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Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:14 PM Dec 2019

Bernie Sanders is breaking barriers with young Latinos. Now he just needs them to vote



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As this coming year's nominating contest swirls into view, Sanders, the resilient democratic socialist from Vermont, will be counting on the support of Latinos, a kaleidoscopically diverse voting bloc that could swing races in states like California, Nevada, Florida and even Iowa, to help him -- and the progressive movement he stoked four years ago -- deliver the "political revolution" his supporters, staffers and volunteers have worked for so long to realize.

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In interviews with leading Democratic Latino strategists, pollsters, activists and Sanders' highest-profile backer, Ocasio-Cortez, a common thread emerged: Sanders, bolstered by notable early investments in Latino outreach and underscored by more nuanced messaging than typically directed at this diverse community, has created a growing sense that he might not only win with the community in states like Nevada and California, but chart out a new path for how Democrats seek and earn Latino support.

Still, many of the same observers warned that the Sanders campaign's ambitions are staked on a strategy that demands a break from historical convention -- drawing out young voters. The median age for Latinos in the US today is only about 28 years old, which offers the campaign some reason for optimism. But if Sanders fails, he wouldn't be the first. Since the voting age was reduced to 18 from 21 in 1971, the "youth vote" has repeatedly tantalized liberal campaigns, only to see it underperform relative to their parents' on Election Day.

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The Sanders campaign offers "a case study in how strategic, continued, ongoing investment in a community can pay off," said Stephanie Valencia, co-founder of Equis Labs and Obama's deputy Latino vote director in 2008. "And I think one of the things we have come to learn is that there are certain elements within the Latino community who are primed to support Democrats and progressives, but aren't just going to turnout because it's an election. They need a nudge to the polls."

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/08/politics/bernie-sanders-young-latino-voters/index.html



This is a good read.
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JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
1. K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:32 PM
Dec 2019
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
2. Bernie is targeting the Latino Vote in Iowa
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 04:56 PM
Dec 2019

Yes there are Latinos in Iowa

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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. That's the problem, not that their Latinos but voters under 29 are historically low turnout.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:33 PM
Dec 2019
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Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
4. That will be the challenge but I believe 2020 will break historic records in high voter turnout.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:41 PM
Dec 2019
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brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
5. Bernie's problem has been getting ALL of his supporters to vote...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:08 PM
Dec 2019

Attending rallies and participating in Facebook polls is always easier...

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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
6. Now there's one healthy dose of condescension.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:20 AM
Dec 2019
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brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
7. I like to think of it as cold, hard dispassionate analysis...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:19 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie is attracting roughly half the voters he got when he lost in 2016, despite the continued stories about how enthusiastic his rally crowds are.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
8. He hasn't gotten any birds this time either
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:06 AM
Dec 2019
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booley

(3,855 posts)
11. Where are you getting that?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:52 PM
Dec 2019
Bernie is attracting roughly half the voters he got when he lost in 2016


Uhh his rallies ae still drawing in hundreds to thousands. And he is raising money even faster than in 2015/16



This also leads to an obvious question..

How many are showing up to the rallies by other candidates by comparison?

Maybe what you say is true but you never bother to provide any citations and what I have found shows the opposite.

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brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
12. I'm referring to voters prepared to VOTE for him, not attending his rallies
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:05 PM
Dec 2019

In my opinion, advocates tend to hype their candidates' crowd size (I don't), which in my opinion is a meaningless indicator. A 20,000 person rally is about 2.4% of Sanders' 2016 vote count in NYS (not accounting for his fanbase coming in from NJ, PA, CT, MA etc).




My key point is that, at this point four years ago, Sanders was polling at 30% (Quinnipiac). Today, he's at 15% DESPITE the name recognition he's acquired in 4 years. I doubt there a lot of people still trying to make up their minds about him.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
14. How many Candidates were running at this point in the last election
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:49 PM
Dec 2019

Seems that's going to be a hang up to your argument. In December of 2015 there were only two actual contenders, Clinton and Sanders. This election is a bit different.



By that metric Buttigieg is doing even worse. He is nowhere near where Sanders is right now.

We should probably also consider how committed that support for Sanders is compared to other candidates.

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booley

(3,855 posts)
10. The rallies are a good sign
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:45 PM
Dec 2019

How many people got to those rallies?

How many individuals donate to him?

That shows investment. IF Sanders wins the nomination, those people are highly motivated to vote.

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NurseJackie

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13. I wonder what their feelings are on Sierra Blanca.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:13 PM
Dec 2019
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booley

(3,855 posts)
15. He is on the recond explaing his reasoning
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:00 PM
Dec 2019
Here is more on that

One of the reasons that many of us oppose nuclear power plants is that when this technology was developed, there was not a lot of thought given as to how we dispose of the nuclear waste. But…the reality, as others have already pointed out, is that the waste is here......

No reputable scientist of environmentalist believes that the geology of Vermont or Maine would be a good place for this waste. In the humid climate of Vermont and Maine, it is more likely that ground water will come in contact with that waste and carry off radioactive elements to the accessible environment. ...

There is widespread scientific evidence to suggest, on the other hand, that locations in Texas — some of which receive less than 12 inches of rainfall a year, a region where the groundwater table is more than 700 feet below the surface — is a far better location for this waste. This is not a political assertion, it is a geological and environmental reality.


Whether one agrees with that or not, it's still more than say Buttigieg has ever said on what he did for McKinsey, which is partly responsible for the conditions in ICE facilities.
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