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redqueen

(115,096 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:13 PM Dec 2019

Andrew Yang has defied expectations. Can he turn that into a 2020 win?

WASHINGTON – Jason Woltz had never donated to a political campaign before.

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Woltz’s story is like that of many other Yang supporters: They maybe didn't know much about him a year ago when Yang launched his campaign. They heard him on a podcast or something similar. They liked him, and then they got involved.
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On Thursday, Yang (will) be the only non-white candidate to take the stage at the sixth and final Democratic debate of 2019. He has outlasted seasoned politicians, such as Sen. Kamala Harris, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand and New York City Mayor Bill deBlasio, who entered the race with much higher national profiles.
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As Democrats look to win back voters who either switched to Trump or sat out in 2016, the diverse coalition Yang has attracted is valuable. Yang’s following — which includes Never-Trump Republicans, Libertarians, tried and true Democrats, and Democrats who are disenfranchised by the establishment — could be a benefit to whomever the Democratic nominee is.
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While Yang has brought in some Republican and former Trump supporters, he has also inspired some supporters to become more politically engaged.
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Andrew Yang has defied expectations. Can he turn that into a 2020 win? (Original Post) redqueen Dec 2019 OP
I believe that he can Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #1
I agree of course :) redqueen Dec 2019 #5
No comparison. In early 2004 Obama won the Dem primary race for the US Senate in a landslide, highplainsdem Dec 2019 #6
Time will tell Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #7
If Yang took more time and built the political career Obama built, then time would tell. I don't highplainsdem Dec 2019 #8
Possibly Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #9
I doubt he will. redqueen Dec 2019 #11
Time will tell us what happens. Until then I remain Undecided. abqtommy Dec 2019 #2
No Aquaria Dec 2019 #3
No NYMinute Dec 2019 #4
Has Yang Defied expecttions? judeling Dec 2019 #10
Yes, obviously he has. Ironic that that question would come from a Klobuchar supporter. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #12
If this was a natioanal judeling Dec 2019 #20
What? redqueen Dec 2019 #21
Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #23
If nothing else TheFarseer Dec 2019 #13
I'd love to see Yang have a place in the next administration. dawg Dec 2019 #14
Not unless he can stir up more supporters, he can't. MineralMan Dec 2019 #15
No candidate in single digits in polling at this stage of the race has won the nomination Gothmog Dec 2019 #16
That's not true. redqueen Dec 2019 #17
Who won when they were in single digits at this stage of the primary process? Gothmog Dec 2019 #19
Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Kerry. nt redqueen Dec 2019 #22
I would happily vote for him if he managed to become the nominee loyalsister Dec 2019 #18
 

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I believe that he can
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:17 PM
Dec 2019

After all a little known neighborhood organizer turned state senator with a funny sounding name became first a US Senator and then President of the United States.

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redqueen

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5. I agree of course :)
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:53 PM
Dec 2019

It's amazing he's come as far as he has despite being treated so unfairly by the media.

I wonder how much time he'll get in the next debate 😁 they surely can't get away with ignoring him completely for the first half hour like last time 😂

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highplainsdem

(48,732 posts)
6. No comparison. In early 2004 Obama won the Dem primary race for the US Senate in a landslide,
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:55 PM
Dec 2019

after securing the support of three of the largest unions in the state of Illinois, and the endorsements of four of the nine US House members from Illinois. That landslide victory started the talk about a possible presidential run in his future.

He was then tapped to give the keynote speech at the DNC in 2004.

He clearly had the recognition and approval of party leadership by then.

Yang has no such political background.

Yes, Yang has managed to stay in the race longer than I'd expected. But he's nowhere near the top tier of candidates.

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Sherman A1

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7. Time will tell
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:02 PM
Dec 2019

but I believe he can do so.

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highplainsdem

(48,732 posts)
8. If Yang took more time and built the political career Obama built, then time would tell. I don't
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:04 PM
Dec 2019

see any reason to believe he'll make it to the top tier in 2020, or do better in any presidential run until he has more of a resume.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. Possibly
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:15 PM
Dec 2019

but his thinking is about 3 steps ahead of the rest of the field.

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redqueen

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11. I doubt he will.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:21 PM
Dec 2019

He honestly never expected to get this far.

His main goal was to steer the debate so that the disruption due to automation would stop being ignored. And so we wouldn't lose again by ignoring the working class again.

But now that he's outlasted sitting senators, congresspeople, etc, he's in it to win. And I'm glad, because I truly believe he's our best candidate against Trump.

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. Time will tell us what happens. Until then I remain Undecided.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:41 PM
Dec 2019
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Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
3. No
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

This has been a simple answer to a simple question.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
10. Has Yang Defied expecttions?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:17 PM
Dec 2019

That is really the first question to ask. He certainly hasn't exceeded any. That the people he initially attracted have remained may be surprising to many it shouldn't be. Along with Gabbard the people who support them do so on some very real issues. Just not issues that will sway much more then those they have already garnered.

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redqueen

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12. Yes, obviously he has. Ironic that that question would come from a Klobuchar supporter. nt
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:22 PM
Dec 2019
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judeling

(1,086 posts)
20. If this was a natioanal
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 08:39 PM
Dec 2019

Nomination you could have a point. It isn't.

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redqueen

(115,096 posts)
21. What?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:25 PM
Dec 2019

He's gone from a nobody to outlasting members of Congress, governors, etc.

There is no denying that he has defied expectations. One cannot say the same about Klobuchar, unfortunately.

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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
13. If nothing else
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:35 PM
Dec 2019

He’s made the idea of UBI more mainstream and introduced a new perspective on jobs in America. He’s done really well.

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dawg

(10,610 posts)
14. I'd love to see Yang have a place in the next administration.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:53 PM
Dec 2019

He's a smart guy who is just, maybe, a few years ahead of his time.

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MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
15. Not unless he can stir up more supporters, he can't.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 03:15 PM
Dec 2019

I'm not seeing that happening so far.

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Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
16. No candidate in single digits in polling at this stage of the race has won the nomination
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:37 PM
Dec 2019
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redqueen

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17. That's not true.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:11 PM
Dec 2019

One can say 'well that was different because reasons' but nevertheless, it has happened.

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Gothmog

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19. Who won when they were in single digits at this stage of the primary process?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:37 PM
Dec 2019
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redqueen

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22. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is Kerry. nt
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:25 PM
Dec 2019
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loyalsister

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18. I would happily vote for him if he managed to become the nominee
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 07:28 PM
Dec 2019

If my current primary preference is no longer in the race on super Tuesday I may vote for him then.

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