Tom Steyer has raised, he contributed almost $48 million to his own campaign"
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 10:37 AM
Oct 2019

Wow! Am I the only one thinking that that is A LOT of money that could have been better spent somewhere else? Like helping our Dems across the board...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
35. Yeah, I hope he is as generous promoting Democrats during the general election
Sun Oct 27, 2019, 11:58 AM
Oct 2019

as he is being with himself. We'll see if he genuinely cares or not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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