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New Morning Consult Poll (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 OP
That's a great poll for Joe! bluewater Oct 2019 #1
Consistently the leader LakeArenal Oct 2019 #2
Steyer is a mover, up to 6% in early states, and Warren is stalling, Pete is up slightly too Celerity Oct 2019 #3
Steyer will win Iowa at this rate! Maybe New Hampshire too. bluewater Oct 2019 #4
that part of the poll (early states) is not included in the RCP average nt Celerity Oct 2019 #5
Darn. I was really pumped for Steyer doing well on that. bluewater Oct 2019 #6
no, Morning Consult is not an approved poll for qualifying Celerity Oct 2019 #9
WHAT! Morning Consult is not a qualifying poll for the debates??!! bluewater Oct 2019 #10
I do not rate it that highly, it is not as bad as HarrisX and Change Research, but its not Celerity Oct 2019 #11
He will be helpful in President Warren's administration... CTyankee Oct 2019 #24
populism... boomer_wv Oct 2019 #7
Absolutely. Money talks. bluewater Oct 2019 #8
It is the truth...but I still don't like it...we need to win and make it better. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #12
That's not what I'm saying though. boomer_wv Oct 2019 #16
I think you are correct. It would lead to only the rich being able to run for president and other Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #21
At least make the billionaires work for their control. Beats letting them buy candidates. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #15
cynical. boomer_wv Oct 2019 #17
Reality. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #18
. boomer_wv Oct 2019 #19
Biden did not feather his nest during his time in the Senate. Sen. Sanders is wealthier than Biden Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #22
"This is troubling for Bernie." LanternWaste Oct 2019 #23
He's obviously on the move with the voters Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #13
With the exception of the Quinnipiac outlier, pretty consistent with top qualifying polls. beastie boy Oct 2019 #14
Here is some interesting polling Gothmog Oct 2019 #20
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. That's a great poll for Joe!
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:00 PM
Oct 2019

This should move him up 5-6% at RCP POLLS.

I am jealous for my preferred candidate.

the polls are what the polls are

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
2. Consistently the leader
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:01 PM
Oct 2019

Joe 2020

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Celerity

(43,286 posts)
3. Steyer is a mover, up to 6% in early states, and Warren is stalling, Pete is up slightly too
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:05 PM
Oct 2019

Gabbard at 3%, bleeech

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
4. Steyer will win Iowa at this rate! Maybe New Hampshire too.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:13 PM
Oct 2019

This is a great poll for Steyer too!

I bet he will go up 5-6% at RCP POLLS now.

I am jealous for my preferred candidate.

As I always say...

The polls are what the polls are

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Celerity

(43,286 posts)
5. that part of the poll (early states) is not included in the RCP average nt
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:16 PM
Oct 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. Darn. I was really pumped for Steyer doing well on that.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:19 PM
Oct 2019

Steyer is hands down the best billionaire in the race. Period.

This counts as a debate qualifying poll though, right?

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
10. WHAT! Morning Consult is not a qualifying poll for the debates??!!
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:33 PM
Oct 2019

Why? It's a great poll. Possibly the single best online panel poll.

It's always been a great poll for Joe!

What does the DNC have against this stellar B- rated online poll?

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Celerity

(43,286 posts)
11. I do not rate it that highly, it is not as bad as HarrisX and Change Research, but its not
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oct 2019

top tier for me. Just my tuppence. I am sure some candidates' supporters will take issue because it favours their preferred choice, and others will agree with me as they do not like the results. Some of the polls I think are the best are not ones that Pete is doing great in. I try to be objective. I get stick from most all groups on many things, so I think I am doing something right, lolol.

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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
24. He will be helpful in President Warren's administration...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

I see him as a very good guy, smart, a rich guy who knows Trumpy and has a social conscience.

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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
7. populism...
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:26 PM
Oct 2019

and the idea that candidates shouldn't take money from big donors is going to lead to only billionaires being able to win the presidency. I'm not sure that's how people saw it.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. Absolutely. Money talks.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:30 PM
Oct 2019

Its all about the moo lah lah, baby!

If you can't get money from the rich donor class, you don't have a chance to become President any more, you are so right!

Yeah, that hurts, but the truth hurts.

Right?

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
12. It is the truth...but I still don't like it...we need to win and make it better.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:50 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
16. That's not what I'm saying though.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:57 PM
Oct 2019

The villainization of using big donors is making these guys that "self-fund" look better. That's the wrong direction. Trump used it to make people think he was his own man and would fight corruption by "not needing" big donor money. Steyer has been able to propel himself into the debates and now into the 3rd tier of candidates (the limit to viability imo) just by pouring his money into it.

I think that being able to use PACs and draw in big money is an equalizer to billionaires just being able to outspend other campaigns. I'm not so sure we need to be in a rush to get rid of it.

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
21. I think you are correct. It would lead to only the rich being able to run for president and other
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:54 AM
Oct 2019

offices. I believe those who give to pacs should be identified in FEC filings...that would help in this matter.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
15. At least make the billionaires work for their control. Beats letting them buy candidates.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:44 PM
Oct 2019
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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
17. cynical.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 10:08 PM
Oct 2019

If you pick a candidate that you trust to not be corrupt, you can trust them to not give quid pro quoes in exchange for big donations.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
18. Reality.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 10:39 PM
Oct 2019

How else have corporations and wealthy feathered their nests so well the last 40 years? By coincidence?

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boomer_wv

(673 posts)
19. .
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 10:58 PM
Oct 2019

Which nests was Obama feathering?

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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
22. Biden did not feather his nest during his time in the Senate. Sen. Sanders is wealthier than Biden
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 10:55 AM
Oct 2019

was after decades in the Senate...yet he took donations.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. "This is troubling for Bernie."
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:11 AM
Oct 2019

"Very concerning..."

(but I certainly won't pretend it's 'disqualifying'... that would be far too absurd for even my cat to accept as anything other than more nip-in-a-sock)

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Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
13. He's obviously on the move with the voters
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:01 PM
Oct 2019

Can’t help but think some of his rise in the polls has to do with what has happened in northern Syria. It’s unnerving to most Americans. Those in the military have leaned towards dotard and other repubs...not so much now... just my thoughts

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beastie boy

(9,293 posts)
14. With the exception of the Quinnipiac outlier, pretty consistent with top qualifying polls.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 09:21 PM
Oct 2019

Not that Biden, or the top five candidates, are concerned about qualifying.

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Gothmog

(145,086 posts)
20. Here is some interesting polling
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:24 PM
Oct 2019
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