I have a concern about Joe and Hunter

[mainstreetonce]

Obviously Trump wants to use Hunter's drug abuse history.
I don't know how Hunter is currently doing ,but it worries me.
Hunter lived through horrible childhood trauma losing his mother and sister and being injured himslelf.
Joe has lost his first wife and now two of their three children.

We are going to be up for a year of Trump attacking Hunter at rallies.

I think his strategy was to hurt Joe where he is most vulnerable and make him want to drop out .

It also may be to send Hunter to his drugs.


I am really worried about parent and son.


We don't need a chance of a tragedy.


I am supporting Joe as my first choice,but I am really scared

I just heard a clip of a Trumper screaming "Your son is a crack head" at a Biden rally.

How do we shut Trump up?

If Trump were to go on a debate stage and start the crack head stuff,I think he should be told to shut up by the moderator.

[lapucelle]

1. Your self-acknowledged concern is duly noted.

[Beartracks]

2. This is the first "concern duly noted" post I've come across. Great.

Primary season, it gets deep.

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[cwydro]

23. Oh, this is not the first, and it certainly won't be the last lol.

I remember seeing that quite frequently in the last election when people expressed fear that somehow the orange asshole might win.

Funny that.

[Beartracks]

30. Yep. Afterwards...

... I had the audacity to suggest they were obviously right to have been concerned since Trump did indeed win, and that maybe we should have tried to reassure them rather than dismiss them as Republican trolls(!) -- and so I got dissed by some here for apparently doing a "ha ha told you so" happy dance. Because, sure, that made sense.

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[cwydro]

32. Obviously, you hit a nerve.

Yes, I had the same experience when pointing that out.

I remember those who made the dismissive posts, as well as those who said they planned to rub our “victory” in the faces of those who voted for the scum all.

I was concerned then too, but I never said it other than once lol. Tired of the shoutdown that ensued.

I’m concerned this time too, and I’ll say so.

[PatSeg]

16. Those are relatively legitimate concerns

Trump fights dirty and pushes a lot of buttons, but I think Joe is prepared for that and will be able to counteract any below the belt attacks. This will be a rough time for Hunter and as such, will affect his parents as well. I am confident that they will survive it. Trump probably will not.

[Mr.Bill]

3. Joe is at his best

when he is pissed off. Bring it on.

[MerryBlooms]

25. I completely agree! Biden pissed off and on the attack against this bullshit is the way to go.

He's always been a scrapper and I think that's exactly what we need right now!

[evertonfc]

4. Trump

needs someone who will punch back. Joe will. Trump needs so.one who will question his stamina, physical prowess and toughness. Lame and childish- yes but effective against bullies. He needs to be called a racist to his face too.

[handmade34]

27. ...

https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/how-to-take-down-a-cult-leader/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3239&recip_id=20001&list_id=2

...Cult leaders are one-trick phonies: Never apologize, always out-accuse, get as far as you can and don’t get cut...So how do you cut them?
By exposing their one-trick: Never apologize, always accuse. Pretend to be infallible and thus become incorrigible.
How would they respond? More of the same, since it’s all they know. Their responses will confirm your accusation, so don’t let up; don’t get distracted. Control the debate and keep it focused on their one trick.
Of course, they won’t back down. They’ll just deny, deflect, never apologize, always accuse, saying in so many words, “no, you’re the one who never apologizes and always accuses.” To which you respond “there he goes again.” Over and over, never following their lead into the weeds and distractions...

[onecaliberal]

28. "Not the puppet, not the puppet, you're the puppet."

[Beartracks]

31. This. Good post. Good link. n/t

[brush]

5. Hunter Biden is not running, and Jr., Ivanka and Kushner are not exactly corruption free.

See RNC buying up Jr's book, all of them traveling on taxpayer dime around the world on private business, Ivanka securing multiple trademarks in China, Kushner securing money to bail out of his debt on 666 5th Ave., not to mention Kushner supplying MBS with a "enemies" list from our intel agencies which led to journalist Khashoggi's butchering.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. And I suggest if people want to "worry" about something, especially in this case something

they can NOT change NO MATTER what they do, that they worry about a murderous dictator shutting down our power grid on election day, thus killing the internet and the counting of votes.

At least that is something one could write to their representative about and ask they protect us from Putin. Even though the OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE GOP is NOT to protect us.

[brush]

29. I wouldn't put it past trump/putin to try that if it looks like the orange a-hole...

is losing—then blame it on Ukraine no less.

[stopdiggin]

6. after the misfortunes the family has suffered

do you think sneering cries of "crackhead" will garner a lot of traction, or approval, in the public? Or just further illustrate the gulf between stark choices our country is faced with here?

hope this serves to ease your concern to some degree.

[mainstreetonce]

7. I know

I heard Joe say "we have been through worse"which was the perfect thing to say,but Trump can make things so ugly.
I especially hope it is not allowed if Trump actually shows up at a debate

[stopdiggin]

13. Trump (if he participates) will not behave like that at a debate

where there are moderators and real pushback. And .. were he to be so foolish, there would be an immediate price. That kind of stuff happens at his rallies .. where no one else has the microphone .. and no one in the audience is crying "shame." Trump doesn't do well when there are real people in the room .. getting back in his face. (remember Nancy Pelosi?)

[oldsoftie]

8. Any time Hunter is brought up, Trumps kids need to be brought into it.

Except Barron, who is too young to be a part of the crime family yet.
Bring up Jr's divorce, Jareds Saudi loans, Ivanka's Chinese workers, etc.
And dont forget Trumps 5 time draft dodging & cheating.

[Dennis Donovan]

9. fail...

[bucolic_frolic]

10. Bone spurs' medical records and tax returns come to mind

Trump plays this game where he's lilly white. Don't let him get away with it.

[beachbumbob]

11. Biden will take no crap from trump on any debate stage, trump gets away with being a bully

as he is rarely called out face to face. All Biden has to say is "Stormy"....

[Iggo]

12. Well that's it. Hunter Biden has lost my vote!

[NYMinute]

14. Joe and Hunter can handle it

When Joe gets the nom, there will be heavyweights campaigning for him -- like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

All the sane people free of koolaid have already realized that Trump was trying to smear Biden by manufacturing something.

Then, Hunter is not running for POTUS so who cares?

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. Jesus H. Christ.

[LAS14]

17. Yes, I think the left has got to think hard and creatively....

... about how to combat "swift boat/e-mail" attacks.

A non-negotiable is that the candidate must not be shaken by them. This does not mean the candidate must not react emotionally. Maybe Biden's type of "liar" response will work. Goodness knows Kerry's ignore it and Hillary's humor didn't do the job.

But beyond that, we have to get smart. I, too, dread the senate trial. As CNN's "All the President's Lies" pointed out, merely repeating a lie enough times, even in the service of debunking it, gives it credibility.

You can't just not answer questions. So I have an idea:

On the relevant web site (maybe more than one if we're talking post-primary - candidate's, DNC's, etc.) you post an very detailed answer to every possible question. Then, in language crafted by people more talented than I, you respond to a question by saying that you don't want to give credibility to lies by spending time on them. You don't want the lies to take over this speech (or whatever). Please go to xxxxxx.org to get your answers.

That single news source would be kept up to date to address every conceivable attack.

What do you think?

[VarryOn]

22. If Biden gets the nomination...

(and with each day, I'm more convinced he probably will be), his age (mental acuity) and son will be popular points of attack against him. I'm concerned about Hunter, too. Certainly, it's not fair, but I hope Joe has smart people working on effective responses other than "Come on, man!" when asked.

Hopefully, all the bad stuff is out there. Since he'sa potential weak spot for Joe, rest assured the media will be digging hard to find more dirt.

[cwydro]

18. "Send Hunter to his drugs?"

Odd turn of phrase.

[jrandom421]

19. AS I mentioned before

Trump and the Republicans going after Hunter Biden is a line they will regret crossing.

This is going after Joe's family and making the contest personal. The wrong thing to do against someone like Joe. By going after his surviving son, Trump and the Republicans will turn Joe from a sharply spoken candidate into a protective enraged father who will go all out to protect his family. Definitely not someone that any sane person wants to face. Not only will Joe vigorously defend Hunter, he'll focus all his rage on Trump and the Republicans who aid him. This is going to fuel Joe's drive to dismantle everything Trump, and he's not going to stop until Trump is lying in the ditch, begging for the mercy he'll never get from Joe. Just the full measure of justice, both legal and Karmic

"He's the bully that I knew my whole life. He's the bully that I've always stood up to. He's the bully that used to make fun when I was a kid that I stutter, and I'd smack him in the mouth,"

[Hortensis]

20. Yeah, those who post Trujmp-serving "concerns" are irritating, but oh well.

We have to keep our eyes on the prize in spite of a blizzard of concern messages from democracy's many enemies.

Save our democracy. Spit in their faces.

[Blue_true]

21. All that I can say to you is look at what Don Corleone told his moviestar godchild when the godchild

came to him about being passed over for a part.

[MerryBlooms]

24. I totally get your concern...

I hear it in every day talk with fellow Dems. Everyone I know IS CONCERNED. The 'your concerned is noted', dismissive replies bother me. I know way too many people who have had their benefits cut this year and are scared to death of losing more in food assistance. We're in this fight for saving lives, damn right we're 'concerned'. There is an uneasiness among my Democratic friends and genuine fear.

I get where you're coming from.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. Not to worry... Bernie will whoop tRump's rump!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Baked Potato]

34. My sword is starting to glow reddish

Weird vibrations.

[cwydro]

35. Oh my.

[Baked Potato]

36. Yep...