UPDATE.. BS' Press sec Goes on Cenk's show to Defend him Against Elizabeth..

[Cha]

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The National BS Campaign was Urged to Stay Out of Race..

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Sanders’ abrupt reversal represented a misstep for Vermont senator and presidential candidate. The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.

But Sanders endorsed Uygur regardless. His intervention created turmoil on the ground in California’s 25th Congressional district, a seat that Democrats flipped in 2018 but is now vacant after Democrat Katie Hill resigned amid allegations of sexual impropriety.''

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Similar denunciations poured forth again following Sanders’ endorsement on Thursday. Even supporters of the Vermont senator expressed dismay that the progressive standard-bearer would back a candidate, in Uygur, with a problematic history. Local activists also groused that, unlike Smith, Uygur does not live in the district.

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[Eliot Rosewater]

1. As disgusting as Cenk is, and he is, IF the reason Bernie would endorse him is because

he, Bernie, truly believed Cenk was going to be a supporter of the democratic socialism Bernie and many of us want, then you could almost understand why he would ignore the HUGE problem Cenk has.

But, if that is the case why does it seem to happen so often? Once, I get. I truly do, I mean surely Bernie doesnt share Cenk's horribly ugly views that make Cenk so controversial, so why does this happen over and over?

I am honestly asking, because as someone who will have to support Bernie if he is the nominee, I have to know, we all do.

[comradebillyboy]

46. Bernie endorsed Cenk and I presume Bernie knows who Cenk is.

Perhaps they have more things in common than you are comfortable with. Keep in mind his California campaign staff warned him to stay away but Bernie endorsed anyway.

[Cha]

121. Of course he does

[Cha]

129. And, I've Updated the OP.. BS' press sec Goes on Cenk

to Defend BS against Elizabeth.

[Cha]

2. No longer accepting endorsements that are never going to happen.

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[ehrnst]

51. Yep, that's how he'll "explain" why no one will endorse him...

And so many will just swallow that whole and use it to defend him against comments about lack of endorsements.

Also the "I welcome their hate" - FDR will be be generously applied as another excuse as to why "centrists are threatened by his progressive ideas" so they "attack him," with "hit pieces in the corporatist media" or "feel like they are unfit compared to him, so they try to and snapped up all the endorsements before he could get any."

The tried and true excuses....

[Cha]

64. With a HUGE twist of Cenk Whine..

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Yeah, who doesn't accept endorsements but someone who got an endorsement from BS that "blew up in his face" so they had to figure out a way for him to retract with the least collateral damage? Not working, tho.

Mahalo, ehrnst!

[George II]

3. Wow! Amazing that he still went ahead and endorsed the _______ (fill in the blanks).....

Terrible judgement, and frightening to think that one can be our nominee and vie for the presidency. Makes one shake one's head.

[NurseJackie]

5. It's troubling.

[Cha]

6. Incredibly tone deaf.. Christy Smith's Endorsements that she will

not need to tell them.. TAKE BACK YOUR ENDORSEMENTS! 'Cause Reasons..

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https://www.christyforcongress.org/endorsements

Christy Smith has brilliant leaders endorsing her campaign.. too many to post!

Mahalo, George

[comradebillyboy]

47. "Terrible judgement". It's gotten to be a habit with Sanders.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

103. Bernie has EXCELLENT judgment... here nailed the Iraq War vote didn't he?!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Cha]

104. Yes.. the Proof of that is endorsing cenk and

the jill stein pushers & voters he hired.. jill stein is a known liar. she has trump blood on her hands and so do Sirota, gray, and turner.

[Cha]

92. "cenk has the white nationalist endorsement.. "

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I haven't heard of cernovich but I'm taking this guy's word for it.

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Thanks for posting a tweet from the best Political Journalist in the...

...world!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. .

[Cha]

122. ..

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[NurseJackie]

11. ...

[redqueen]

52. Why be ugly?

The man is proud of his daughter.

[NurseJackie]

56. I guess I just have higher standards...

I guess I just have higher standards with regard to what actually qualifies as being "best in the world". Why insult me by calling me ugly? I have never said such a thing about you.

[redqueen]

58. Wasn't calling YOU ugly - the BEHAVIOR is ugly

That was an ugly response to his comment about his daughter.

And I wish I was surprised this needed to be spelled out.

[NurseJackie]

59. ...

[Blue_true]

76. She is an excellent reporter, always has her nose to the ground scoping out relevant news. nt

[NurseJackie]

78. I've seen better.

And "best in the world" is flattery that's not deserved. Opinions differ, obviously.

[Blue_true]

79. For her to be as young as she is, she is a very talented reporter.

People like Rather had role models like Cronkite. In today's world, with fractured news sources, there is no real pivotal role model to take a young reporter under their wing. I compare Holly to a young Christiane Armanpour (sp), except Holly's gig is domestic political reporting rather than foreign events news reporting.

[NurseJackie]

80. I'm not impressed.

[Blue_true]

81. We will have to disagree. I believe that she is an excellent reporter.

Certainly not the "best in the world" as her justifiably proud dad claims, but surely a very capable and increasingly noticed reporter who is on her way to the top of her profession, IMO.

[NurseJackie]

82. I'm sure that H.A. Goodman's parents are proud too.

[Blue_true]

83. Holly Otterbein is a reporter who reports the news, HA Goodman was a confused,

wannabe opinion czar.

There is no comparison, IMO.

[NurseJackie]

84. I'm talking about parental pride, but surely you knew that.

[Blue_true]

87. No, I didn't know that. But I can be slow on the uptake, especially when uncommon analogies are

used. Look, I sharply disagree with her dad, he is in a political thought camp that I have no intention of joining because I have never seen it produce societal progress, but that doesn't prevent me from admitting that the child is excellent in her chosen field.

[NurseJackie]

88. Too bad BS didn't hire her for his campaign, eh?

The point is, parents are almost always glowingly proud of their progeny no matter how awful they are in real life. After all, this is the "everyone gets a trophy" era.

[Blue_true]

89. She seems to be too competent to get hired by Bernie.

He seems to prefer hiring doctrinaire foot-shooters.

[NurseJackie]

90. Something we agree on.

[Cha]

126. Kicking for Updating the OP..

[sheshe2]

15. Your daughter is great.

Holly Otterbein
✔
@hollyotterbein


NEW: The California arm of Bernie Sanders’ campaign was warned about Cenk Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.

w/ @jeremybwhite
https://www.
politico.com/states/califor
nia/story/2019/12/13/bernie-rescinds-cenk-uygur-endorsement-after-backlash-1231970
…

Good to see she is speaking the truth about BS endorsement of Cenk. A good journalist sees both sides of the issue.

Brava Holly.

[JoeOtterbein]

21. Thanks sheshe2!

Your words always mean much to me!

I always tried to teach all my four cool kids to be "brutally honest with yourself, and then being honest with others will be a piece of cake!" (It meant a bit more to them, because my Dad was a baker who made and decorated cakes).

Have fun tonight!

[sheshe2]

25. Good.

So glad she is seeing his true colors. No Democratic woman/ man would stand for a misogynist like Cenk.

[Cha]

31. Cenk said the genes of women who didn't want to sleep with him are "flawed." BS said his voice "..

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Cenk Uygur said the genes of women who didn’t want to sleep with him are “flawed.” Bernie Sanders said his voice “desperately” belongs in Congress. Now everyone’s backtracking
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Sanders’ endorsement of Uygur was a shock to California Democrats already fearful that Uygur’s long history of ugly comments about women, as well as racial and sexual minority groups—coupled with his strong popularity among the internet left—could thwart their plans to keep California’s 25th congressional district in Democratic hands.

“California Women's List is disappointed in Senator Sanders’ endorsement of Cenk Uygur, a candidate who has repeatedly used misogynistic, racist, and homophobic language,” Emily Zahn, board president of California Women’s List, which fundraises for female Democratic candidates across the state, told The Daily Beast. “This endorsement appears to go against Senator Sanders' platform and role as a leader in the progressive movement.”

Ya think? But he did it anyway..

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-rescinds-endorsement-after-womens-groups-blast-misogynist-cenk-uygur?via=twitter_page

Mahalo, she

[redqueen]

53. Really hate when "journalists" won't let the truth speak for itself.

"Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully."

He's not saying the genes of women who don't want to sleep with him are flawed. He's saying women's genes as a whole are flawed because we aren't horndogs like most men.

It's an ignorant, ugly, misogynistic thing to say as it is. No need for any spin.

[LongtimeAZDem]

60. Yes, he is; read the whole quote:

“It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

[Lexee]

67. Peaceably? Why men must rape?

[Cha]

91. I haven't had a chance to thank you for that quote..

So Mahalo, LongtimeAZDem!

[Cha]

68. Yes, BS endorsed a vile lewd serial misogynist for our US Congress..

“It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

[Blue_true]

75. Conflict of interest much?

Actually, your daughter is showing herself to be an excellent reporter. Next is likely "talking head" status, getting booked for Sunday shows and regularly appearing on national TV.

[Cha]

105. Not a good look for BS

[Cha]

110. Not a good luck for the BS campaign.

[Cha]

113. I posted it for what she reported on.. "BS was urged Not

to endorse cenk but did it anyway."

[Cha]

119. This is about the context Not the messenger.

[Cha]

140. UPDATE the OP..

[Scurrilous]

7. Nina Turner endorsed Cenk before Bernie.

I wonder what influence she had on Bernie making this reckless decision.

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Love this response.

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[George II]

8. Well, she voted for Jill Stein, so no surprise. Isn't she Sanders' Campaign Co-chair?

[Scurrilous]

13. Yep. She's the campaign co-chair and president of Our Revolution.

She's made questionable hirings and endorsements before...I can see her messing this one up.

[Cha]

9. Priceless.. the coveted nina turner endorsement!

cenk asked for that endorsement from Howard Dean's...

Mahalo, Scurrilous

[NurseJackie]

12. 🎵 Of course, of course! 🎵

🐎😜

[sheshe2]

16. He will give you the answers you endorse!

[NurseJackie]

61. ...

[betsuni]

14. But ... I thought progressives weren't supposed to take money from billionaires.

Cenk has. Now it's fine, it's a horse of a different color?

[sheshe2]

18. I love this post.

[betsuni]

32. Hay, thanks!

[sheshe2]

34. Hay is for horses...

Hey wait! Got it~

[Scurrilous]

41. That pic compels me to trot this out.

stumpjumper

"In old Colonial south, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and other states where female Mules and Mare's were used for field work the young men tending these farm animals would often find a suitable height stump around the edge of the field they were working and back the animal up to their penis and give it a good flogging."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stump%20jumper


When Cenk hits the stump the jokes will write themselves.

[betsuni]

43. A different kind of gallop pole.

[Scurrilous]

45. ...

[sheshe2]

96. Bwahaha

[Cha]

139. omg.. cenkarma

[NurseJackie]

22. Whinny! Ptptptptpt!

🐎🐴🤣

[sheshe2]

35. Nina is looking for the VP slot.

[DURHAM D]

17. Yang endorsed Cenk on November 14th.

Was Yang asked to go away?

[msongs]

24. probably nobody even noticed except for yourself and maybe a few others nt

[NurseJackie]

27. How long before he takes it back?

[comradebillyboy]

48. That certainly makes me question Yang's judgment...

[Cha]

98. Thanks for the heads up, Durham!

[stopdiggin]

19. just a totally unforced error

and totally deliberate. So HARD to understand. WHY?

[NurseJackie]

29. Poor judgement? Stubbornness?

Hard to say.

[betsuni]

30. There are many equestrians about this that need answers.

[Cha]

112. You'll have to ask BS.

[NYMinute]

20. K&R

Almost like telling someone "Don't put your hand in the garbage disposal until the circuit breaker is off" and then that person puts a hand in anyway, seeing it get pulverized.

[NYMinute]

23. lol n/t

[ritapria]

26. Who was JB's bosom buddy in the US Senate ?

I will give you two hints ... One is Strom ..The other is Thurmond

[Cha]

33. Oh NO ya Don't, rita..you're not getting BS out of his endorsement

of cenk by trying to change the damn subject..

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Cenk Uygur said the genes of women who didn’t want to sleep with him are “flawed.” Bernie Sanders said his voice “desperately” belongs in Congress. Now everyone’s backtracking
https://
trib.al/V035Alq

Sanders’ endorsement of Uygur was a shock to California Democrats already fearful that Uygur’s long history of ugly comments about women, as well as racial and sexual minority groups—coupled with his strong popularity among the internet left—could thwart their plans to keep California’s 25th congressional district in Democratic hands.

“California Women's List is disappointed in Senator Sanders’ endorsement of Cenk Uygur, a candidate who has repeatedly used misogynistic, racist, and homophobic language,” Emily Zahn, board president of California Women’s List, which fundraises for female Democratic candidates across the state, told The Daily Beast. “This endorsement appears to go against Senator Sanders' platform and role as a leader in the progressive movement.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-rescinds-endorsement-after-womens-groups-blast-misogynist-cenk-uygur?via=twitter_page

[betsuni]

37. When in doubt, go back to the 20th century for a Whatabout.

[Cha]

39. Lol! you..

crack me up Very much in doubt. As if that had Any bearing on BS endorsing the lewd serial misogynist from 2 days ago.

[Scurrilous]

36. And look who's throwing cold water on this particular line of attack.

Joe Biden Once Spoke At Strom Thurmond's Memorial Service. How Do People Feel About That Now?

“He wasn’t the bigoted segregationist himself,” said Nina Turner, president of Our Revolution, a political organization aligned with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. “He’ll have other things that he’s going to be judged by. What he actually did when he was in positions of power is what will matter.”

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/joe-biden-strom-thurmond-eulogy


As for 'bosom buddy,' that position is taken.

[Cha]

74. Thank you for the Cold Water, Scurrilous..

[TexasTowelie]

40. False equivalence.

As bad as Strom Thurmond was, Cenk Uyger is far worse and you know it.

[redqueen]

54. I'm sorry, what? Cenk is worse than a man who spent most of his long life as a proud racist?

Really?

[Cha]

65. The subject is BS endorsing the lewd serial misogynist, cenk

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“It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

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[LongtimeAZDem]

66. He named his show after the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide, spouted vile misogyny,

and promoted bestiality (joking or not).

So, yes.

[redqueen]

71. Didn't know that about the name of the show.

I knew he was denying the genocide ever happened which was bad enough...

Point taken.

[Cha]

100. cenk is a real pos.. "Hey, Remember When Nancy Pelosi Killed 45,000 Americans By Passing Obamacare"

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[SidDithers]

63. When the indefensible can't be defended, change the subject!!!...nt

Sid

[Cha]

94. Yeah, without success.

Mahalo, Sid

[Cha]

132. Why do you care?

[Cha]

133. Again with the whatabout..

[Cha]

135. BS unendorses Cenk because of his sexist, racist and bigoted comments

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[Cha]

28. Cenk said the genes of women who didn't want to sleep with him are "flawed." BS said his voice "..

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Cenk Uygur said the genes of women who didn’t want to sleep with him are “flawed.” Bernie Sanders said his voice “desperately” belongs in Congress. Now everyone’s backtracking
https://
trib.al/V035Alq

Sanders’ endorsement of Uygur was a shock to California Democrats already fearful that Uygur’s long history of ugly comments about women, as well as racial and sexual minority groups—coupled with his strong popularity among the internet left—could thwart their plans to keep California’s 25th congressional district in Democratic hands.

“California Women's List is disappointed in Senator Sanders’ endorsement of Cenk Uygur, a candidate who has repeatedly used misogynistic, racist, and homophobic language,” Emily Zahn, board president of California Women’s List, which fundraises for female Democratic candidates across the state, told The Daily Beast. “This endorsement appears to go against Senator Sanders' platform and role as a leader in the progressive movement.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-rescinds-endorsement-after-womens-groups-blast-misogynist-cenk-uygur?via=twitter_page

[NurseJackie]

38. Cenk is a pig! 🐷

He's a relic.

[redqueen]

55. No, he didn't. The truth matters.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=382065

[LongtimeAZDem]

62. Yes, he did:

“It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

[Lexee]

69. Since women have been populating earth from the beginning of time, the statement is flawed

and directed to him not getting it. Peaceably? Would that be excusing rape?

[Cha]

117. Yeah, it's weird for anyone

trying to cover for cenk.. we all know Truth Matters.. that's why we're here.

[Cha]

134. Ikr..

[Cha]

70. Yes, he did..

“It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean,” he wrote. “Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.”

[TwilightZone]

85. The truth starts a couple of sentences before the portion you quoted.

You might want to read the whole thing. It's been posted as a response to your assertion a few times in this thread. The context is that it's all about him, not a generic statement.

[Cha]

111. thank you!

[Cha]

130. Yes, the truth is in the OP.

[TomCADem]

42. Surprised? "Bernie Sanders, the 'sexy' Democrat with friends on Tinder"

Is this really a surprise from Bernie's national campaign? Back in 2016, weren't there reports that Bernie supporters were deploying young women to drum up support for Bernie ... by flirting on tinder:

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35504758

As the race to become the Democratic presidential candidate heats up in the United States, the left-leaning Bernie Sanders has become a surprising star on social media, with young voters using mobile phone apps to push others to #feelthebern.

As Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders clashed in their first one-on-one debate it was the senator from Vermont who started to trend worldwide.

So what are Bernie's supporters doing differently to bolster his support amongst younger voters? One place where he is a surprising hit is the dating app Tinder.

Kevin Smit from Alkmaar in the Netherlands has used Tinder to spread the Bernie gospel. "I'm not a heterosexual male and I too believe he's sexy" he joked to BBC News.

https://www.gq.com/story/tinder-bernie-sanders

A Group of Genius Women Are Using Tinder to Campaign for Bernie Sanders

Oh, Tinder. That terrible, cesspool of garbage that passes itself off as a dating app can be a pretty frustrating place. And that's my opinion as a guy. If you've ever had a single conversation with a woman who has used Tinder, you know it's even worse for them.

But, according to a report from Joseph Bernstein at BuzzFeed one group of women has decided to turn that cesspool into something a little better and a little more important. They've begun using the app as a way to get more people to support the Senator from Vermont.



Men are the worst. (Seriously guys, stop being so fucking creepy.) Anyway, it's wonderful that these women have finally found a good reason for Tinder to exist. They're helping people feel the Bern, and that's way better than any other burning sensation that you can get on Tinder.

[OldRed2450]

44. Good God!

That really happened?

[TomCADem]

72. Yup. At the time, It Was Portrayed as a Brilliant Campaign Strategy...

...that was written with the idea that Bernie's campaign was being novel in leveraging social media with women supporters flirting on tinder to generate campaign support.

[ehrnst]

50. That's a real lapse in judgement. (nt)

[Cha]

108. Not the first time.

[ehrnst]

49. Sounds like he doesn't trust anyone's judgement who doesn't agree with him 100%

until after he sees that they are right, and he's disappointed many of his supporters.

It appears he believes they would never, ever question his authority.

[Cha]

93. Well, he stepped in it

this time not taking the warnings of the CA BS branch seriously.

Thank you, ehnst

[highplainsdem]

57. K&R!

[Cha]

109. Mahalo, highplains!

2020!

[Gothmog]

73. The CA-25 special election is the same day as the Super Tuesday primary

I suspect that Cenk will hurt sanders in the California primary which is why the state campaign asked sanders to not endorse

[sheshe2]

77. Oops.

[Cha]

95. Yeah Big Blunder.. and we won't forget it.

[comradebillyboy]

86. Every cloud has a silver lining.....

[Gothmog]

116. I really dislike Cenk and the TYT

[Cha]

123. I just UPDATED the OP, Goth!

I feel the same..

[Gothmog]

128. Thanks Cha

[Cha]

97. That cat is already out of the bag.. BS

isn't so pure.

[Cha]

115. Oh I hope so!

[Cha]

99. Relevant.

[DarthDem]

101. Whoa!!!

Katie Hill did NOT resign because of "alleged sexual improprieties." Seeing that in print flipping incenses me. She resigned because her jealous husband published revenge porn of her with the help of a despicable right-wing online rag. Let's get this straight.

[Cha]

102. Mahalo for that, DarthDem!

[DarthDem]

106. Thanks, Cha

Geez. Talk about fake news.

[Cha]

107. It's everywhere.. Thank You!

[Cha]

114. Bottom line.. BS endorsed cenk.

[Cha]

118. K

[Cha]

120. But they didn't do it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

124. What a disgusting piece of crap.

[Cha]

125. Yep.

[Cha]

136. kicking it..

[Scurrilous]

127. K&R

[Cha]

131. Mahalo, Scurrilous!

[Scurrilous]

137. K&R

[Cha]

138. Thank you!

[Cha]

141. Kick