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I am really warming up to a Biden-Warren ticket.
I think Joe can be a significant transitional President....leading us out of a very dark moment in US History. Repair of US relations will be tantamount and I think Biden can focus and quickly rebuild the bridges to our Allies that Trump has actively tried to destroy.
Sen. Warren brings gender balance to the ticket and should be given a huge domestic portfolio to work with Congress to get economic and social reform that we sorely need.
If, in 4 years, this ticket has proven successful, Joe can honorably retire and let Warren get a shot at the Presidency in 2024.
My big concern....is there enough chemistry between them to make this work?

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

SterlingPound
(428 posts)and it will be t he same old issue of being too old in 4 years

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)I can't see age being an issue for her

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(28,732 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Septuagenarian crowd game. We all make extravagant claims I suppose about our candidates,
though us stodgy liberal-moderates seem less Starry-eyed to me than progressives. He inspires me more and is more qualified in my mind so her so-called relative youthfulness does not impress.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(28,732 posts)That's not an "extravagent claim", It's a fact.
Have a good one.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Whatever.
She looks like the older lady that she is but he looks good to you?
Are you kidding me?
Most ridiculous and sexist thing Ive read in a while.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)and woman they both are.
The implication that she doesnt look like a Septuagenarian is what I responded to. She doesno shame in that. It is really no compliment to say older people look young as there is nothing wrong with their looking their age.
Aging is not an illness in either gender. It seems we tend to more often go on about women looking younger than they are. Maybe that was the sexist (And ageist) commentno particular virtue in looking younger and no shame in looking ones age either. Comparing two older people to each other as to how they look is ridiculous.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(11,991 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(28,732 posts)Eight years older than Warren.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(291,768 posts)77 November 20th.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(113,037 posts)Quite a lot of presidents haven't even liked their vice-presidents. I'd be fine with that ticket but the question some voters might have, though, is whether an older president shouldn't have a much younger vice-president. Choosing a young female running mate didn't help McCain any, but Palin was nuts and stupid, which negated any advantage her youth or gender might have offered.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Reagan and Bush One were rivals and did not particularly like each other, but joined up to unite their two bases. They held the White House for 12 years. The Dems need to do the same. The book "Team Of Rivals" shows how Lincoln brought his competitors into his Cabinet. One way to win is to join up with your rivals within your own Party. Biden/Warren might make some sense.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
42bambi
(1,753 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)I think we need a full-time President of international relations doing damage control. Do we both Executive's with these skill sets? Rice at SecState....Yes! Warren on Domestic Policy makes a lotta sense to me.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(40,875 posts)Biden is very risk-adverse, so might be a bridge too far
but I think she would be a great VP!!

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WheelWalker
(8,899 posts)I've been predicting Susan Rice will be his choice for months now.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(40,875 posts)the other 2 I would guess would be favourites (this assumes it is Biden at the top of the ticket, btw)
would be Harris (not sure, a she puts less states into sure play than Abrams)
and my dark horse for ages (even before Abrams, as he said no to running before Abrams)
Deval Patrick ....a huge favourite of Obama (he wanted him to run for POTUS in the past) a PoC, not subject to misogyny like the other 3 of our choices, and also very close to Biden in philosophical outlook and economics
Rice is a good guess, as long s Biden doesn't give a rat's arse about the Benghazi rot
and then, my choice for POTUS, Pete (again, not sure if risk-adverse Biden will roll the dice, unfortunately, due to homophobia, especially amongst my fellow PoC, although if any candidate can help him overcome that, it is Biden)
all 5 would be superb VP's

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)I like Susan Rice, but I think that she is too much an insider that is an unknown outside the Beltway and the Political Class. Sure, Democratic Political Junkies know who she is, but the Country at Large has no idea. We need to chose someone who is more visible- Warren, Harris, Klobuchar, etc. Someone already on the Media map...

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)That is supposedly a nicer version of America First, anti-trade, etc.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(47,786 posts)guaranteed to win anyway, and increase the popular vote slightly there, though at risk of losing the electoral college.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)That is part of what the Working Class people voted for in 2016 and why we got Trump. Out of work auto workers and people living in the Rust Belt WANT "Economic Patriotism". It might be bad policy, but it is a political winner in the Mid West and why Trump won...
No reason why we should not steal the issue back from Trump, who lied to all of those workers and gave the Billionaires tax cuts instead...Many of those people are smart enough to be angry at Trump, and might be looking for a Democrat that they can vote for...

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)wars and tension.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)She knows all about the crimes of the Organized Crime Party and she would do the necessary to expose and prosecute.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(47,786 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CurtEastPoint
(18,296 posts)That position sadly creates an instant suckhole of ethics problems.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)personality.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(99,929 posts)before Congress probably was the start. I think they respect each other, but their policies are not aligned.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(47,786 posts)Despite which Biden has always treated her well, IMO. And I believe that he did secure the votes needed to create CFPB. It needed a few Republican votes, two of which were senators he'd earlier talked into voting for the stimulus.
I'd prefer not to have them on the same ticket. Biden needs a younger running mate, and one who hasn't gone so far left and attacked him so much.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Obamas VP.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,477 posts)But the one time he did speak to the subject he said he would want someone to be on the same page so they could work in a hand-in-glove manner, doubling the effectiveness of policy and approach. The way in which Joe Biden worked with President Obama, amplifying and working to realize Obama's policy decisions.
I just don't see Elizabeth Warren comfortable in a role where she'd need to take Biden's vision and run with it as her own. Could be wrong but I'd think it would be a very prickly relationship.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Just to see that cringe-worthy debate moment between the two of them when he said he helped her get the votes should be enough to illustrate why this odd couple would never, ever work.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,149 posts)

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)Who might be a good fit, with this scenario in mind, in 2024? Warren-O'Rourke? Warren-Buttigieg? Warren-???
On edit: meant to respond to poster 6.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,837 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mahina
(17,110 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,837 posts)subsequent elections to concentrate on voter registration and turnout work, leaves her free to join Biden. She would be an excellent counterweight to the age issue, and would add that spark of vitality progressives would want from a ticket.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)if you are a fan of one - putting the other one on the same ticket cancels out your favorite's strengths, in my view

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)He will stand up to Putin's plan to destabilize Europe and emerging economies in Africa and Asia. That's going to be a fulltime job. I'd love to see him hand domestic policies over to Warren and let her work with the House to deliver meaning domestic policy and reform.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(112,385 posts)run. Well see in a few months. I think many of his current supporters wont be happy if he became the nominee and tapped her for VP since they have been increasing the targeting of Warren with smears the last few months.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)last sentence. And Biden supporters here might also pay heed to that.
Besides, if she is not the Dem candidate, Elizabeth Warren would serve us all much better either by remaining in the US Senate or, in the event of the Dem candidate's victory, a Cabinet post.
But I'm not sure that Biden, if he were President, would appoint her to his Cabinet.
There is some bitter history there and it is in part because of that history, where Elizabeth had the right of it, IMO, that I support her over him now.
*****
I also have a LONG and still functioning memory. Joe has, after all, thrown his hat into the Presidential primaries three times: 1988, 2008 and 2020.
there are lots of reasons why his 1988 and 2008 campaigns foundered - not simply because other candidates were stronger - and you can bet that the GOP will resurrect every single possible smear and TP from those as well as adding new ones for the GE. We've also yet to see how the primaries will ultimately play out for 2020.
Yes, Biden is leading most polls right now. But he's not really breaking out while Warren is slowly but steadily trending upwards, even among some of Biden's core voter groups.
Despite the efforts of some (even Dems, sorry to say, whose newest TP seems to be that she hasn't been a lifelong Dem), Warren doesn't have anywhere near the same political baggage that Biden does.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(43,538 posts)I would also note that a handful of Warren supporters have been more than happy to smear and go scorched earth on Biden by insinuating hes brain damaged, a serial molester, a racist, and so on.
But like I say Biden and Warren could easily work together, just as Obama and Clinton built a strong working relationship.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(112,385 posts)What a shame.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(43,538 posts)supporter, as it was counter to what the Warren campaign was saying/doing.
Things move so fast around here, very hard to remember every thread we read.
I am deciding between Warren Biden Buttigieg FWIW. So I am very interested about what gets said about those candidates.
Appreciate the reply as always.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(112,385 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,043 posts)
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)I want a President that will restore our stratgic interests in Europe and SE Asia. Bernie is all about the US economy...and I prefer Sen. Warren in focusing on domestic economic policies. Bernie ain't built for international relations...he's all about the domestic policies.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,542 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,138 posts)NOT a good combination. I'd rather keep Warren as an effective senator than see her muzzled as Biden's VP. Their views are too divergent and in deference to the office, she would be expected to support Biden's positions. If she's not the president, I'd rather see her as a Congressional voice that speaks truth to the president. Most especially if that president is Biden.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)I believe that to make a Biden/ Warren ticket to work, there has to be a clear delineation on each person's priorities. Biden has to focus on exterior US interests and the next VP has to have clear control over the direction of US domestic/economic policies.
If Biden-Warren could reach a deal with these "must haves" on both parties...it could work awesomely.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,138 posts)IF they reached a deal... but I just can't see it. They are at polar opposite ends of the party, with very different views, especially on the role of government to regulate finance.
It would be a fragile alliance at best.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)For this reason- the Democratic Party is divided between the Centrists (Hillary, Biden, etc.) and the Left Progressives (Sanders, Warren). The two wings need to be united. Naming Warren VP would mollify the Progressives in the Party, and would join them to the Centrists.
In the General election, Biden would get the White Working Class voters that we need to win the Midwest. Warren could bring in the Bernie supporters and the energy of the younger Progressives. This is especially true if Warren and the Progressives are promised some things- including Biden retiring after four years and letting Warren run for the Presidency next election cycle.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)Biden has to focus outwardly....and there he can make a difference. But he needs to let go of domestic policy and allow others to contribute in very meaningful ways.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)to the left of Biden.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)But she is still more Centrist than Warren or Sanders. It is a spectrum, not just one or another.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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sagesnow
(2,799 posts)Does anyone else have trouble following his train of thought? Just heard him at the LnJ Dinner in Des Moines and he seemed to have trouble getting his speech out. He should have used a podium and a written speech like Bernie.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)He is smart enough to know that he doesn't have all the answwrs....just like Obama. But they did know where to find the best advice.
Trump relies on his gut....and the Putin Loan Portfolio that helps him decide US foreign policy.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
milestogo
(16,827 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hekate
(88,052 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)either. For many of the same reasons that the first wouldn't.
But also principally because, IMO, a good VP pick should be someone in the younger generation who would complement, yet still challenge, her ideas.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
milestogo
(16,827 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)the Dem candidate ... and lthen et her choose.
She knows what she's doing.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
chillfactor
(7,534 posts)or Biden and Buttigieg.....If a woman is essential on the ticket ..best woman Amy Klobuchar IMO.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)I actually believe Joe Biden will not pick another one of the Democratic candidates as his running mate. We shall see.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)Warren's seat is safe. She balances the ticket perfectly.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
andym
(5,376 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:37 AM - Edit history (1)
And if Biden wins-- choosing Warren would a smart choice to shore up support on the more liberal side of the party. Moreover, Warren might do it because she knows her hero Teddy Roosevelt became President after being Vice President.
In fact, Teddy Roosevelt might never have become President if not for the tragedy that befell McKinley, because the GOP power brokers of that time thought he was too radical. They actually made him VP to get him out of the way in NY.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
eilen
(4,950 posts)among the Senate and sensitive to the needs of both our urban and rural communities but are not calling for major revolution, but pragmatic sensible approaches to our problems and cleaning up the giant mess created by Trump et al -- I think Cory Booker would be a good choice and/or Amy Klobuchar is an incredibly hard worker and down to earth.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,110 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)'Cuz I think Biden/Warren will get pretty much all Democratic votes...except maybe the Gabbard / Only Sanders factions. Just like Nader begat Bush.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,110 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)Hint: She does not influence black voter intents nearly as well as Joe does.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,110 posts)Oh theres a button for that.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)I think Harris may be focusing on Iowa and South Carolina to make her stand. Word is she is pulling resources from New Hampshire, maybe to focus on the South? She is smart and tough, I will give her that... So, maybe Harris for VP?

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mahina
(17,110 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
No Vested Interest
(5,134 posts)Amy K. has the amiable Midwest style that Biden may need.
She would not overwhelm the Biden style in the way Warren might.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)But, other than gender balance and a Biden approach to domestic policy, what does Amy offer?
Love to see her as Head of Department Homeland Security or. maybe Department of Human Services. (Are they both DHS?)

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
No Vested Interest
(5,134 posts)She says she has never lost an election.
I don't know her age, but younger than Biden & Warren.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
helpisontheway
(4,982 posts)on the same page on many issues. Meanwhile, Warren is off on some island with Bernie. Biden would not choose either one of them.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Amy Klobuchar might be too Centrist for the ticket. I think the point is to have Biden bring in the Centrists and the White Working Class voters in the Rust Belt. Then we need someone to bring in the younger progressives. Warren would bring in the more Leftist Progressives/Sanders voters, and youth.
My point is that Klobuchar is just another younger version of Joe Biden. They are both pragmatic Centrists. We do not need a younger Joe Biden clone. We need to unite the Centrist and the Progressive wings of the Democratic Party on the same ticket. Balance the centrists and the progressives.
If Biden (centrist) is the nominee for President, we need to balance the ticket with a Progressive for VP. Warren (progressive) fits the bill. Klobuchar (centrist) is kind of a redundant choice, and is playing it far too safe. We need to appeal to centrist voters and also mobilize progressives to vote. Warren can do this. Klobuchar not so much.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Part of the point of the VP is to bring in voters that the Presidential Candidate might not bring in. Klobuchar and Biden are both pragmatic centrists. They are too much the same. They need to be different from one another. The ticket needs to be diverse, not a clone of each other.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(31,400 posts)I like Tammy Duckworth, shed line up the military voters and vets
I really like Susan Rice, but I think she would be seen as an unknown...

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
exboyfil
(17,803 posts)Abrams over either one of them if Biden is the nominee.
I would like to see how Abrams polls in the three battleground states. In fact if this is the plan, she should be spending time in all three of these states as part of her voter registration drive.
Democrats with military experience haven't seemed to bring out the military and vet vote recently. I am not sure about the reasons.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BluesRunTheGame
(1,456 posts)Like thatll ever fucking happen!
The job of establishment politicians like Joe Biden, is to protect his wealthy corporate donors from anyone whos interested in in improving things for the rest of us,
Biden will not choose anyone to the left of him. Biden will not choose anyone more exciting or interesting than him. Bet on it!
Were talking NAFTA Joe. Were talking credit card Joe.
Biden and the rest of the establishment Dems (and their corporate supporters) ,if they could, would bury Elizabeth, Bernie, and AOC in the deepest fucking hole they could dig.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)Thanks for posting!
On edit. Please read my OP again and then respond in a "non-kneejerk" reaction for your primary favorite. I kind of like EW over the long haul...

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BluesRunTheGame
(1,456 posts)Biden will choose someone at least a decade younger than himself.
Biden will not choose someone to his left.
Biden will not choose someone more interesting or exciting than himself.
Biden is himself, not very interesting or exciting.
Biden has a long history of association with wealthy and powerful interests. (despite the folksy image he likes to project).
I base my opinions on my observations of the behavior of moderates in Democratic Party politics over the last few decades and of the record of Joe Biden over that same timeframe.
Thank you.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)But Biden/Warren grings 50% of Democrats together. I kind of like the ticket the way I laid it out. Sen. Warren has no creds on the International Stage and that is job#1 for the next POTUS> Sorry, Sen. Warren makes her case on domestic issues. Neither Bernie nor Elizabeth can fill Joe Biden's Presidential creds on the world stage.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)sleep with the Econ lectures. Each to their own. His Iowa speech hit it outta the park. Found his Central American oped very interesting and his books too...Moved me in his speech on grief. I never tear up, when I hear her extole the virtues of M4All and cast down to perdition Wall St. banks.
Just me.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(31,400 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(88,052 posts)...corporate donors, BluesRunTheGame.
Rethink that, if you will.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,354 posts)Then we can argue all we want about what we will do next.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,793 posts)This is why I cant stand Bernies campaign.
Just a bunch of ten second sound bytes attacking Democrats and the party that get repeated by people who can do no better than stoop to childish name calling. Bernie has divided us in irreconcilable ways with his phony baloney fake revolution always gunning in the wrong direction.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(88,052 posts)

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gibraltar72
(7,385 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(21,714 posts)But there has to be a division of responsibilities...one looking inward, one looking outward.
If you think domestic policies trump internationsl, go Warren/Biden. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, though. We need a President with proven gravitas with our Allies. That is the #1 issue. Let Warren run our domestic agenda.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)and experienced than he with a bad attitude to him.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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randr
(12,354 posts)Is a losing ticket.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)It is not the age of the candidates that matters; it is the age of the people who will vote for them. Joe leads with older, more centrist Dems, whereas Warren appeals more to younger progressives. We need to combine the two factions together to provide a large Democratic voter turnout.
Joe will bring in the moderates, the centrists, and the independents. Warren will bring in the younger, more left, more progressive voters. Putting two centrists on the same ticket does not accomplish this. We need to appeal to both wings of the Party to win, I think.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mme. Defarge
(7,877 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive2020
(713 posts)Klobuchar is too much a centrist, pragmatic, moderate. She is too much like Joe. She and Joe appeal to the same kind of voters, and leave the progressives without someone to vote for.
Biden's VP should be someone who can appeal to voters that he otherwise might not get. Warren is perfect for this, as she appeals mainly to the younger, more left, more progressive wing of the Party.
Klobuchar does not bring in anyone that Joe would not get anyway. We need to diversify the ticket, not place two pragmatic centrists on it. They are too much the same to each other.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
No Vested Interest
(5,134 posts)I personally like Warren, but not as a Democratic presidential candidate.
To Dems, particularly those as committed as DUers, Warren is perfectly acceptable.
I believe she would be too easily labeled a socialist, particularly with Medicare for All plan.
(I consider Medicare for All a long-range goal, not a near-term possibility.)
A President and Vice President have to be simpatico - as Obama and Biden were.
Trying to make the Dem. ticket diverse, thinking it will pull in diverse voters, does not work.
People don't really seriously consider the V.P. choice when voting.
A good V.P. is more of a bonus than a necessity.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
whathehell
(28,732 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(31,400 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,266 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Biden if the candidate will not pick someone who does not help in the electoral college. He will not pick someone who doesn't agree with him on his top policies. He will not pick someone over 70.
I do think he will pick a female and it will be someone from a state that will help in the Electoral college, or someone from a purple state.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,730 posts)Absolutely.
There will be a woman in the white house in some high capacity in 2021.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pinkstarburst
(1,197 posts)They aren't getting married. They are professionals and if Biden gets the nomination and Warren is close behind him in delegates, IMHO, he would be foolish to pass her up in favor of a different VP pick.
Listening to the voters matters. When voters feel their vote doesn't count, or they feel disconnected from the ticket, it leads to low turnout.
Look at what happened in 2016. Sanders and Clinton were close. Lots of things happened in 2016 that were not Clinton's fault, and I won't go into, but IMHO, when Sanders did that well in the primary and had so much grassroots support, picking Kaine was a mistake and gained her nothing. It lost her the support of some on the progressive side of the party. It lost her the support of some who stayed home.
If Biden gets the nomination and is smart, he isn't going to pick someone just because he's "simpatico" with them or whatever he said in that interview. He's not going to pick another moderate. He's going to pick someone who will unite the ticket and give the best chance of getting the vote out. There are some people who are excited about the idea of Biden. But there is the other side of the party that is excited about a Warren/Sanders type candidate. We need to make sure those people still have a reason to get out and vote in the general.

primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lettucebe
(2,313 posts)Warren is not going to play second-fiddle to Biden. At least that's my thinking. Never know what might happen, but I'm going with a huge no.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)(CNN)Joe Biden slammed Elizabeth Warren as out of touch after she accused him of running in the "wrong presidential primary," writing in a Medium post on Tuesday that such attacks are "condescending to the millions of Democrats who have a different view."
"It's representative of an elitism that working and middle class people do not share: 'We know best; you know nothing'. 'If you were only as smart as I am you would agree with me," Biden wrote.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/biden-medium-post-warren-wrong-presidential-primary/index.html

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden