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Even after Kamala Harris suspended her campaign Justice Democrats is attacking her..... (Original Post) George II Dec 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2019 #1
Aren't "Justice Democrats" Sanders crew? Renew Deal Dec 2019 #7
The founders were all Sanders staffers and they're a PAC acting on his behalf. George II Dec 2019 #8
They also accept Republican money so it is pretty funny to hear them say this...irony meed irony. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #11
What does Tom Perez have to do with Justice Democrats attacking Kamala Harris? George II Dec 2019 #12
He's the new scapegoat, the new Debbie Wasserman Schultz treestar Dec 2019 #41
Do you even know who Perez is? What a strange response. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2019 #16
LOL BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #17
+++ still_one Dec 2019 #26
And what does Perez have to do with Just Us Democrats? Gothmog Dec 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2019 #18
And that has fuck all to do with this particular situation. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #20
Kamala Harris was qualified for the December debate, so that's a moot point. George II Dec 2019 #29
for heaven's sake treestar Dec 2019 #42
So who are you? INdemo Dec 2019 #19
... BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #21
Should have opted for a more media savvy person to Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 #22
Justice Democrats was created by Cenk and some sanders staffers Gothmog Dec 2019 #30
Tom Perez is very well regarded by professionals, Demo, Hortensis Dec 2019 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2019 #40
Not debate schedules again! treestar Dec 2019 #43
Who even knows what "online small-dollar armies" really R B Garr Dec 2019 #2
Same with "ideologically motivated." The Valley Below Dec 2019 #6
Exactly. I wish we could translate what those terms R B Garr Dec 2019 #10
"extremely online" billpolonsky Dec 2019 #3
The thing is they're not all "small dollar contributors". The most blatant example is this one: George II Dec 2019 #4
Great minds.. I did not see your op up, and posted something along the same vein Peacetrain Dec 2019 #5
These groups are not interested in cohesiveness peggysue2 Dec 2019 #24
Amen to that!! Peacetrain Dec 2019 #25
Fuck them. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #9
Absolutely!!! still_one Dec 2019 #27
Agreed Gothmog Dec 2019 #32
+1!!! Cha Dec 2019 #39
Their implicit argument being that money, not revolutions, make a campaign. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #13
Justice Democrats, and their fellow organization, Brand New Congress, were the epitome of... George II Dec 2019 #15
Saikat Chakrabarti, the guy who wears a t shirt emblazoned with the image of Hitler's ally The Valley Below Dec 2019 #23
Yes, Subhas Chandra Bose led a band of Indians who killed a number of AMERICANS in WWII. George II Dec 2019 #33
Killed Americans while Subhas Chandra Bose lived in Nazi Germany and actively supported Hitler. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #34
Another uppity woman who must be attacked regardless mcar Dec 2019 #28
Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" are despicable... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #35
And now Jacobin is going after Amy Klobuchar! George II Dec 2019 #36
The entire far left crews are only getting warmed up, it is only going to get far worse the Celerity Dec 2019 #38

Response to George II (Original post)

 

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
7. Aren't "Justice Democrats" Sanders crew?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:01 PM
Dec 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. The founders were all Sanders staffers and they're a PAC acting on his behalf.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:06 PM
Dec 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
11. They also accept Republican money so it is pretty funny to hear them say this...irony meed irony.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:12 PM
Dec 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. What does Tom Perez have to do with Justice Democrats attacking Kamala Harris?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:13 PM
Dec 2019
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. He's the new scapegoat, the new Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:28 PM
Dec 2019

When my candidate doesn't win, it simply has to be that the DNC helped the others! The rules aren't fair! Yadda, daddada, yabba, dabba do!

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BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
14. Do you even know who Perez is? What a strange response.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:23 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided

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BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
17. LOL
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:20 PM
Dec 2019

I’m well aware. What I’m still not clear on is what the ever loving fuck he has to do with your bizarre response.

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Gothmog

(145,124 posts)
31. And what does Perez have to do with Just Us Democrats?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:02 PM
Dec 2019
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BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
20. And that has fuck all to do with this particular situation.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:27 PM
Dec 2019

When making comments in public forums I find clarity is a good thing. Give it a whirl next time.

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George II

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29. Kamala Harris was qualified for the December debate, so that's a moot point.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:59 PM
Dec 2019
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
42. for heaven's sake
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:29 PM
Dec 2019

what rules caused Harris not to be the winner?

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Should have opted for a more media savvy person to
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

begin with. A person who would have gotten financing for generic ads. Trump malfeasance a gold mine untapped.

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Gothmog

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30. Justice Democrats was created by Cenk and some sanders staffers
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:01 PM
Dec 2019

How is Perez responsible?

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Hortensis

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37. Tom Perez is very well regarded by professionals, Demo,
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:20 PM
Dec 2019

who know him well. If you want to attack the party leadership, oh well, but let's at least admit that it was CNN, MSNBC etc who didn't do the debates the way you want. Perhaps you don't know, but candidates themselves want phony commercial "debates" and got rid of the kind of real ones the League of Women Voters put on. Safer, a lot more room to waffle instead of giving real answers and more opportunity for posturing and attacks.

Justice Democrats are playing their usual hostile anti-Democratic role, no doubt have attacks already designed and written up they hate to waste.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. Not debate schedules again!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:30 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
2. Who even knows what "online small-dollar armies" really
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

means. That could mean lots of things...

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The Valley Below

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6. Same with "ideologically motivated."
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:00 PM
Dec 2019
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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
10. Exactly. I wish we could translate what those terms
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:10 PM
Dec 2019

really mean, and all of it would be taken from actual and current news.

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billpolonsky

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3. "extremely online"
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:25 PM
Dec 2019

That's just poor grammar...

I think what they are trying to say is that Sander's and Warren's online, small dollar contributors have kept their coffers full.

"ideologically motivated" is redundant considering all contributors have a political bias and by the choice of words is telling.



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George II

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4. The thing is they're not all "small dollar contributors". The most blatant example is this one:
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:54 PM
Dec 2019

A contributor has given an average of more than ELEVEN TIMES A DAY from the day Sanders' campaign began until the end of June, and has given a total of $2,821 (OVER the limit!) That's a "small dollar contributor"?

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Peacetrain

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5. Great minds.. I did not see your op up, and posted something along the same vein
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:57 PM
Dec 2019

about people still going after her and she has dropped out... Makes no sense , and does not bring one iota of cohesiveness to our party

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peggysue2

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24. These groups are not interested in cohesiveness
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:51 PM
Dec 2019

They're also not interested in the Democratic Party, having time and again equated Dems with Repubs.

This particular tweet says more about them than Kamala Harris. Vultures gotta vulture.

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TidalWave46

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9. Fuck them.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:08 PM
Dec 2019

Extremely shady group.

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Gothmog

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32. Agreed
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

Just Us Democrats are a very shady group

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LanternWaste

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13. Their implicit argument being that money, not revolutions, make a campaign.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:19 PM
Dec 2019

There's a special irony in that... these being the front-line guys who, like the sans-culottes, argue revolution over evolution.

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George II

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15. Justice Democrats, and their fellow organization, Brand New Congress, were the epitome of...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:31 PM
Dec 2019

...."dark money". Their founder, Saikat Chakrabarti, also founded an LLC located outside DC, where a lot of the money of the first two was being funneled, about $1 million worth (it seems to have stopped since being exposed in the press). LLC's don't have to report the sources of their money or even do full financial disclosures.

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The Valley Below

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23. Saikat Chakrabarti, the guy who wears a t shirt emblazoned with the image of Hitler's ally
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:39 PM
Dec 2019

Subhas Chandra Bose?

Really? A Nazi collaborator?

Something stinks.


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George II

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33. Yes, Subhas Chandra Bose led a band of Indians who killed a number of AMERICANS in WWII.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 04:56 PM
Dec 2019

He was AOC's campaign manager and her chief of staff until the heat got too high and she had to fire him.

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The Valley Below

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34. Killed Americans while Subhas Chandra Bose lived in Nazi Germany and actively supported Hitler.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:08 PM
Dec 2019

Saikat Chakrabarti wasn't only AOC's campaign manager, he's the guy who auditioned her for the job of running.

Very troubling.

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mcar

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28. Another uppity woman who must be attacked regardless
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:53 PM
Dec 2019
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NurseJackie

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35. Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" are despicable...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:11 PM
Dec 2019

Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" are despicable. Just like Cenk, they're shady and they also have the greatest contempt for the Democratic party and our elected leaders.

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George II

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36. And now Jacobin is going after Amy Klobuchar!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:16 PM
Dec 2019
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Celerity

(43,299 posts)
38. The entire far left crews are only getting warmed up, it is only going to get far worse the
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:03 PM
Dec 2019

closer we get to the actual voting. I guarantee they have a shit tonne of spun up dirt on all but Bernie in the pipeline and will drop dirty tricks on a daily basis.

I will not be shocked at all if they go full RW stylee hit job over and over and over on Biden over the plazzy Ukraine CT tosh.

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