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Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:04 PM

 

Elizabeth Warren's Brilliant Medicare For All Plan



Progressive Democrats like Elizabeth Warren's detailed new plan for Medicare for All. Her plan will prevent American families from going bankrupt due to catastrophic medical expenses. It will no longer fund Insurance companies who have given their top CEO's 1.1 billion dollars in pay while 87 million Americans are under-insured. Coverage is not job dependent. You will be able to see any Doctor you choose and MFA will cover dental and vision expenses. The average American family of four will save about $12,000 a year and the money chipped in by employers for their share of insurance will become a raise in the employees paycheck.
Warren plans to pay for MFA with targeted spending cuts, taxes on giant corporations and the richest 1%. She vows to not raise taxes on the middle class working families by even one penny.

My question is: "Do any of the other Presidential Candidates besides Bernie, have such a detailed plan to benefit American families?".

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Response to sagesnow (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:13 PM

1. My question is, how's she gonna get it through Congress?

 

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:16 PM

2. Mine is, are we sure the Repukes will still be a majority in the Senate in 2021?

 

If not, there's no reason to cross it off
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:17 PM

3. If Trump can build a wall no one wants

 

and steal Pentagon funds in the process, should be no problem.
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:19 PM

4. I'm working to help flip my US Senator's seat blue.

 

If we don't get out and work our tails off to get Democrats elected we are going to get bupkis under a second Trump Administration.
As Warren likes to say "you don't get what you don't fight for".
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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:43 PM

9. Not yet. But we can fight to add more Dems in 2022.

 

And continue to fight against the fear factor that the RW has fostered over the last 4 decades, instead of giving into it.
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Response to sagesnow (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:22 PM

5. First, her main funding source is a tax on employers. So, there is no big pay raise awaiting.

 

The middle class will pay it, one way or the other. Heck, the tax on employers is a tax on middle class.

The most disturbing thing I find in Warren's latest is that the cost is not $34 Trillion over 10 years, but $52 Trillion. How much will it be next year as the election approaches.

With that said, we need to get everyone covered with insurance they can use. That was the original intent of the ACA's Medicaid expansion. But I don't see anyway it is not going to cost the middle class a bunch, and an honest candidate would say so.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:37 PM

6. Unions have won health insurance benefits for their members that have employers

 

paying for at least part of the worker's insurance policy. Employers will have to give this money to employers rather than keep the Union earned benefits for themselves.
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Response to sagesnow (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:45 PM

7. A few maybe. There are only 14.5 M union members. 40% who are government workers won't get a raise.

 

The others might get a small raise, but likely less generous health insurance.
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:45 PM

10. I don't know who has the best plan, or better yet.. the one that will win the votes of

 

the dumb americans...

That said, a couple questions--

--If employers start paying their share of current ins premiums to a M4A gov pool, there is no 'tax,' or at least nothing above what they are paying now.. That's simplified, I know....

--"we need to get everyone covered with insurance they can use.." I'm not sure of your meaning...
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Response to pangaia (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:02 PM

11. I meant insurance with low deductibles and copays. Employers cover about half our population,

 

so what about other people and the out-of-pocket costs that most people have now. Sanders and Warren are promising to pick that up, provide dental (another couple thousand a year for everyone), vision, etc. It's a pipe-dream, and they know it.
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Response to sagesnow (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:45 PM

8. If you don't fight for it you won't get it. Look at everything the Republicans have accomplished.

 

If those fuckers can get what they want we can too.
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Response to sagesnow (Original post)

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:16 PM

12. Reminds me of utopia a little. Nt

 

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