Andrew Yang: "Impeachment is a disaster"

[brooklynite]

(At a DNC event)

- it sucks the oxygen out of the room news-wise
- He won’t be removed
- he’ll yell that he’s been exonerated

I’m liking him more and more...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. I like AY very much... but he's wrong about impeachment.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[sharedvalues]

10. He's wrong

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. But that's okay... he still has many good ideas.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Eyeball_Kid]

61. His comments are what's NOT needed right now.

This is serious business, and we don't need a high profile Democrat dismissing impeachment. Yang is reckless and undisciplined. He isn't recognizing that impeachment is not a Machiavellian tactic. There are Constitutional issues to resolve, regardless of what the Senate does. Just because the Senate MAY acquit doesn't justify ambivalence on the part of the House.

Yang is just trying to make headlines because he's being ignored, and when that happens, fundraising suffers.

[sharedvalues]

70. Yes. "Making headlines bc he's being ignored."

And harming the rest of us in the process. Grr

[Lucky Luciano]

41. Agreed 100%.

Yang is ahead of his time bringing up issues that are too far into the future to be on people’s radar now.

However, impeachment is necessary even though partisanship ruins its purpose. A stand must be taken and this stand is in good faith unlike the Clinton impeachment.

[brush]

54. Yep, he just blew what small chance he had. Dems have to...

impeach or presidents will from now on know they can just ignore Congressional oversight, not to mention risk the tens of thousands of voters who would stay home in disgust as do-nothing, milquetoast Dems kowtow to trump and the repugs yet again despite being in charge in the House.

And Yang seems to be forgetting that being impeached is not a favorable character trait for a presidential candidate.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

55. Yes but its certainly no worse than Joe sayin he doesnt want RethugliKKKons to get clobbered in 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[brush]

57. That little throwaway line by Biden is nothing to trump being...

impeached. It will be long forgotten when the voting starts, but impeachent won't be.

[LovingA2andMI]

2. He Can Leave The Stage....

At ANYTIME.

[totodeinhere]

51. So can any candidate. He has as much right to be on the stage as anyone else.

n/t

[LovingA2andMI]

73. He Can LEAVE....

Anytime. Repeated.

[SterlingPound]

3. - "it sucks the oxygen out of the room news-wise"

how dare the POTUS break laws during our never-ending campaign cycles

what an outrage


THAT IS THE REAL OUTRAGE RIGHT!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

53. Trump by himself sucks all the air out of the room.

I can't remember a single day since he was sworn in where Fat Donnie didn't dominate the news. Remember when Obama playing golf twice a month was considered a major story?

[SterlingPound]

62. I compleately agree

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[uponit7771]

65. +1, if it wasn't impeachment Red Don would be raping goats on 5th ave and laughing about it

... and that would suck the air out of the room.

AY is wrong on this

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. Does this help the Democratic Party....or hurt it'

Remember there is a lotta russian bots playing.

[Lulu KC]

14. It made me wonder, too n/t

[redqueen]

5. The head to head polling is looking worse and worse.

Yang has always said impeachment is the right thing to do, but that it may end up hurting us.

Pretty soon everyone will start understanding what he saw coming.

[Ztolkins]

9. How so?

You think they shouldn't impeach?

[TwilightZone]

16. False.

Biden, Warren, Sanders, and Buttigieg are +7 to +13 on Trump. Biden is at +13.

+13 would be a historic blowout. That doesn't look "worse and worse" by any conceivable measure.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/national_general_election/

[redqueen]

20. That's reassuring

I saw numbers this morning showing Trump beating every front runner in swing states.

Trying to find it now...

[EarlG]

24. I saw that poll too

Then realized it was by a “Republican polling firm”. Fox News and Washington Examiner were both touting it.

[redqueen]

30. Aha, thanks. Wish I'd noticed that before.

I'm still not at all confident this won't backfire on us but at least it isn't happening yet which is what I thought had already started.

People I work with don't even understand why he's being impeached. I am not at all sure we can win the battle od the spin after the Senate does whatever they end up doing.

[sprinkleeninow]

52. Yah, Wash. Examiner sounds like news you can use.

No, they bamboozlers!

[getagrip_already]

18. So if you call both sides of the coin being tossed...

How can you lose, right?

Except you are an idiot for hedging your bets. Sorry, impeachment isn't about taking out trump and never has been.

It is about exposing the truth of a corrupt and criminal administration. Winning in the senate would be a plus. Winning in 2020 would be a plus.

But the point is exposing the truth.

You can't take both sides of that coin.

Coward.

[redqueen]

23. And if the result is - as expected - a surge in support him, once he's perceived as being exonerated

and we get painted as having prosecuted him unfairly?

And we lose to him, again?

Will that sense of self-righteousness make it all worthwhile?

[getagrip_already]

26. only if you keep repeating right wing talking points....

But that hasn't happened, and no indication it will.

But nice concern trolling there. You might get it right some time soon.

[redqueen]

27. What talking points am I repeating?

[getagrip_already]

31. it will blow back on us.. it will hurt us in 2020... it is a huge mistake....

And dems will suffer badly.

All of that is straight from fox........

[redqueen]

33. I don't watch Fox so I wouldn't know. nt

[brush]

56. You don't know if that will happen and neither does Yang.

Thousands of voters are being made aware of trump's crimes through the hearings and since when is having been impeached an advantage for a presidential candidate?

The campaign ads write themselves.

[SamKnause]

6. What does he suggest we do to hold Trump accountable ???

I am aware that he will not be impeached, but his crimes will be exposed.

I am aware that Trump and the republicans will continue to lie, but at this point

what other tools do we have in our tool box ???

Waiting for the courts, stacked by Trump appointees, is nothing more than a ruse to run out the clock.

[brush]

59. He will be IMPEACHED by the House. He might not be convicted...

by the Senate, but what candidate wants the IMPEACHED tag hung around his/her neck when running for re-election?

The campaign ads against the orange crook write themselves for us Dems.

[Joe941]

7. Yang's campaign is a disaster

[redqueen]

8. That's funny considering who he's outlasted. nt

[TwilightZone]

17. Which is irrelevant if he doesn't outlast the top four.

Outlasting everyone except the real contenders wouldn't be much of an accomplishment.

[redqueen]

25. Regardless, his campaign is obviously not a disaster.

Going from a nameless random man to outlasting senators and governors is an accomplishment.

[redstateblues]

78. Yang's campaign a disaster? Probably not the right word. How about futile?

I don't think there has ever been a candidate who considered 5th or 6th place an accomplishment. Let's be honest, he doesn't have a chance to win the nomination

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Is he mad that the media are actually paying attention to the impeachment hearing

instead of, I don't know, him? That's bullshit. Were the Dems just supposed to ignore Trump's crimes?

[Autumn]

12. I disagree with him on this. We know he won't be removed but Trumps crimes must be exposed,

it's a duty that has to be done. And the Republicans have to be exposed for giving him cover.

[Maven]

15. Comments like this are why people get the perception that Ds don't have principles

The perception is bullshit but it's hard to counteract when people like Yang are out there saying that HOLDING AN INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL ACCOUNTABLE isn't in Democrats' political interest.

[Snackshack]

19. Yea...

It will upset trump so obviously Dems should not impeach him...

/facepalm

[MustLoveBeagles]

21. I like Yang

I agree with him on some things but this isn't one of them. Holding trump accountable for his actions is the right thing to to.

[ritapria]

22. From MSN Breaking News

The Dems will draft 2 Articles of Impeachment against Trump. No further details

[getagrip_already]

28. msnbc was very tentative....

They said there was still a lot of dissent over how wide to make it, but it will likely be 3, not 2.

[ritapria]

39. I hope there are 3 Articles of Impeachment

I was providing you guys correct info from what I read

[getagrip_already]

40. rachel just said 2....

so it's going up and down. Might be an announcement in the morning. Stay tuned.

[hay rick]

29. The only thing worse than impeachment is not impeaching corrupt and criminal behavior.

Adults should understand.

[redqueen]

32. If you're taking that tack he should have been impeached in 2017.

Weird how his malfeasance only became an issue this year.

[hay rick]

35. Never too late to do the right thing. nt

[Midnightwalk]

42. Let's make the reduction absurd

His father should have pulled out a long time ago. Can’t do anything about that so give up?

Which party held the house in 2017?

The democrats won the house in 2018 but the term started in 2019. That’s this year isn’t it?

What course would you suggest?

[redqueen]

45. Maybe not waiting till the summer to start this?

We had control of the house in January - so why wait? We already knew there was a laundry list of impeachable crimes - so why wait?

[Midnightwalk]

49. I like that question better

As if that matters.

Some said do it fast. Some said why bother the senate won’t convict. Others said get more evidence.

Then there was evidence a few months ago that trump extorted Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.

I’ve read that more than a few representatives said that was the straw that made them switch to support.

At what point does silence become consent? The critical question is when is there no longer an excuse to remain silent. Not what was the earliest time.

[brush]

60. Memory lapse? Are you forgetting waiting on the Mueller report?

Thanks to Barr's treacherous pre-report and Mueller's less than stellar and obvious physical decline when he appeared, Speaker Pelosi held off on going for impeachment then as she knew trump would do something else to set up a stronger case for impeachment.

Come on, this was not that long ago and we didn't control the House in 2017 anyway so your post should probably be taken down.

[Hoyt]

34. Yang has also supported impeachment, but I don't think his comment in OP is particularly helpful now

that we've started the process.

We have to finish it at this point, dropping the impeachment effort at this time is admitting trump is "perfect."

[TwilightZone]

36. There's no evidence supporting his assertions.

Support of impeachment has increased.

https://civiqs.com/results/trump_impeachment?annotations=true&uncertainty=true&zoomIn=true&utm_campaign=ticker

Our top candidates are thumping Trump head-to-head.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/national_general_election/

[Salviati]

44. Honestly...

...Any democratic candidate that can't make hay out of the republicans making clowns out of themselves in the impeachment proceedings can't be trusted to run the kind of general election campaign we need.

[Cha]

63. Good point.

[W_HAMILTON]

37. What would he rather have on the news?

Reports of him boycotting media appearances because of how they are """rigging""" the nomination against him?

I wish these vanity no-chance candidates would just get lost already.

[AlexSFCA]

38. this isn't a political calculation but a constitutional duty

Dems are trying to protect our democratic institutions regardless if it may negatively impact election. The grave issue is that trump went right after the presumptive nominee. If dems let it fold out, gop will have no breaks and they can do a hit job on any candidate, prez or senator, involving foreign help. They learned the lesson by not defending HRC, the most qualified candidate to ever seek office in modern history and the most admired woman worldwide.

[totodeinhere]

50. I'm not sure about that. The Constitution allows for impeachment but it doesn't require it.

Trump's crimes must be exposed and there must be a historical record of what he has done. I agree with that. But our first priority must be getting rid of him and if this process hurts us politically and allows him to win the 2020 election then I really fear for our country.

[tirebiter]

43. Bribing is crime that everyone understands or should, anyway.

Plus he did not so much admit but brag that he did the deed.

[Beringia]

46. It's our duty, what the heck is talking about

[dalton99a]

47. So we're supposed to shut up and do nothing about his crimes?

Fuck that shit.

[brooklynite]

68. We're supposed to defeat him in the election, after which you can indict him.

[dalton99a]

69. You don't think anything he did is impeachable?

[brooklynite]

72. I don't think Impeaching him increases the chance of his electoral loss or criminal indictment

[Cha]

48. This sounds self-centered and not wise.

[BlueWI]

58. Disappointing.

I really like Yang's analysis of economic issues. But his best chance at improving his public standing is in being perceived as a candidate that thinks practically and appeals outside of the Democratic core base.

I'd have to read the actual content of this remarks before making a full judgment, though. And I do agree, to a point, that Democrats need to build a case for election that goes far beyond being the non-Trump party. That's one of Yang's strengths.

[Skidmore]

64. Well, I 'm liking

him less. Tired of his whining, tired of the trolling of his supporters, tired of the sheer volume of campaign literature in the mailbox everyday, and not enamoured of his brave new world.

[Scurrilous]

66. ".. it sucks the oxygen out of the room news-wise."

Actually, the impeachment hearings put Democrats in the room news-wise.



Democrats who would normally rarely get face-time on the news are now in a room and on the news daily.

[brooklynite]

67. How many people in the room are running for President against Trump?

[Scurrilous]

74. I would like to think all Democrats are 'running' against Trump.

[Maven]

75. Exactly. This is a lame argument by a political neophyte. nt

[Happy Hoosier]

71. He's wrong on this. VERY wrong.

It's important to call out wrong doing of this scale.

[BlueIdaho]

76. Andrew Yang has said a lot of smart things

This isn’t one of them.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

77. Trump committed impeachable offenses. He had to be impeached.

I'll trust extremely politically experienced Nancy Pelosi on this over politically inexperienced Andrew Yang any day.