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Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:53 AM Nov 2019

Even though I am for Warren, my gut feeling is that Biden will take the nomination


I still base it on who people think is safest to run against Trump and when people get in the voting booth they won't be making a quick decision this time. A lot will be going through Democratic voters minds because Trump is so horrifying he absolutely has to be taken out and people will be thinking very carefully about who would match up with him the best especially on the debate stage and who has the experience on the National stage to go head to head with the nut case. Even though I like Warren's policies and I think she is a good debater I see Biden as the best match-up against Trump in a debate. (I could be wrong) Biden is extremely talented at debating and I think he would have the right charisma and toughness to go after someone as gruff and brutal as Trump effectively. I would say Warren is not far behind as she can come up with some super quick knockout blows. Not sure I see Pete Buttigieg's low key style being very effective against Trump? Hard to say as his professionalism might make Trump look foolish? Just not sure I am willing to take that chance. I could be wrong but think Sanders is going to struggle with Warren in so I think it will come down to Biden, Warren and Pete with Biden ultimately taking the nomination. I will work my ass off for any of the Dems! Love them all!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Even though I am for Warren, my gut feeling is that Biden will take the nomination (Original Post) Quixote1818 Nov 2019 OP
Warren might have painted herself into a corner R B Garr Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2019 #2
In my estimation Joe Biden is the perfect foil to Donald J Trump. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #3
+1000 Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #4
What you said here is spot on Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #5
I remember that debate very well DrToast Nov 2019 #13
Agree flamingdem Nov 2019 #20
So, Long As It Is Not the Anti-Immigration, Pro-Russia Duo of Sanders/Gabbard TomCADem Nov 2019 #6
Biden will be fully inoculated from Trump's sleazy attacks after these impeachment hearings sop Nov 2019 #7
The NH poll today... boomer_wv Nov 2019 #8
This sort of thing is why I may switch to Biden. Who does best against Trump is the most important Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #9
You may be right. BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #10
I'm for Any One Of Our People but it also seems it's Biden's race to lose. NCLefty Nov 2019 #11
Your remark gives me a sinking feeling yellowwoodII Nov 2019 #12
Yeah, sorry, but the hearings aren't going well for Trump and the GOP BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #15
Bush Jr ran for president based on his connections. R B Garr Nov 2019 #16
Here's where I'm at BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #14
Joe's debate game is kind of weak. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #17
So I hear every time from those who don't like or support him. Honestly, I doubt many care about the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #18
Biden is the favorite. He should be. BlueWI Nov 2019 #19
Love all but one. we can do it Nov 2019 #21
The only gut feeling I have is; Biden will go down early in the Primaries DCofVA Nov 2019 #22
 

R B Garr

(16,919 posts)
1. Warren might have painted herself into a corner
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:08 AM
Nov 2019

by adopting Bernie’s Medicare for All, which is an absolute disaster.

I think you’re right about Biden. He has the experience and that is going to account for a lot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

 

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
3. In my estimation Joe Biden is the perfect foil to Donald J Trump.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:13 AM
Nov 2019

Like he is custom-made to end our national nightmare.

Trump can't pull his antics on Biden. For whatever reason, they just don't work on him.

The insults, the name calling, the belittling that make decent people ashamed daily that we have such a vile character in office, somehow seem to work for Trump when he attacks others for far too many people.

I haven't seen Trump put a nick on Biden, who seems to scare Trump to death. He knows Biden will beat him like a drum. This whole impeachment is evidence of how far Trump is willing to go to avoid facing him.

And Biden's warm and good character present the strongest possible contrast from Trump. Joe makes people feel safe and feel respected. Decency will win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
5. What you said here is spot on
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:23 AM
Nov 2019

>>And Biden's warm and good character present the strongest possible contrast from Trump. Joe makes people feel safe and feel respected. Decency will win.


Yes, Biden is very warm. I remember him debating Sarah Palin and he would get this big smile and he was super respectful and friendly. He had to be careful on how he debated her and he seemed to thread the needle perfectly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
13. I remember that debate very well
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:32 PM
Nov 2019

There was a lot of talk that Biden was going to say something inappropriate or Palin would irritate him, but it was smooth sailing the whole way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,378 posts)
6. So, Long As It Is Not the Anti-Immigration, Pro-Russia Duo of Sanders/Gabbard
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:49 AM
Nov 2019

I am pretty happy with the Democratic nominee. I like Biden. I have bought all of Warren's books. I know there have some pretty big policy difference, but at least they did not make a name for themselves by attacking and throwing Democrats under the bus from the "left."

I am sure that Gabbard has a future as Fox News commentator to throw bombs at Democrats from the "left." At this point, I think it is far more likely that she is a speaker at the RNC, then the DNC.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sop

(9,943 posts)
7. Biden will be fully inoculated from Trump's sleazy attacks after these impeachment hearings
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:52 AM
Nov 2019

If these impeachment hearings accomplish only one thing, it will be to clear Joe Biden. Schiff and other Democrats are going out of their way with each witness, driving home the fact all of this Trump Ukraine BS is a fantasy. And knowing how doggedly Trump clings to his loony CTs, he'll spend the entire campaign endlessly rehashing it, making him appear even more deranged than usual.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

boomer_wv

(673 posts)
8. The NH poll today...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:09 AM
Nov 2019

showed Warren in virtual dead heat with Trump there while Biden was ahead by 8.

NH is a light blue state, but still pretty swingy. We constantly see Biden doing very well in hypothetical matchups against Trump in swing states. He's the best shot we have to end this nightmare.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
9. This sort of thing is why I may switch to Biden. Who does best against Trump is the most important
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:53 AM
Nov 2019

thing for me. Period!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueMTexpat

(15,348 posts)
10. You may be right.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:48 AM
Nov 2019

But I am not at all sure about that.

In any event, I go on record for the umpteenth time to say that I will support and vote for whichever candidate is ultimately the Dem nominee.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
11. I'm for Any One Of Our People but it also seems it's Biden's race to lose.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:45 AM
Nov 2019

We shall see! :p

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yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
12. Your remark gives me a sinking feeling
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:18 PM
Nov 2019

Biden has been damaged by all of this hearing commotion. I know it's what Trump wants and we want to oppose Trump, but this job of Hunter's is not going to go away. It appears evident that Hunter was hired for his 'connection." We will hear more of it if Biden is the candidate.

Don't get me wrong. I'll vote for whoever the Democratic is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,161 posts)
15. Yeah, sorry, but the hearings aren't going well for Trump and the GOP
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:03 PM
Nov 2019

Your fears or concern or whatever, not withstanding. You're also amplifying GOP talking points on a Democratic forum so I'm not sure what the point of that is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,919 posts)
16. Bush Jr ran for president based on his connections.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:28 PM
Nov 2019

He stole an election, worked in the oil industry before that, all courtesy of daddy. Not to mention the Trump children and their grifting and working in the White House without clearances. I realize they have different standards, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BannonsLiver

(16,161 posts)
14. Here's where I'm at
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 06:01 PM
Nov 2019

We've seen breathless prognostications of Biden's assured, impending doom for what, 7 months now, and here he is, still ahead.

I suspect the race at this point is locked in until we get into the run up to Iowa in January. The holidays are coming up and people will not be paying as much attention to the race.

Additionally, we have impeachment hearings going on that are sucking up whatever bandwidth and oxygen that's out there. Hell, I forgot there was a debate tonight because I've been so into the hearings. So yeah, Biden is not assured of the nomination by any stretch, but I haven't seen anyone or anything that is happening now or likely to happen as we get into December that is going to shake things up in a meaningful way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
17. Joe's debate game is kind of weak.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 09:53 PM
Nov 2019

Even when fellow Democrats confronted some of his past record, he had a difficult time responding in real time.
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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
18. So I hear every time from those who don't like or support him. Honestly, I doubt many care about the
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 12:06 AM
Nov 2019

debates...and this many folks with so little time...really worthless.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BlueWI

(1,736 posts)
19. Biden is the favorite. He should be.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 12:56 PM
Nov 2019

Based on his lengthy political experience and prominence to start the campaign, the race is his to win or lose.

I just don't want to see a repeat of 2016, when too many assumptions about the strength of the nominee, the will of the voters, and the validity of the process were proven wrong. Some of those concerns are still relevant today.

Not to mention the inherent difficulty of passing legislation that moves the needle on impending crises.

Biden is and should be the favorite. But no votes have been cast. And complacency is not our friend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DCofVA

(714 posts)
22. The only gut feeling I have is; Biden will go down early in the Primaries
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 09:00 PM
Nov 2019

As far as who will be the nominee… there are still so many unknow factors, I just don’t know. I only know who I would like to be the nominee and, she’s got a pretty good chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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