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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:00 PM Dec 2019

I LIKE IKE!

That was, perhaps, the most effective campaign slogan of all time. Dwight David Eisenhower, a WWII general, won with that slogan. It was really simple. It was positive. It was just what the country was looking for after that war.

My parents voted for Adlai Stevenson. Twice. They were Democrats, and always voted for the Democrat. It didn't matter, people liked Ike. Eisenhower didn't have much of a personality, really. He was sort of a stolid President. He did OK in the post-war time, I suppose. He would probably be called a moderate Democrat now, I guess.

I LIKE IKE! That was his slogan. It got him elected. That, and his service as a General in the war.

Things are not as simple in 2019, are they?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I LIKE IKE! (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2019 OP
"Lets go Joe"... Peacetrain Dec 2019 #1
I like it also. riversedge Dec 2019 #26
Trump got elected with make America great...and now make america great again is his mantra...Obama Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #2
Yes We Can! Si podemos! Cha Dec 2019 #8
Yes we can of course and how about fired up an ready to go? Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #15
"Fired UP.." was Huge! Cha Dec 2019 #17
it was...sigh. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #22
No, not as simple at all. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #3
It was that simple then. Times have changed. MineralMan Dec 2019 #6
So maybe the current candidates should try for similar slogans. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #4
READY FOR BETTY? MineralMan Dec 2019 #7
The possibilities are endless! PatSeg Dec 2019 #25
Indeed they are. MineralMan Dec 2019 #27
"I'm in heat for Pete!" PatSeg Dec 2019 #9
hahaha Oh dear God!!! Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #13
Dizzy for Lizzy RobertDevereaux Dec 2019 #14
I like that one. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #16
I'm palsy for Tulsi! Anon-C Dec 2019 #28
I remember the "I Like Ike" buttons PatSeg Dec 2019 #5
Yes, I remember them, too. I was born in 1945, so his first election MineralMan Dec 2019 #11
Same here PatSeg Dec 2019 #18
Ike had a couple of things working for him that none do now...... MyOwnPeace Dec 2019 #34
I know PatSeg Dec 2019 #38
AND........ MyOwnPeace Dec 2019 #41
I was going to say that as well!! PatSeg Dec 2019 #42
"Joe Knows..." Dennis Donovan Dec 2019 #10
Do you remember in 2007-08 the PatSeg Dec 2019 #20
Everybody did like Ike. They did. I remember my parents did. PatrickforO Dec 2019 #12
Actually that is a good sentiment PatSeg Dec 2019 #23
Good point. I've thought wistfully about those days, too. But.......... PatrickforO Dec 2019 #35
Oh yes PatSeg Dec 2019 #40
OK - now I've got this ear worm in my head and I have to get it out rurallib Dec 2019 #19
That's great! I hadn't seen that for years. MineralMan Dec 2019 #21
Wow, that really is catchy! PatSeg Dec 2019 #24
Go with Joe pandr32 Dec 2019 #29
The first president I voted for was Ike. virgogal Dec 2019 #30
Wow! You've been in this longer than I have. MineralMan Dec 2019 #31
I am VERY well seasoned. virgogal Dec 2019 #32
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2019 #33
I like (Joes my man, If he can't do it no one can!) bluestarone Dec 2019 #36
Obama's "Yes We Can" in 2008 is pretty close. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #37
Yes, but I think we've moved beyond slogans and jingles in presidential MineralMan Dec 2019 #39
Yearn for Bern? n/t zackymilly Dec 2019 #43
A former neighbour of mine (now deceased) was a republican and he hated Ike Otto Lidenbrock Dec 2019 #44
I Go Joe! needledriver Dec 2019 #45
 

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
1. "Lets go Joe"...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:03 PM
Dec 2019

sounds good to me

simple and to the point

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
2. Trump got elected with make America great...and now make america great again is his mantra...Obama
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:04 PM
Dec 2019

was hope and change, McCain...the straight talk express...I think slogans still help. I couldn't think of one for Hillary and I supporter her completely?

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Cha

(297,123 posts)
8. Yes We Can! Si podemos!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:14 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
15. Yes we can of course and how about fired up an ready to go?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:23 PM
Dec 2019

God I miss Obama...

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Cha

(297,123 posts)
17. "Fired UP.." was Huge!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:25 PM
Dec 2019

me too

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. No, not as simple at all.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:05 PM
Dec 2019

It looks like Bloomberg is hoping they are: he's selling "I like Mike" tees on his campaign website. To be fair, he's got another better tee that says "In God we trust. Everyone else, bring data."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. It was that simple then. Times have changed.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:13 PM
Dec 2019

It's not simple at all now. Bloomberg's borrowing of that slogan isn't going to work. He's too late to the dance. Everyone's dance cards are already full. Which is not to say that he might not end up as the fourth candidate, come Super Tuesday. I don't know.

We're long past the point of simple slogans winning elections. That's true. But, we're sorely in need of a unifying message. Here's what I think: Today, I saw a couple of Biden Super PAC ads. Very effective, emotionally laden ads, they were, too. If more like that appear, he might just have found the formula for the 2020 election. Watch them. They've been posted here.

In a crowded primary field, Joe Biden has managed to retain the #1 position throughout the campaign. I doubt that will change. The 15% rule will see to it that he ends up with a majority of delegates to the convention, I'm pretty sure. So, I've hitched my wagon to his candidacy. I think he's the nominee, barring some unfortunate event.

But, there's not going to be a slogan like "I Like Ike" in 2020. Things are more complicated now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
4. So maybe the current candidates should try for similar slogans.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:10 PM
Dec 2019

"I yearn for Bern!"
"I go for Joe!"
"I'm gamy for Amy!"
"I'm in heat for Pete!"

Can't think of anything that rhymes with Elizabeth, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
7. READY FOR BETTY?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:14 PM
Dec 2019


Sorry, I couldn't resist.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
25. The possibilities are endless!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:46 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
27. Indeed they are.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

I hesitate to suggest some of the bawdier ones, so I won't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
9. "I'm in heat for Pete!"
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:14 PM
Dec 2019

That is hilarious! "Gamy for Amy"??? Not sure she'd like that one.

In 2016, people who wanted Joe to run came up with the slogan, "Riding with Biden". It is catchy, but it didn't really say anything. "No Malarkey" actually has some meaning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
13. hahaha Oh dear God!!!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:20 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
16. I like that one.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:24 PM
Dec 2019

bonkers for Betty?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
5. I remember the "I Like Ike" buttons
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:11 PM
Dec 2019

when I was a kid. He was such a popular person that both parties approached him to be their nominee. He didn't have a dazzling personality, but he had integrity and was quietly reassuring. People felt secure with him in the White House. He was the only president I knew as a child. It wasn't until I was an adult that I really appreciated him as a president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
11. Yes, I remember them, too. I was born in 1945, so his first election
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:16 PM
Dec 2019

didn't make much of an impact. By the next one, though, I was old enough to be fascinated by the TV coverage of the conventions and the election. That got me started on political activity. When JFK ran, I was a sophomore in high school, and volunteered to help with my local Democratic Party organization.

But, I never forgot Ike. He was a good guy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
18. Same here
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:27 PM
Dec 2019

The only reason I remember both elections and the pins was my father was a precinct captain, so politics was a big deal in our house. He stayed involved until Watergate. After that he felt betrayed. I can't recall him ever discussing politics after that. Also it didn't help that Illinois had both Democratic and republican governors go to prison. He had supported William Stratton. At the time people thought political corruption was just a Democratic thing because of the Chicago political machine. What a letdown when Dad's political heroes turned out corrupt as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
34. Ike had a couple of things working for him that none do now......
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:43 PM
Dec 2019

1. He was everybody's "grandpa." Yeah, he and Mamie had that "American Gothic" look and style, even retreating to a farm in the Gettysburg area now and then. How could you not vote for Grandpa?

2. He was a war hero, and the voting population was filled with veterans and families of veterans. He was THE man for D-day, took the responsibility and credit for it - and deservedly so!

And yes, I think he'd certainly be labeled as a "moderate Democrat" now. Need proof, look at his "Beware of the Military-Industrial Complex" speech! Go ahead, just TRY and envision those words coming out of a Republican mouth now!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
38. I know
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:13 PM
Dec 2019

I didn't hear the Military-Industrial Complex until I was an adult and it blew me away. If I had heard it as a child, it probably didn't stick.

I agree, Ike would be considered a moderate Democrat today. I'm sure he got votes from republicans and Democrats alike. The only people who seemed to hate him were John Birch Society people who accused him of being a communist. That was rich, a war hero who defeated the Nazis was really a communist!

He was the perfect candidate for the time. After the Great Depression and World War II, people were ready for a time of peace and stability, kind of a breather before the raucous sixties and Vietnam.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
41. AND........
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 04:00 PM
Dec 2019

he didn't like Nixon!

What's not to like?

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PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
42. I was going to say that as well!!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 06:28 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
10. "Joe Knows..."
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:15 PM
Dec 2019

...and fill in the blank with just about anything!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
20. Do you remember in 2007-08 the
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:28 PM
Dec 2019

"Joe's Right" tagline? Several Democratic candidates said it during debates and Joe's campaign picked up on it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
12. Everybody did like Ike. They did. I remember my parents did.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:17 PM
Dec 2019

I always was under the impression that the anti-intellectualism movement of the Republican party began with the campaign between Ike and Adlai when Richard Nixon, acting as a surrogate for Ike, called Adlai Stevenson an egghead.

Had to be Nixon, right?

But you're right, we don't have a slogan. The Republicans (Trumpists now - the old Republicans are gone) have MAGA - Make America great again. It harks back to idyllic days in white suburbia back in the fifties and early sixties, and fits on a hat. Even someone militantly proud of their own stupidity and ignorance can remember that.

What do we have? I mean slogan-wise? Should we have a slogan? How can we condense all the stuff that needs to be done?

Clean air - healthcare?

Democrats are good for the people?


I don't know. I'm not much at developing slogans. The ones above are a bit lame.

Funny (and kind of pathetic) story. My state representative is a right wing-nut, so I actively supported a Democratic candidate to take her place. I went to a gathering to pick up a yard sign. I turned it around and saw that it said,

"Make politics boring again."

Seriously.

I sighed, picked it up, and put it in my yard, knowing with SURETY that the day after the election, I would still be represented by the wing-nut.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
23. Actually that is a good sentiment
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:38 PM
Dec 2019

"Make politics boring again."

I remember when politics didn't dominate our lives 24/7. We actually could focus on other things, knowing the world wasn't going to collapse at any time. I took for granted the competence of many of our elected officials and government servants. Of course, there were scandals and corruption, but usually the system was able to deal with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
35. Good point. I've thought wistfully about those days, too. But..........
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:52 PM
Dec 2019

Consider this:

We swung too far away from being engaged with local, state and national politics, and too far toward just trusting in the competence of those representing us and hoping for the best.

I firmly believe it is our (majority of Americans) lack of engagement that created the vacuum filled by lobbies, and now super pacs. I mean, it is to the point where we can legitimately say that many of our politicians no longer represent or even care about what we think or want, but instead are beholden to these special interests because to get elected takes more and more and more money each time around.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
40. Oh yes
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

I totally agree with that and I was one who wasn't engaged in politics for many years. I started getting interested again somewhat when Clinton was elected, but I became obsessed when GW Bush was "appointed" president and have been ever since. I could take a lot breaks during the Obama years, however.

I am older and wiser now and I understand that it is vital for people to be involved in their democracy if it is to survive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
19. OK - now I've got this ear worm in my head and I have to get it out
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:28 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
21. That's great! I hadn't seen that for years.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

A simpler time. Not a better time, but simpler.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
24. Wow, that really is catchy!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:40 PM
Dec 2019

There was a similar one for JFK, no substance, but catchy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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virgogal

(10,178 posts)
30. The first president I voted for was Ike.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:08 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
31. Wow! You've been in this longer than I have.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
32. I am VERY well seasoned.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:19 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
36. I like (Joes my man, If he can't do it no one can!)
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:55 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bearsfootball516

(6,376 posts)
37. Obama's "Yes We Can" in 2008 is pretty close.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:13 PM
Dec 2019

Those might be the two most iconic campaign slogans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
39. Yes, but I think we've moved beyond slogans and jingles in presidential
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

races. So much has changed since Ike ran in 1952. Just in terms of communication, there's almost no comparison. In 1952, small town America had the daily newspaper from the county seat and a little bit of news on the radio. That was it. Now, we're bombarded around the clock with news and advertising.

Simple campaign stuff doesn't work the way it used to at all. Not in national elections, anyhow. You can still win a city council seat by knocking on every door in your district. That happened here in St. Paul this November. A young Hmong woman did exactly that, and won the seat from our ward. She literally knocked on every door in the ward, and her brothers did it again, twice. She just flat out won, in a field of six candidates. Nobody had ever heard of her before and it was her first campaign, at age 27. But that's as far as that kind of campaigning goes any more.

Slogans are good, but they're not enough. It's a different world.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
44. A former neighbour of mine (now deceased) was a republican and he hated Ike
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 06:33 PM
Dec 2019

Actually a nice guy but I remember discussing the 2000 election with him and the GOP inner battle during the primary that there was no "real conservative" running. I said how can you not think George W Bush and John McCain aren't conservative enough given how far his party moved since Ike. Then suddenly he blunted out that "Ike was a phony. He was nominated saying he would remove Truman's policies but instead he expanded them".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

needledriver

(836 posts)
45. I Go Joe!
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:10 PM
Dec 2019

Simple. Direct. Personalizes the choice.

As for "I Like Ike!" as all time best?

I dunno. "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too!" is still catchy 180 years after the campaign it was coined for - although the genocidal reference would probably not play as well in 2019.

All the way with JFK!

Nixon's the One! (Yeah, right.)

My favorite for that campaign was "Don't switch Dicks in the middle of a screw - vote for Nixon in '72!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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