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Voltaire2

(13,017 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:34 PM Oct 2019

Sanders leads, Biden slumps in N.H. poll

Elizabeth Warren was in second place, while Pete Buttigieg was fourth and clinched a ticket to the POLITICO/PBS NewsHour debate in December


DURHAM, N.H. — Former Vice President Joe Biden suffered a precipitous drop in the latest New Hampshire poll, falling to the lowest point his campaign has seen this election, while Sen. Bernie Sanders recaptured his first-place spot narrowly over Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

Sanders was the first choice of 21 percent of likely Democratic primary voters, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 18 percent, Biden at 15 percent and South Bend (Ind.) Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 10 percent, according to the Granite State Poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire and co-sponsored by CNN.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/29/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-new-hampshire-poll-061068
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Sanders leads, Biden slumps in N.H. poll (Original Post) Voltaire2 Oct 2019 OP
If they come out of NH even.... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #1
Just a blip on the map... don't have a sad.. he will be back Peacetrain Oct 2019 #2
See my post #4 - the differences between the three is miniscule. George II Oct 2019 #5
A St. Anselm's College NH Poll had Bernie in 4th at 10% ritapria Oct 2019 #3
And there are 57% who haven't decided. Put in REAL terms: George II Oct 2019 #4
"Fifty-seven percent of New Hampshire voters are still trying to decide who they will support." ehrnst Oct 2019 #6
Funny melman Oct 2019 #7
Hmm, that's the third response to me in two threads in less than a half hour. Are you following me? George II Oct 2019 #9
Understanding the poll and it's results seems to be a good thing. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #13
LMFAO!! It's the "Bernie Standard" at play here... dontcha know?! Get with the program!! haha!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #19
... BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #25
I don't ever recall seeing a poll where almost 3/5 of the respondents are "undecided"..... George II Oct 2019 #23
Here is some interesting polling Gothmog Oct 2019 #8
Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #10
what? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #12
There was mention of his supporters, too - some of whom did vote third party (i.e., Jill Stein).... George II Oct 2019 #14
Jill Stein was not a Sanders supporter in 2016 Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #17
Right, but she's the one that Sanders' supporters voted FOR, and some of them have now been hired... George II Oct 2019 #18
Isn't he already lined up on one ballot as an independent? NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #15
please provide a link to sanders running as an independent for president. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #16
Where did I say such a thing? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #20
Oh so your point was just nonsense right from Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #26
Not nonsense in the least. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #27
No serious proposition has ever started with the words "I believe" Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #28
I believe your absolute statement... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #29
One would expect either EW or sanders to lead in NH since it's their neck of the woods Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #11
If Liz led their NH Poll ritapria Oct 2019 #21
CNN has mentioned it at least once every hour since it was released this morning, sometimes twice... George II Oct 2019 #24
Blame the Media or Blame the Polling. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #30
Bernard wins Iowa Youth Vote Caucus ritapria Oct 2019 #22
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
1. If they come out of NH even....
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:38 PM
Oct 2019

Wow. Never would have expected it.

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Peacetrain

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2. Just a blip on the map... don't have a sad.. he will be back
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:38 PM
Oct 2019

Go go go Joe!!

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George II

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5. See my post #4 - the differences between the three is miniscule.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:48 PM
Oct 2019
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
3. A St. Anselm's College NH Poll had Bernie in 4th at 10%
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:40 PM
Oct 2019

The latest CBS/YouGuv NH places Bernie in 3rd place ….I am not taking these polls very seriously - whether they give me good news or bad

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George II

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4. And there are 57% who haven't decided. Put in REAL terms:
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 04:45 PM
Oct 2019

Sanders - 21% of 43%, 9.0% of the voters
Warren - 18% of 43%, 7.7% of the voters
Biden - 15% of 43%, 6.5% of the voters.

Among ALL voters Sanders is ahead of Warren by 1.3% and Biden by 2.5%.

In raw numbers, of the 1,266 polled, only 544 have a preference or are "leaning" - 114 preferred Sanders, 98 preferred Warren, 82 preferred Biden. Only 32 people out of the 1,266 people polled preferred Sanders over Biden.

Wooo hooo!!!

Lost in all of this is that 36% feel Biden has the best chance in the General Election, only 18% think Warren does, and only 14% think Sanders does.

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ehrnst

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6. "Fifty-seven percent of New Hampshire voters are still trying to decide who they will support."
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:02 PM
Oct 2019

Such a win!

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melman

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7. Funny
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:20 PM
Oct 2019

I don't recall this kind of poll parsing when Biden was in the lead.

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George II

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9. Hmm, that's the third response to me in two threads in less than a half hour. Are you following me?
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:27 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:00 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm so glad I play such an important part in your life. I promise not to let you down.

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TidalWave46

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13. Understanding the poll and it's results seems to be a good thing.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:48 PM
Oct 2019

They were on point with the op.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

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19. LMFAO!! It's the "Bernie Standard" at play here... dontcha know?! Get with the program!! haha!!
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:28 PM
Oct 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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George II

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23. I don't ever recall seeing a poll where almost 3/5 of the respondents are "undecided".....
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:21 PM
Oct 2019

That calls into question the validity of the "lead". In fact, more than half of those being counted are still undecided as well, but they're "leaning". Certainly not a definitive poll, don't you agree?

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Gothmog

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8. Here is some interesting polling
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:21 PM
Oct 2019
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Voltaire2

(13,017 posts)
12. what?
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:39 PM
Oct 2019

Please try to keep it civil. There is no need to attack Sanders supporters. Nor is there any basis to imply that Sanders is going to run a third party campaign.

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George II

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14. There was mention of his supporters, too - some of whom did vote third party (i.e., Jill Stein)....
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:05 PM
Oct 2019

....and some are among the top echelon of his campaign staff.

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Voltaire2

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17. Jill Stein was not a Sanders supporter in 2016
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oct 2019

she was the running for president on the Green Party ticket. You probably meant Sarandon, who was indeed a jerk in 2016.

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George II

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18. Right, but she's the one that Sanders' supporters voted FOR, and some of them have now been hired...
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:20 PM
Oct 2019

....to head up his campaign.

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TidalWave46

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15. Isn't he already lined up on one ballot as an independent? NT
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:10 PM
Oct 2019
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Voltaire2

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16. please provide a link to sanders running as an independent for president.
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019
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TidalWave46

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20. Where did I say such a thing?
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:37 PM
Oct 2019

I believe he has already registered a third party campaign.

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Voltaire2

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26. Oh so your point was just nonsense right from
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:40 AM
Oct 2019

the start. In a discussion about an assertion that Sanders would run a third party presidential campaign you tried to pretend that his status as an independent senator is evidence that he is going to run as a third party presidential campaign. Got it.

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TidalWave46

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27. Not nonsense in the least.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:15 AM
Oct 2019

I believe my statement to be completely accurate. He is already running under two different flags.

Sorry it’s such a touchy subject for you. I can understand why. In the end none of it really matters. He is going to end up with almost no delegates.

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Act_of_Reparation

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28. No serious proposition has ever started with the words "I believe"
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:49 AM
Oct 2019
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TidalWave46

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29. I believe your absolute statement...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:56 AM
Oct 2019

Cannot be defined as something absolute.

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Thekaspervote

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11. One would expect either EW or sanders to lead in NH since it's their neck of the woods
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 05:36 PM
Oct 2019

But, the other poll posted here by Gothmog, kinda throws it all in play.

Certainly Joe Biden this past week has had a bunch of state and national polls showing he’s padding his leads or retaking lost ground

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ritapria

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21. If Liz led their NH Poll
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 06:49 PM
Oct 2019

CNN would Proclaim : WARREN WINNING.. WOW …...Now that Bernie is leading …..Crickets …...CNN and MSNBC are on Team Warren ...I don't have any problem with that ...I wish they would stop pretending to be objective …

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George II

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24. CNN has mentioned it at least once every hour since it was released this morning, sometimes twice...
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 08:27 PM
Oct 2019

They had a red banner at the top of their page this morning when it was first released, and it's still in the left column of their website home page.

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LanternWaste

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30. Blame the Media or Blame the Polling.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 11:42 AM
Oct 2019

Seems those are the last two excuses being used consistently and reliably.

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ritapria

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22. Bernard wins Iowa Youth Vote Caucus
Tue Oct 29, 2019, 07:14 PM
Oct 2019

Sanders 25.1 % 3,364 votes ….Biden 12.6% 1691 votes …..Yang 12.0% 1611 votes ... Buttigieg 11.6% 1557 votes ..... Warren 8.0% 1068 votes …………. High School students across Iowa participated in this straw poll

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