Joe Biden Was Right To Call Man Who Pushed Ukraine Conspiracy A Damn Liar

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

There is a more significant point in Biden’s confrontation with a voter who pushed the Ukraine conspiracy, and that is that Joe Biden won’t allow lies to stand.
The 83-year-old voter accused Biden of setting up his son to work in a gas company in Ukraine and selling access to the presidency just like Trump.
Neither of these allegations was true, and Biden wasn’t going to stand there and make nice or offer some talking point answer to obvious lies. Sure, Biden got testy, but only after the voter also challenged his fitness for the presidency.

To read, and see more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/12/05/joe-biden-iowa-voter.html

[AtheistCrusader]

1. He should not say 'no one is saying it'.

He should say 'no one credible is saying it' or 'no one who has reviewed the facts is saying it'.

Otherwise, this was a perfect response. It's time to push back.

[UniteFightBack]

4. Yes he should of said only place you're hearing that is faux news. nt

[redqueen]

8. +1

[AtheistCrusader]

12. This would also have sufficed. Fox News, or it's affiliate; the Oval Office.

[PatSeg]

5. It was the heat of the moment

I'm sure later he thought of what he should have said, pretty much like we all do. Being it was not a scripted retort, it wasn't going to be perfect, but he got his point across and received a lot of coverage because of it. Now if there was any doubt whether Joe is tough enough to take on a bully like Trump, those doubts have been addressed.

I agree, Democrats have to push back. I love that both Pelosi and Biden pushed back on the same day!

[guillaumeb]

9. Agreed. No one with credibilty is saying it.

But his response is the correct one. If someone in the GOP lies, they should expect to be called out on the lie. There should be no safe spaces for these GOP liars.

[AtheistCrusader]

13. Absolutely.

I am interested to see if Biden can sustain that for an hour long debate with the orange road-rage simian currently infesting the White House.

[guillaumeb]

14. The problem that I see is that these are not actual debates.

And can Biden stand there and call everything Trump says a lie?

[AtheistCrusader]

15. I think so, since that's all Trump knows, is lies.

But he'll also have to include SOME info on why each is a lie.

I don't envy *anyone* that task. It's going to be a bit like emptying septic trucks.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I don't blame Biden a bit for getting testy.

The guy was questioning his competence and telling a flat-out lie about Biden and his son. There are times when you just have to call bullshit.

[guillaumeb]

10. Agreed.

Sometimes the truth can be harsh.

[UniteFightBack]

3. True..but he could of said that is a damn lie instead. nt

[Cha]

19. Yeah, I guess he didn't think of

that when attacked with stupid rw trump lies and insults who says he's an EW supporter..

[George II]

6. Yes indeed, and the fact is that he never "insulted" the man, he called him a damn liar, which he is

[padah513]

7. People are sensitive about their kids. It's their Achilles' heel.

My rugrats are well into their thirties, but I would go to the mat for any of them in a heartbeat. That's what parents do. The man came in reciting all the faux talking points about his son and he wasn't having it. I don't blame him. Sometimes it seems like anytime a member of the Democratic party shows any kind of fire in his belly, there are some both here and in the media who start reaching for their pearls.

[dalton99a]

11. That fucker lies like Trump.

[Act_of_Reparation]

16. Lying requires intent, yes?

I can't determine if the man was being deceitful or if he was just stupid.

Now, a candidate losing their cool and lambasting a heckler usually isn't a good look, but it seems to work for Donald Trump so who the fuck knows. Personally, I don't care... but I'm concerned that he doesn't look tough enough to back up the attitude and that will be perceived as insincere.

[guillaumeb]

17. Lying implies that one knows the truth.

So yes, this man might believe that what he is saying is true, but he is still repeating a lie.

[Cha]

18. The is what m$m does.. they went handwringing over a "tan suit"..

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Democrats keep saying that they need to take the fight to Trump in 2020, which is true, but they also need a candidate will go toe to toe with Trump and not be placed on the defensive by lies. The mainstream media handwringing and fainting over this clip are overblown.

Thank you for this, guillaumeb..

[guillaumeb]

20. Yes, the horror of that tan suit.

Biden told the truth by confronting the lie. And pretending that lies are alternate truths reduces language and fact to nonsense.